It's time to finally kill the assault weapon myth

[miles]

The shooter had an AR-15, not a machine gun. An AR15 fires one round when the trigger is pulled, just like a revolver, a semi-automatic pistol, a shotgun, and hunting rifles. Some states prohibit high capacity magazines, which accomplishes absolutely nothing. Bad guys will just buy more low capacity magazines if they're crazy like the Orlando asshole.

Politicians and the media are deceiving the public. Again

 

[nerfhearder]

Miles isn't being totally stupid about something. Did Medicaid finally pay for his meds?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Good luck, the retards are out there eating that myth up like hotcakes.

 

[Disgustipated]

The shooter had an AR-15, not a machine gun. An AR15 fires one round when the trigger is pulled, just like a revolver, a semi-automatic pistol, a shotgun, hunting rifles, and shotguns. Some states prohibit high capacity magazines, which accomplishes absolutely nothing. Bad guys will just buy more low capacity magazines if they're crazy like the Orlando asshole.

Politicians and the media are deceiving the public. Again

AR-15's were used in all the last major (nationally) mass murders of innocent people.
How about we have THAT discussion.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The shooter had an AR-15, not a machine gun. An AR15 fires one round when the trigger is pulled, just like a revolver, a semi-automatic pistol, a shotgun, and hunting rifles. Some states prohibit high capacity magazines, which accomplishes absolutely nothing. Bad guys will just buy more low capacity magazines if they're crazy like the Orlando asshole.

Politicians and the media are deceiving the public. Again

Do you lock your car doors?

 

[nerfhearder]

AR-15's were used in all the last major (nationally) mass murders of innocent people.
How about we have THAT discussion.

Actually a discussion on that might make sense because there must be a reason. It's not that the AR is more lethal though because it's just not. No difference between it and a .223 hunting rifle except some fancy extras that don't change how it works.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

My latest build.

Hopefully we have some BS gun legislation get thrown up so prices will sky rocket and I can sell at a premium.

The build another. Because Building is half the fun!!!

( S&W, 3x flip up, Eotech Red dot, Mag pull trigger, rails, flip up Irons, and hand guard)

 

[Disgustipated]

Actually a discussion on that might make sense because there must be a reason. It's not that the AR is more lethal though because it's just not. No difference between it and a .223 hunting rifle except some fancy extras that don't change how it works.

Agreed.

My latest build.

Hopefully we have some BS gun legislation get thrown up so prices will sky rocket and I can sell at a premium.

The build another. Because Building is half the fun!!!

( S&W, 3x flip up, Eotech Red dot, Mag pull trigger, rails, flip up Irons, and hand guard)

Short, useless and stubby. Just like the owner.

 

[Sean]

My latest build.

Hopefully we have some BS gun legislation get thrown up so prices will sky rocket and I can sell at a premium.

The build another. Because Building is half the fun!!!

( S&W, 3x flip up, Eotech Red dot, Mag pull trigger, rails, flip up Irons, and hand guard)

Does that let you feel like a real man?

 

[BotanyBoy]

AR-15's were used in all the last major (nationally) mass murders of innocent people.
How about we have THAT discussion.

What about it?

That doesn't make it anything other than common.

It doesn't make it special or some separate class of weapon, that's just (D) smokescreens for the people who don't know shit about guns and are fooled by the label 'assault weapon'.


This....is a 'hunting rifle' that fires the same bullets as an AR15 just as fast.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2015/11/Shootingtimesministandard-final.jpg

It packs the exact same fire power as an AR. Nobody cares.

You put some scary looking military accessories on the EXACT same gun, it's an illegal 'assault weapon'.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/files/2015/11/ShootingTimesminitactical-final.jpg

That is how fucking stupid 'assault weapon' and the idea of banning them is.

It didn't do shit before because they just change the design and give it a new number and it's legal again making 'assault weapons ban' really a 'scary looking accessories in particular combinations' ban. It's a feel good bullshit move for the derps.

We need to talk about some other real changes (hard) that one way or another might curb these things from happening. Otherwise any of these 'too simple to be true' reactionary shit that might go down in DC as a result of some nut case will just be emotional masturbation.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

I remember after the Sandyhook tragedy, Obama started talking about new gun legislation. Gun stores then sold more AR-like semi-automatic rifles in a month than the entire previous year.

