it's official (not like we didn't already know): the unvaxxed are responsible for passing on more covid to the vaxxed

[dmonty]

medically unable to wear...

no ears?
a snowflake with a mask phobia?

Asthma, anyone with breathing issues/disorders should not be wearing a mask.

 

[Dribble]

Stop trying to convince the ignorant. It is not healthy to society as a whole. Let them die. Let them get sick and suffer the financial consequences. Let them infect those that associate with them. If you are stupid enough to associate with retards....that's on you. Time to let Darwin do its thing. The only good Republican is a dead Republican and we don't have to do anything....they kill themselves at a 3 to 1 rate.

 

[butters]

If one has no symptoms, can't actually have it either. as with any disease you must have it and be symptomatic to be "sick"

this is simply incorrect. you really need to get your medical information from better sources. not only can asymptomatic people spread the virus (though their viral loads may be smaller than symptomatic vectors), pre-symptomatic people also are responsible for spreading it. In the cases where many had only minor symptoms, they may well have not even realised they had covid and mistook it for allergies or a cold and so went about their daily business. If unmasked and not observing social distancing/hygiene advice, they definitely spread it to others.

https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-asymptomatic-covid

Estimates on the occurrence of asymptomatic COVID-19 vary between studies. The differences are based on how the studies were designed and the population that was examined.

In a 2021 research review, experts found that the prevalence of asymptomatic COVID-19 among people with a confirmed COVID-19 infection was 40.5 percentTrusted Source.

The experts found that studies in Asia reported the lowest percentage of asymptomatic people, possibly due to the city-wide screening programs in China.

Children with COVID-19 may be more likely to be asymptomatic than adults, with some studiesTrusted Source estimating that as many as half of all children who develop COVID-19 don’t develop symptoms.

A 2021 studyTrusted Source found that children and young adults have a low chance of developing fever or respiratory symptoms with COVID-19, but people who don’t have these symptoms can still pass the coronavirus to others.

https://www.vumc.org/coronavirus/la...vid-19-be-spread-persons-who-are-asymptomatic

 

[sweepthefloor]

Asthma, anyone with breathing issues/disorders should not be wearing a mask.

anyone "with" asthma or any problem affecting respiratory mechanics should be doing everything to protect themselves against serious viral infection. the methods of oxygenating sick lungs is not comfortable.

 

[butters]

asthma and covid masks

https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/tr...w/should-i-wear-a-face-mask-or-face-covering/​

Most people with asthma can manage to wear a face covering if they need to​

Health advice > Asthma triggers > Coronavirus (COVID-19) > What should people with asthma do now?
Get information and advice on face masks for people with asthma.

On this page​

• What are the rules on wearing face masks?
• Are people with asthma exempt from wearing a face mask?
• What type of face mask should I wear?
• I'm worried about other people not wearing face masks

​

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/asthma.html​

People with Moderate to Severe Asthma​

Updated Apr. 7, 2021
Languages
Print
This information is based on what we currently know about the spread and severity of COVID-19.

Risk of severe illness from COVID-19​

People with moderate-to-severe or uncontrolled asthma are more likely to be hospitalized from COVID-19. Take steps to protect yourself.

Protect yourself from COVID-19​

• Get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as you can. Find a vaccine.
• Wear a mask that covers your nose and mouth to help protect yourself and others.
• Stay 6 feet apart from others who don’t live with you.
• Avoid crowds and poorly ventilated indoor spaces.
• Test to prevent spread to others.
• Wash your hands often with soap and water. Use hand sanitizer if soap and water aren’t available.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Have you had your 12th booster this week?

The vaccine is issued with a two dose regiment, 14 days or so apart. Since then Heath Canada has advised on a 6 month booster, and added in another booster for those over 70....a far cry from twelve booster....it is no wonder why the words idiot, and histrionic always come to mind when you post.

 

[dmonty]

Completely untrue.

except... that every single Health Deaprtment has always recommend against masks for Asthmatics.

