it's official (not like we didn't already know): the unvaxxed are responsible for passing on more covid to the vaxxed

[butters]

Canadian peer reviewed study; proof of what we've been telling the selfish bastards who refuse to get shots, refuse to mask up and still mingle with the socially responsible

Unvaccinated people threaten the safety of vaccinated people even with high levels of immunization against Covid-19, according to a new study published in Canadian Medical Association Journal (CMAJ), countering a popular narrative that vaccination is purely is a matter of individual choice and supporting policies requiring the shots.

The model simulated the spread of Covid-19 under a variety of different parameters and mixing between unvaccinated and vaccinated people, including vaccine effectiveness and uptake, baseline levels of immunity among the unvaccinated and the rate of recovery from infection.

The model revealed a “markedly higher” risk of infection in all scenarios where unvaccinated and vaccinated people mixed, even the ones where immunization rates were high.
The findings counter the common argument that the decision to get vaccinated is a personal one, the researchers said, as the unvaccinated are ”likely to affect the health and safety of vaccinated people in a manner disproportionate to the fraction of unvaccinated people in the population.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...pc=U531&cvid=2ef739c07c4a47e48d4f6faeea9e9f69

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

MMmmmm..... If the vaxx's worked the vaxed wouldn't be catching the Whu Flu

 

[GeorgeSoros]

Canadian peer reviewed study; proof of what we've been telling the selfish bastards who refuse to get shots, refuse to mask up and still mingle with the socially responsible




https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...pc=U531&cvid=2ef739c07c4a47e48d4f6faeea9e9f69

TimRapey resembles these remarks.

 

[ll74]

MMmmmm..... If the vaxx's worked the vaxed wouldn't be catching the Whu Flu

If the only singular purpose of a vaccine was preventing you from getting a disease and the only measurement was full.prevention, then you'd be correct. But it's not.

 

[Rotadom]

MMmmmm..... If the vaxx's worked the vaxed wouldn't be catching the Whu Flu

The COVID pandemic has created a moron epidemic.

 

[Dribble]

If a country ever wants to harm the US...the stupid have shown them how to do it. Congrats

 

[HisArpy]

MMmmmm..... If the vaxx's worked the vaxed wouldn't be catching the Whu Flu

Well, social distancing didn't work, masks didn't work, and lockdowns didn't work either.

Why would anyone believe that a vax that isn't a vax was going to work when all that other stuff didn't? Unless they're stupid.

And of course, when their stupidity is proven out, they immediately do what they've been doing, redefine well known and understood words so that those words mean something completely different now. And then use those newly redefined words to bootstrap their argument, while also moving the goalposts, so that they don't look quite as stupid to themselves as everyone else knows them to be.

 

[icanhelp1]

Well, social distancing didn't work, masks didn't work, and lockdowns didn't work either.

Why would anyone believe that a vax that isn't a vax was going to work when all that other stuff didn't? Unless they're stupid.

And of course, when their stupidity is proven out, they immediately do what they've been doing, redefine well known and understood words so that those words mean something completely different now. And then use those newly redefined words to bootstrap their argument, while also moving the goalposts, so that they don't look quite as stupid to themselves as everyone else knows them to be.

Peer reviewed by COMRADE Justin Trudeau LMFAO

 

[Dribble]

Hey....my local Farm and Fleet has a new shipment of Ivermectin. Now why would they put out that 20ft advertising banner? You sure would think they have better products to sell...lol

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

No need to look at actual data when you can build simulation models.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Well, social distancing didn't work, masks didn't work, and lockdowns didn't work either.

Why would anyone believe that a vax that isn't a vax was going to work when all that other stuff didn't? Unless they're stupid.

And of course, when their stupidity is proven out, they immediately do what they've been doing, redefine well known and understood words so that those words mean something completely different now. And then use those newly redefined words to bootstrap their argument, while also moving the goalposts, so that they don't look quite as stupid to themselves as everyone else knows them to be.

They all worked, RAPEY but ignorant science deniers like yourself who caught the virus due to stupidity infected smart people.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

The COVID pandemic has created a moron epidemic.

Yup, you're proof of that!!!

 

[icanhelp1]

MMmmmm..... If the vaxx's worked the vaxed wouldn't be catching the Whu Flu

Eventually everyone will get whu flu, vaxed or unvaxed. 3 out of 4 americans have already had one form or another. Natural immunity.

 

[Rotadom]

Yup, you're proof of that!!!

Props for using the correct "you're" for once.

 

[Chernosoth]

Covid news is winding down as Russia becomes the new boogeyman, but the jabbed are still dying.

are mRNA vaccines causing innate immune suppression?

 

[phrodeau]

Eventually everyone will get whu flu, vaxed or unvaxed. 3 out of 4 americans have already had one form or another. Natural immunity.

3 out of 1,000 Americans died from Covid19.

 

[butters]

Covid news is winding down as Russia becomes the new boogeyman, but the jabbed are still dying.

are mRNA vaccines causing innate immune suppression?

this paper is a strong set of hypotheses and pulls together a great many interesting threads of reasoning and evidence. it also starts to make it look like some of the pathways here are coming onto focus.

right, so not peer reviewed, nor accepted worldwide as of the article print

it also helps explain why so many people are having long lasting and serious side effects from mRNA, far in excess of covid.

how many ACTUALLY died from their jabs? how many actually died from fucking covid?

if it’s correct (and we MUST remember to say “IF” here because it’s early days and the data and debate is still emerging and the science is certainly not settled or validated) then a deeply worrying picture is emerging.

i want to be clear a second time that this is a preprint. it’s new data and has not yet been widely debated, picked at, and validated.

yes, let's be clear. not peer reviewed, not validated, not even looked at properly. yet you're posting it as if it "proves" the mrna vaccines are more dangerous to the public than catching covid.