 

[miles]

My latest build.

Hopefully we have some BS gun legislation get thrown up so prices will sky rocket and I can sell at a premium.

The build another. Because Building is half the fun!!!

( S&W, 3x flip up, Eotech Red dot, Mag pull trigger, rails, flip up Irons, and hand guard)

Demand for guns and ammo have skyrocketed the past several years. What the 2nd Amendment deniers hate most is giving them undeniable facts about gun ownership in the U.S....not the least of which is murders with guns have declined while purchases have skyrocketed. It destroys their "too many guns" narrative. Facts totally piss them off.

 

[miles]

I remember after the Sandyhook tragedy, Obama started talking about new gun legislation. Gun stores then sold more AR-like semi-automatic rifles in a month than the entire previous year.

Yep. There will probably be another sales surge after his stewpid remarks yesterday about gun control. It was more of the same lies and rope-a-dope we've been hearing from the ass clown for eight years.

 

[leashedbottom]

AR-15's were used in all the last major (nationally) mass murders of innocent people.
How about we have THAT discussion.

i never thought this was where i would be having this conversation, but sure, lets talk about it...

i am not a 'gun nut' but i do own a registered handgun and have a CCW, and have taken a number of classes, including Urban Defensive Combat.

You are probably going to tell us about how an AR-15 is capable of mass shooting because of round capacities and firepower and being designated an assault weapon... but it is used more because of the stigma around it, the misconceptions the media gives and a lack of knowledge what it is. Any semi-automatic gun can be fired just as fast as you can pull the trigger, but is still only one shot at a time. i can put a shot where i want, even on the move or with a moving target, because of controlled firing training. With three or more magazines i can fire and reload and fire again in what is still very fast rate.

my Sig Sauer .40 S&W handgun had more power than an AR15, can blow a hole in a target much larger. It may not have the range but still...

the reason the AR15 gets used it because it looks military, looks cooler and more menacing, the same reason why many of the mass shooters dress in cammo, trench coats and the such... for the cool image.

If someone had been armed in that Orlando club the body count would have been much less than it was.. and don't tell me that he or she might have hit someone else... when bullets are flying and people are dying do you really believe that no one should at least try? If you are then you believe it is better for more to die than it is to fight back. Cops don't stop the crime, they show up after it has been commited.

Banning guns won't work... if someone can get across the border they can surely do it with a gun or guns... all banning does is take away the protection against the criminal not stop the crime...

And the fact it was a Gay club, and that the shooter was iutraged at two men kissing i will keep my gun close at hand

 

[JackLuis]

Perhaps now is the time to discuss weather it is time to round up the Nuts. This guy has been reported as saying he wants to kill faggots and queers, but he still got certified to carry. The fact that he was Muslim is pretty much irrelevant but he was a nut and Florida still let him carry.

Maybe if we passed a law that people who say they want to kill people need to be 're-educated' and sent to reorientation classes, for four years, or how ever long it takes before they learn to tolerate people who are different?

Maybe it's time to decide that antisocial behavior is worth some time in a re-socialization institute?

 

[nerfhearder]

Perhaps now is the time to discuss weather it is time to round up the Nuts. This guy has been reported as saying he wants to kill faggots and queers, but he still got certified to carry. The fact that he was Muslim is pretty much irrelevant but he was a nut and Florida still let him carry.

Maybe if we passed a law that people who say they want to kill people need to be 're-educated' and sent to reorientation classes, for four years, or how ever long it takes before they learn to tolerate people who are different?

Maybe it's time to decide that antisocial behavior is worth some time in a re-socialization institute?

We dont need that stupid free speech thing anyway, right?

 

[JackLuis]

We dont need that stupid free speech thing anyway, right?

Not when you use it to threaten people. I'm not advocating arresting Trump for his stupid shit, but maybe the Imam who wants to kill gays should be.