NY State DOH website for guidance on the wearing of masks:

Publication 7224, revised October 2009. https://health.ny.gov/publications/7224/

Suffolk County DOH website for guidance on the Wearing of masks:

https://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/Departments/Health-Services/Health-Bulletins/Novel-Coronavirus

CDC Guidance:

• https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/guidance-business-response.html
• https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...ng/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact

American with Disabilities Act, Section 504, Title III: Public Accommodations:

• https://www.ada.gov/ada_title_III.h...n,care facilities, recreation facilities, and
• In 2008, the ADA was changed to include more people in the definition of “disabled.” Conditions that only show symptoms at certain times are now included. Asthma and allergies fit this definition. The ADA protects people with asthma and allergies even if reactions or attacks happen only when triggered.
• Also, use of medical aids or devices can no longer exclude them from ADA coverage. For example, it used to be that people with asthma who got relief from an inhaler were not covered by the ADA. The inhaler was thought to have removed the disability. With the 2008 changes, the ADA covers people with asthma and allergies even if medication controls their symptoms.
• Organizations and businesses can be fined up to $75,000 for the 1st ADA violation and $150,000 for any subsequent violation(s).

NY Attorney General’s Office:

• Prohibited disability discrimination includes not only intentional prejudice based on disability, but also actions or inactions that operate to deny people with disabilities equal access to the same services, opportunities and benefits that are available to people without disabilities.
• https://ag.ny.gov/civil-rights/disability-rights

NY State Executive Order 202.16, 202.17, 202.18 & 202.34 and the NY State DOH & Governor’s Office guidance:

All provide the exemption for the medically unable:

Individuals are required to wear a face covering in the abovementioned situations and settings, provided that they are older than two (2) years of age and able to medically tolerate a covering. If a face covering would inhibit or otherwise impair an individual’s health or if an individual is not older than two (2) years of age, an individual is not required to wear or use such a covering. Further, essential business operators and enforcement authorities are prohibited from requesting or requiring medical or other documentation from an individual who declines to wear a face covering due to a medical or other health condition that prevents such usage

 

[dmonty]

this is simply incorrect. you really need to get your medical information from better sources. not only can asymptomatic people spread the virus (though their viral loads may be smaller than symptomatic vectors), pre-symptomatic people also are responsible for spreading it. In the cases where many had only minor symptoms, they may well have not even realised they had covid and mistook it for allergies or a cold and so went about their daily business. If unmasked and not observing social distancing/hygiene advice, they definitely spread it to others.

https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-asymptomatic-covid


https://www.vumc.org/coronavirus/la...vid-19-be-spread-persons-who-are-asymptomatic

These studies actually identified and confirmed that pre-symptomatic spread occurs albeit in very low rates, not asymptomatic - which still has not a single documented case. Other studies have relied upon a "meta-study", whcih is they just looked at someone else's work and made some assumptions, but didn't test it themselves.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...)00059-4/fulltext#:~:text=After 11 weeks,[5]].

 

[Dribble]

These studies actually identified and confirmed that pre-symptomatic spread occurs albeit in very low rates, not asymptomatic - which still has not a single documented case. Other studies have relied upon a "meta-study", whcih is they just looked at someone else's work and made some assumptions, but didn't test it themselves.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...)00059-4/fulltext#:~:text=After 11 weeks,[5]].

Lol....you are gonna make your assumptions on a report written early in the pandemic BASED ON WHAT THE CHINESE REPORTED? OK.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Stop trying to convince the ignorant. It is not healthy to society as a whole. Let them die.

See covid doesn't work like that though.

"ignorance" as a form of partisanship, doesn't matter to covid, that's not who dies.

Fat unhealthy people is who will die.... vax or not.....NOT how right one one is, seems to be a key factor in how bad covid will fuck you up.