 

[butters]

let's see: Stephanie Sennif:

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/reviews/stephanie-seneff-mit.html

Dr. Seneff received a B/S degree from MIT, at the undergraduate level. That pretty much explains why she is misleading the public about ALL her health claims. The Natural Health Perspective proclaims that an undergraduate degree in biochemistry would have been impressive, but biophysics and other B/S degrees most certainly are not.

Stephanie Seneff, herself, claims to be a Senior Research Scientist at MIT in the field of the computer science specializing in conversational language systems. Stephanie Seneff has fairly recently published to-date somewhere between 8 and 12 papers on health related topics. She has been claiming expertise on a wide range of topics: Alzheimer's disease, autism, brain trauma, Celiac disease / gluten intolerance, cholesterol sulfate, glyphosate / Roundup herbicide, and high-Carb diets among other topics.

Furthermore, she has not published a single genuine research study on any of her topics. All of her published papers can at best be described as speculative essays that do little more than repeat the usual arguments that are commonly being promoted on the Web. That is certainly a very wide range of topics to be covered in just eight published papers, don't you think? Claiming expertise on any one of them would be bad enough, but collectively on all of these areas makes Seneff's health claims little more than ludicrous, to say the least.

Now compare those 8 published papers of Dr. Seneff to the 118, 280, 296, 400, and 470 papers published respectively by some of the top vitamin D researchers that have been cited by the Natural Health Perspective.

wiki

Stephanie Seneff (born April 20, 1948)[1]: 249  is a senior research scientist at the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). Working primarily in the Spoken Language Systems group, her research at CSAIL relates to human-computer interaction, and algorithms for language understanding and speech recognition. In 2011, she began publishing controversial papers in low-impact, open access journals on biology and medical topics; the articles have received "heated objections from experts in almost every field she's delved into,"

 

[butters]

Greg Nigh:

Dr. Greg Nigh co-founded Immersion Health in 2014 with Maria Zilka, NTP. Dr. Nigh is a graduate of the National College of Natural Medicine, where he completed both the Naturopathic Doctor (ND) program and the Master of Science in Oriental Medicine (MSOM) program concurrently. Prior to studying naturopathic medicine, he attended the University of Notre Dame, where he received his Bachelor’s in English and then completed a Master of Humanities program at Arizona State University.

Prior to his work at Immersion Health, Dr. Nigh co-founded Nature Cures Clinic in 2001. It was during his early years of work there that he developed his interest and passion for researching and implementing alternative cancer therapies. It was also at Nature Cures Clinic that Dr. Nigh began collaboration with Maria Zilka, which spanned his last 5 years of work there.

Dr. Nigh is widely respected in the naturopathic profession. He has spoken several times at the annual convention of the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians on topics as diverse as naturopathic treatment of strokes, the use of hypnosis in clinical practice, and the use of energy medicine in the treatment of anxiety and depression. He has also spoken at the national conference of the Oncology Association of Naturopathic Physicians on cancer cell metabolism.

https://www.portlandnaturalhealth.net/dr-greg-nigh-nd-lac

 

[nicechat]

MMmmmm..... If the vaxx's worked the vaxed wouldn't be catching the Whu Flu

It is concerning that these beliefs exist.
Please, please, please ShyBiGuy954 consider researching this at reputable sites, some site that includes .gov. health anywhere in the world.

 

[Chernosoth]

yes, let's be clear. not peer reviewed, not validated, not even looked at properly. yet you're posting it as if it "proves" the mrna vaccines are more dangerous to the public than catching covid.

I posted a cautionary article, which looks like blasphemy to you because it doesn't praise the holy savior shots. Sources that are both official and impartial may not exist for years, since so much of the medical community is in cover their asses mode, to avoid lawsuits, criminal charges, angry mobs, etc.

 

[ll74]

I posted a cautionary article, which looks like blasphemy to you because it doesn't praise the holy savior shots. Sources that are both official and impartial may not exist for years, since so much of the medical community is in cover their asses mode, to avoid lawsuits, criminal charges, angry mobs, etc.

Yes, it's obvious you don't understand what peer reviewed means.

 

[butters]

I posted a cautionary article, which looks like blasphemy to you because it doesn't praise the holy savior shots. Sources that are both official and impartial may not exist for years, since so much of the medical community is in cover their asses mode, to avoid lawsuits, criminal charges, angry mobs, etc.

not so

if i'm unfamiliar with a source, i generally look it up.
a) when the sources show me the "experts" expounding on the topic have no background in it
b) at least one of the authors has been refuted over her publications by multiple doctors (50 something)
c) not peer-reviewed and pre-print

all of the above give me perfectly logical cause to be suspicious of 'evidence' or 'statements' in the article you posted. really very simple. plus i'm not religious, so save your 'holy saviour shots' bull; quit projecting stupid beliefs in the unproven... especially if it's linking to the invisible sky dude who loves lickle babies so much he does nothing to prevent them from abuse and starvation, poison from bad water and exploitation by greedy companies. ta.

 

[Chernosoth]

i'm not religious, so save your 'holy saviour shots' bull

You believe in progress, the dying religion of this civilization. As it dies, the believers get more shrill and desperate.

 

[butters]

You believe in progress, the dying religion of this civilization. As it dies, the believers get more shrill and desperate.