 

[stickygirl]

If someone had been armed in that Orlando club the body count would have been much less than it was.. and don't tell me that he or she might have hit someone else... when bullets are flying and people are dying do you really believe that no one should at least try? If you are then you believe it is better for more to die than it is to fight back. Cops don't stop the crime, they show up after it has been commited.

An off-duty officer working for the nightclub responded and engaged in a gun battle with the gunman near one of the entrances.
You mean a policeman or someone could have done something?

 

[BotanyBoy]

my Sig Sauer .40 S&W handgun had more power than an AR15, can blow a hole in a target much larger. It may not have the range but still...

LOL you're so full of fucking shit, your .40S&W isn't anywhere close to the kinetic energy or the capacity of a .223

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/223rifle.html


http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/40sw.html

And unless you're talking steel core penetration rounds on a flesh shot the 40 ain't blowing a hole any bigger.

Velocity > caliber.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Most murders are done by niggers, unowned by anyone last time I checked.

 

[Disgustipated]

Demand for guns and ammo have skyrocketed the past several years. What the 2nd Amendment deniers hate most is giving them undeniable facts about gun ownership in the U.S....not the least of which is murders with guns have declined while purchases have skyrocketed. It destroys their "too many guns" narrative. Facts totally piss them off.

Purchases skyrocketed because the same morons are buying more guns. NOT because more people are buying guns.

Like most threads you start, you know fuck-all about the content.

 

[knottygirl]

Here's a very informative slideshow about assault weapons:

http://www.assaultweapon.info/

The Republicans should offer to reinstate the pointless "assault weapon" ban, but package this bill with another bill making it illegal to restrict guns in a location unless strong measures are taken to actually enforce the restriction.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

i never thought this was where i would be having this conversation, but sure, lets talk about it...

i am not a 'gun nut' but i do own a registered handgun and have a CCW, and have taken a number of classes, including Urban Defensive Combat.

You are probably going to tell us about how an AR-15 is capable of mass shooting because of round capacities and firepower and being designated an assault weapon... but it is used more because of the stigma around it, the misconceptions the media gives and a lack of knowledge what it is. Any semi-automatic gun can be fired just as fast as you can pull the trigger, but is still only one shot at a time. i can put a shot where i want, even on the move or with a moving target, because of controlled firing training. With three or more magazines i can fire and reload and fire again in what is still very fast rate.

my Sig Sauer .40 S&W handgun had more power than an AR15, can blow a hole in a target much larger. It may not have the range but still...

the reason the AR15 gets used it because it looks military, looks cooler and more menacing, the same reason why many of the mass shooters dress in cammo, trench coats and the such... for the cool image.

If someone had been armed in that Orlando club the body count would have been much less than it was.. and don't tell me that he or she might have hit someone else... when bullets are flying and people are dying do you really believe that no one should at least try? If you are then you believe it is better for more to die than it is to fight back. Cops don't stop the crime, they show up after it has been commited.

Banning guns won't work... if someone can get across the border they can surely do it with a gun or guns... all banning does is take away the protection against the criminal not stop the crime...

And the fact it was a Gay club, and that the shooter was iutraged at two men kissing i will keep my gun close at hand

Thankfully if/when you do you'll hopefully face the legal consequences for doing so.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Here's a very informative slideshow about assault weapons:

http://www.assaultweapon.info/

The Republicans should offer to reinstate the pointless "assault weapon" ban, but package this bill with another bill making it illegal to restrict guns in a location unless strong measures are taken to actually enforce the restriction.

Yeah, we don't need that pesky Constitution.

 

[Ishmael]

My latest build.

Hopefully we have some BS gun legislation get thrown up so prices will sky rocket and I can sell at a premium.

The build another. Because Building is half the fun!!!

( S&W, 3x flip up, Eotech Red dot, Mag pull trigger, rails, flip up Irons, and hand guard)

Speaking of which the Air Force PJ's just got done with their quarterly live fire exercises. So I've got close to 40lbs of once fired 5.56 brass sitting in some ammo cans. I also picked up a bunch of stripper clips and some bandoliers. I'm going to decap the brass and run it though the tumbler and it'll be ready to reload.

I also picked up ~20lbs of once fired 9mm as well, but I plan on using that as trading mat. for .45ACP.

Ishmael