Which directly shit's on another primary lie from leftist..... HEALTHY AT ANY SIZE!!! Obesity is sexy!!! Anyone who disagrees is a white supremacist!! Especially those god damn medical doctors who never shut up about "healthy" weight.... what do they know? Progress is here!!

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

The vaccine is issued with a two dose regiment, 14 days or so apart. Since then Heath Canada has advised on a 6 month booster, and added in another booster for those over 70....

Ohhh Health Canada eh? LOL I don't care.

a far cry from twelve booster..

Not really.

All my other vaccines last years and those thing WORK, unlike the cofeee fee bullshit.

..it is no wonder why the words idiot, and histrionic always come to mind when you post.

Just holding a mirror up.

I'm not the one freaking out to try and force others to get a non-effective vaccine for healthy people to avoid a disease that kills fat ass's.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Lol....you are gonna make your assumptions on a report written early in the pandemic BASED ON WHAT THE CHINESE REPORTED? OK.

Probably more reliable than what Pfizer's pushers over at the CDC/WHO is putting out.

 

[RobDownSouth]

BoBo seems to be having trouble today grasping the concept of comorbidity.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

BoBo seems to be having trouble today grasping the concept of comorbidity.

Not at all.

That's why I know not being a fat ass is the KEY to not getting killed by CO-fee fee...... not a semi-kinda effective sometimes vaccine.

Geting up at 3am to go bust a Ranger nut via PT every morning is what keeps me healthy and cranking out babies with the super Jew.

Not uncle Joe and his buddies in big pharama.

PT!!! PT!!! GOOD FOR YOU!!!

PT!!! PT!!! GOOD FOR ME!!!!

iIIIIII LOVE PEEEE TEEE!!!!

 

[ll74]

Penis torture doesnt do any of those things

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Penis torture doesnt do any of those things

Who said anything about penis torture??

 

[ll74]

Who said anything about penis torture??

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

What a sick-o

No wonder bans against abusing kids in public schools had you so upset.

 

[butters]

except... that every single Health Deaprtment has always recommend against masks for Asthmatics.

NY State DOH website for guidance on the wearing of masks:

Publication 7224, revised October 2009. https://health.ny.gov/publications/7224/

Suffolk County DOH website for guidance on the Wearing of masks:

https://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/Departments/Health-Services/Health-Bulletins/Novel-Coronavirus

CDC Guidance:

• https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/guidance-business-response.html
• https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...ng/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact

American with Disabilities Act, Section 504, Title III: Public Accommodations:

• https://www.ada.gov/ada_title_III.htm#:~:text=Title III prohibits discrimination on,care facilities, recreation facilities, and
• In 2008, the ADA was changed to include more people in the definition of “disabled.” Conditions that only show symptoms at certain times are now included. Asthma and allergies fit this definition. The ADA protects people with asthma and allergies even if reactions or attacks happen only when triggered.
• Also, use of medical aids or devices can no longer exclude them from ADA coverage. For example, it used to be that people with asthma who got relief from an inhaler were not covered by the ADA. The inhaler was thought to have removed the disability. With the 2008 changes, the ADA covers people with asthma and allergies even if medication controls their symptoms.
• Organizations and businesses can be fined up to $75,000 for the 1st ADA violation and $150,000 for any subsequent violation(s).

NY Attorney General’s Office:

• Prohibited disability discrimination includes not only intentional prejudice based on disability, but also actions or inactions that operate to deny people with disabilities equal access to the same services, opportunities and benefits that are available to people without disabilities.
• https://ag.ny.gov/civil-rights/disability-rights

NY State Executive Order 202.16, 202.17, 202.18 & 202.34 and the NY State DOH & Governor’s Office guidance:

All provide the exemption for the medically unable:

Individuals are required to wear a face covering in the abovementioned situations and settings, provided that they are older than two (2) years of age and able to medically tolerate a covering. If a face covering would inhibit or otherwise impair an individual’s health or if an individual is not older than two (2) years of age, an individual is not required to wear or use such a covering. Further, essential business operators and enforcement authorities are prohibited from requesting or requiring medical or other documentation from an individual who declines to wear a face covering due to a medical or other health condition that prevents such usage

your cdc link... it states exactly the quote i already posted about asthma suferers and wearing protective masks.

so, repeating myself, here's a quote FROM the site (you maybe should have looked up 'asthma sufferers and covid' before declaring NO site blah blah blah)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/asthma.html

People with Moderate to Severe Asthma​

Updated Apr. 7, 2021
Languages
Print
This information is based on what we currently know about the spread and severity of COVID-19.

Risk of severe illness from COVID-19​

People with moderate-to-severe or uncontrolled asthma are more likely to be hospitalized from COVID-19. Take steps to protect yourself.

Protect yourself from COVID-19​

• Get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as you can. Find a vaccine.
• Wear a mask that covers your nose and mouth to help protect yourself and others.
• Stay 6 feet apart from others who don’t live with you.
• Avoid crowds and poorly ventilated indoor spaces.
• Test to prevent spread to others.
• Wash your hands often with soap and water. Use hand sanitizer if soap and water aren’t available.

can you see it now? srsly, people.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

BoBo seems to be having trouble today grasping the concept of comorbidity.

heh.

I remember during the beginning of the pandemic, when it was just a bi-coastal problem, that was Yappo's fave new learned word to continuously toss out in order to make himself sound smarter than anyone else about it.

Then Arizona got bit and the yappin' started a-slowin' down.

ahhh...good times, good times.

 

[dmonty]

Lol....you are gonna make your assumptions on a report written early

and yet you're unable to find any report, research or clinical study that refutes the well documented study (from China or not makes no difference).. I make no assumptions, I read the report and the methodology was clearly indicated.

However, remember the only "report" to indicate Asymptomatic spread (Jan 2020) was not only found to be fraudulent and discredited by Feb 2020, but that the NY Governor specifically cited this report as his only source to initiate his unconstitutional lockdowns to purposefully collapse the economy. So yes I do read the studies and research and can use my critical thinking skills to make informed decisions - something that the Branch Covidians under the American Cult leader masquerading as a doctor, Fauci seem unable to do.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...dy-coronavirus-carrier-no-symptoms-was-flawed
https://www.science.org/content/article/paper-non-symptomatic-patient-transmitting-coronavirus-wrong

Lets also not forget that the Cruise Ship Industry, had many of their boats refused to be docked and allow passengers to disembark, because of fears of the 1-3 passengers/crew with COVID-19 would spread like wildfire - and yet without any PPE onboard symptomatic didn't even spread, and again no asymptomatic spread identified.

or all the "Official" fake models scam that made COVID-19 appear to a true epidemic, I also was calling these out back in Jan/Feb 2020 as being extremely inaccurate and faked data modeling...Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College in London, who purposefully manufactured fake data and bad models to create a fear-porn environment. His models were discredited within 24 hours, yet for some reason every newspaper and government in the world still thought they were the Bible, its a shame that he was never held accountable for his actions and they allowed him to "retire" in May 2020

So yeah, I'll read everything - but won't rely on the experts who have failed every step of the way proving they aren't the subject matter experts that cosplay at.

 

[dmonty]

your cdc link... it states exactly the quote i already posted about asthma suferers and wearing protective masks.

so, repeating myself, here's a quote FROM the site (you maybe should have looked up 'asthma sufferers and covid' before declaring NO site blah blah blah)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/asthma.html

People with Moderate to Severe Asthma​

Updated Apr. 7, 2021
Languages
Print
This information is based on what we currently know about the spread and severity of COVID-19.

Risk of severe illness from COVID-19​

People with moderate-to-severe or uncontrolled asthma are more likely to be hospitalized from COVID-19. Take steps to protect yourself.

