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MagicaPractica said:
If someone is offering to make you seventeen again so you can start over, don't believe them. :kiss:
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No, no and I wouldn't go back to 17 again for all the money in the world. 24, 25 yeah sure, but anything under 21 was just too hard of a time.

Unless I can be 17 but know everything I know at 40, but then that would be a whole other set of problems ;)
 
I wonder if our town's refusal to enact a noise ordinance that is enforceable by citation and punishable by fine without the complainants having to appear in court against the violator is because they just plain don't want to deal with the potential for lawsuits regarding such an ordinance.
 
Katyusha said:
I wonder if our town's refusal to enact a noise ordinance that is enforceable by citation and punishable by fine without the complainants having to appear in court against the violator is because they just plain don't want to deal with the potential for lawsuits regarding such an ordinance.
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That's why I'm Chairman of a Residents' Association. I can, and do, appear in court to represent my members without having to identify which members are the original complainants, as long as I can assure the judge, under oath, that I have members living close enough to be affected.

I get some unpleasantness but nothing compared to what the immediate neighbours would get. If the unpleasantness goes too far then the perpetrators have to justify WHY they were causing a nuisance outside my house. Then there is no doubt that it was deliberate and not one neighbour being unreasonable about slightly noisy activities.

I do have to tell some of my members, in polite euphemism, that they are unreasonable in their complaints. For example one member complained about the noise of next door's young children playing in their own garden. When he viewed the house before buying it the children were playing in the garden and the vendor told him that there were three children under five years old.

Another member complained about a neighbour's wedding reception held in the back garden. The bride's parents had told everyone around over a year beforehand with reminders three months and two weeks before. The immediate neighbours had arranged to go away to visit relations that weekend. The member complaining lived 100 yards away yet complained about the acoustic music that ended at 11 pm.

Most of the time I am dealing with unreasonable complainants instead of unreasonably noisy neighbours. However the unreasonably noisy can be unreasonably obnoxious as well and will not take notice of my representations and sometimes nothing except a court order. Unreasonable noise can be a symptom of total lack of consideration for anyone other than themselves.

Og
 
[size=+2]Hahahahahahaha . . .[/size]

I love it when a petty prick shoves his foot in his mouth. :p Almost painful to watch, but oh, so funny.
 
oggbashan said:
That's why I'm Chairman of a Residents' Association. I can, and do, appear in court to represent my members without having to identify which members are the original complainants, as long as I can assure the judge, under oath, that I have members living close enough to be affected.

I get some unpleasantness but nothing compared to what the immediate neighbours would get. If the unpleasantness goes too far then the perpetrators have to justify WHY they were causing a nuisance outside my house. Then there is no doubt that it was deliberate and not one neighbour being unreasonable about slightly noisy activities.

I do have to tell some of my members, in polite euphemism, that they are unreasonable in their complaints. For example one member complained about the noise of next door's young children playing in their own garden. When he viewed the house before buying it the children were playing in the garden and the vendor told him that there were three children under five years old.

Another member complained about a neighbour's wedding reception held in the back garden. The bride's parents had told everyone around over a year beforehand with reminders three months and two weeks before. The immediate neighbours had arranged to go away to visit relations that weekend. The member complaining lived 100 yards away yet complained about the acoustic music that ended at 11 pm.

Most of the time I am dealing with unreasonable complainants instead of unreasonably noisy neighbours. However the unreasonably noisy can be unreasonably obnoxious as well and will not take notice of my representations and sometimes nothing except a court order. Unreasonable noise can be a symptom of total lack of consideration for anyone other than themselves.

Og
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A lot of times complaints are unreasonable. I agree with that. We had people a couple of houses down that were always complaining about the kids next door playing soccer in the backyard. They weren't unreasonably loud, as in, they weren't screaming at each other from across the yard nonstop for hours on end, and it never went on past about 6pm. It also was only for a few hours in the afternoon, and not all day long.

In general, people in this neighborhood are pretty considerate when it comes to noise. This noise issue has only recently become an issue; my neighborhood backs up to a lot where the Public Works building was. That building was a very good sound buffer, but has since been torn down and the lot is now a parking lot. There are a couple of bars over there, about a thousand feet or so away, that play very loud music almost every night until about 3am and the Public Works building did a good job of blocking it. Without that buffer there now, the music is loud enough to keep a whole section of the neighborhood awake until all hours.

Village hall has told us repeatedly that the police can issue endless warnings, but if the bars want to turn the music back up after the officers are gone, there isn't much that can be done except to issue another warning when another complaint comes in. This is supposedly due to some court case regarding freedom of expression and prior restraint but nobody knows what case, or what year it took place in. If we want the bars actually sanctioned, each household has to sign a separate complaint and each of us has to appear in court at different times, as each signed complaint would be a separate case. The responding officers cannot appear in court with us for a noise complaint like they might be able to if other public nuisance charges went to court.

We can petition, we can write letters to everyone on the board, we can continue to voice our concerns at village hall meetings, and nothing can really be done without, for lack of a better phrase, a judge's approval. So my husband and I have recently contacted the state's attorney's office to see if we can find out which case(s) they might be thinking of when they tell us that nothing can be done. Or if there is even such a case. *sigh*
 
Oh geez! I did not realize my new shorts were short shorts. I think my ass is hanging out.:eek: oooo my sister will like this one:devil:
 
Nieghbors suck.
They sent children and youth to my house.
They want me to lose my kids and house.
Fuckers.
 
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