Protect yourself from COVID-19​

• Get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as you can. Find a vaccine.
• Wear a mask that covers your nose and mouth to help protect yourself and others.
• Stay 6 feet apart from others who don’t live with you.
• Avoid crowds and poorly ventilated indoor spaces.
• Test to prevent spread to others.
• Wash your hands often with soap and water. Use hand sanitizer if soap and water aren’t available.

can you see it now? srsly, people.

Update April 2021 - hahahahaha, when the Asthmatics (who have been told for multiple decades to not wear a mask)... they "updated" their website so that their propaganda no longer confilcted. look at what was actual there about Masks, from 2000-2021.

This was a political science change, not because the physical science changed

 

[Dribble]

See covid doesn't work like that though.

"ignorance" as a form of partisanship, doesn't matter to covid, that's not who dies.

Fat unhealthy people is who will die.... vax or not.....NOT how right one one is, seems to be a key factor in how bad covid will fuck you up.

Which directly shit's on another primary lie from leftist..... HEALTHY AT ANY SIZE!!! Obesity is sexy!!! Anyone who disagrees is a white supremacist!! Especially those god damn medical doctors who never shut up about "healthy" weight.... what do they know? Progress is here!!

Too bad the data doesn't back that up....and why I say fuck trying to save those that don't want saved. Let them get sick at a higher rate than those that got vaccinated. Let them pay higher insurance rates than those that got vaccinated. Let them die at a higher rate. Freedom of choice baby.

 

[Dribble]

and yet you're unable to find any report, research or clinical study that refutes the well documented study (from China or not makes no difference).. I make no assumptions, I read the report and the methodology was clearly indicated.

However, remember the only "report" to indicate Asymptomatic spread (Jan 2020) was not only found to be fraudulent and discredited by Feb 2020, but that the NY Governor specifically cited this report as his only source to initiate his unconstitutional lockdowns to purposefully collapse the economy. So yes I do read the studies and research and can use my critical thinking skills to make informed decisions - something that the Branch Covidians under the American Cult leader masquerading as a doctor, Fauci seem unable to do.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...dy-coronavirus-carrier-no-symptoms-was-flawed
https://www.science.org/content/article/paper-non-symptomatic-patient-transmitting-coronavirus-wrong

Lets also not forget that the Cruise Ship Industry, had many of their boats refused to be docked and allow passengers to disembark, because of fears of the 1-3 passengers/crew with COVID-19 would spread like wildfire - and yet without any PPE onboard symptomatic didn't even spread, and again no asymptomatic spread identified.

or all the "Official" fake models scam that made COVID-19 appear to a true epidemic, I also was calling these out back in Jan/Feb 2020 as being extremely inaccurate and faked data modeling...Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College in London, who purposefully manufactured fake data and bad models to create a fear-porn environment. His models were discredited within 24 hours, yet for some reason every newspaper and government in the world still thought they were the Bible, its a shame that he was never held accountable for his actions and they allowed him to "retire" in May 2020

So yeah, I'll read everything - but won't rely on the experts who have failed every step of the way proving they aren't the subject matter experts that cosplay at.

Why should I prove anything that helps those I don't give a fuck about? The information is freely available to anyone following this virus. You do you. I do me. You stop pretending you know anything...I stop trying to show you are wrong. Win win. Darwin is a good thing

 

[butters]

the fu

Update April 2021 - hahahahaha, when the Asthmatics (who have been told for multiple decades to not wear a mask)... they "updated" their website so that their propaganda no longer confilcted. look at what was actual there about Masks, from 2000-2021

the fucking link and information i posted FROM the ASTHMATICS society earlier said asthmatics SHOULD wear masks

plus this you posted? from 2009, woefully out of date

NY State DOH website for guidance on the wearing of masks:

Publication 7224, revised October 2009. https://health.ny.gov/publications/7224/

guess you know better than them, the actual body responsible for giving information TO ASTHMATICS

you're too willfully ignorant on just about every topic for me to waste further text on. no-one can say i didn't try.