Is this justice?

[DeYaKen]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...tab-Tinder-boyfriend-avoid-jail-extraordinary

Just goes to show there is one law for the privileged and another for the rest of us.

This young woman stabbed a man, has two other assaults outstanding but the judge says no jail because she is an outstanding student. Maybe what he really meant was that she is from a good family.

 

[Lancecastor]

She's also fairly fuckable.

 

[Sean]

How is Princess Diana involved?

 

[jezzilee]

wasn't this discussed a while back on the GB? Is this the aspiring doctor case?

Talent in surgery goes a long way...maybe, just perhaps, she was practicing?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

wasn't this discussed a while back on the GB? Is this the aspiring doctor case?

Talent in surgery goes a long way...maybe, just perhaps, she was practicing?

Yes, the thread has been done before...


:shrug:

 

[jezzilee]

Yes, the thread has been done before...


:shrug:

BB is nothing if not ...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

BB is nothing if not ...

... borderline Left-Wing Loon.

 

[oggbashan]

There was a similar case recently in the UK when the accused claimed to have a future as a professional footballer. He was spared jail because it would damage his career.

But the football club, when the case was reported in the media, said "Who? We don't know him."

He was brought back to court and sent to jail.

This woman, BEFORE the incident that lead to her appearing in court, was also on her last warning at university for drug taking, lecture skipping and anti-social behaviour. She would have been expelled from the university for the incident but the university authorities didn't want to jeopardise the court case.

She too will probably be brought back to court for re-sentencing.

Defendants lie. Their lawyers lie for the defendant. But if the lie is found out? The court's decision on punishment can be changed.

 

[jezzilee]

There is a point here


I dont like it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Interesting...



We would call that Double-Jeopardy. It would have been up to the prosecution to verify the claims and backgrounds and use them to impeach. I think.

I might be wrong, we'll have to ask the Colonel. I think Double-Jeopardy refers to a second trial, but I'm not sure that I've ever heard of a sentenced reversed without some sort of trial on appeal.

 

[oggbashan]

Interesting...



We would call that Double-Jeopardy. It would have been up to the prosecution to verify the claims and backgrounds and use them to impeach. I think.

I might be wrong, we'll have to ask the Colonel. I think Double-Jeopardy refers to a second trial, but I'm not sure that I've ever heard of a sentenced reversed without some sort of trial on appeal.

In the UK the Crown Prosecution Service (or Attorney General) can appeal the sentence IF new evidence is discovered. Evidence that the defendant's claims that a career will be damaged/destroyed are part of the discussions AFTER guilt has been proven. Those discussions are to determine what would be a fair sentence. If the defence misrepresented the truth = lied during the pre-sentence discussions that lie could have changed the result.

The appeal is about whether the sentence was appropriate now the facts are known. It doesn't change the fact of conviction, only what punishment is proportionate.

In the US plea bargaining takes place before the trial. In the UK those discussions take place AFTER any conviction. If the defendant pleads Guilty before the trial starts that plea will reduce the sentence. If the defendant changes the plea during the trial? There might be a reduction.

If, before the trial starts, the defendant pleads guilty to a lesser offence it is up the Crown Prosecution Service and the Judge to decide whether to accept that plea or go for the original charge.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Thanks

 

[Pookie]

She's also fairly fuckable.

It's the boat, innit?


http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/Lavinia-805413.jpg

 

[Sean]

There was a similar case recently in the UK when the accused claimed to have a future as a professional footballer. He was spared jail because it would damage his career.

But the football club, when the case was reported in the media, said "Who? We don't know him."

He was brought back to court and sent to jail.

This woman, BEFORE the incident that lead to her appearing in court, was also on her last warning at university for drug taking, lecture skipping and anti-social behaviour. She would have been expelled from the university for the incident but the university authorities didn't want to jeopardise the court case.

She too will probably be brought back to court for re-sentencing.

Defendants lie. Their lawyers lie for the defendant. But if the lie is found out? The court's decision on punishment can be changed.

Cricket. Leicestershire, iirc.

 

[Lancecastor]

It's the boat, innit?


http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/Lavinia-805413.jpg

You're such a bilge pump.

 

[jezzilee]

... borderline Left-Wing Loon.

probab;y not the boat...

 

[Pookie]

You're such a bilge pump.

Is it the plane then?

https://c.tribune.com.pk/2017/05/17991899_10154851448494079_2936652554808156466_n-1495007005.jpg

 

[HisArpy]

There was a similar case recently in the UK when the accused claimed to have a future as a professional footballer. He was spared jail because it would damage his career.

But the football club, when the case was reported in the media, said "Who? We don't know him."

He was brought back to court and sent to jail.

This woman, BEFORE the incident that lead to her appearing in court, was also on her last warning at university for drug taking, lecture skipping and anti-social behaviour. She would have been expelled from the university for the incident but the university authorities didn't want to jeopardise the court case.

She too will probably be brought back to court for re-sentencing.

Defendants lie. Their lawyers lie for the defendant. But if the lie is found out? The court's decision on punishment can be changed.

Actually, there is some precedent that once a person is sentenced, REsentencing them to a harsher punishment would involve the 8th amendment AND double jeopardy.

 

[Sean]

Actually, there is some precedent that once a person is sentenced, REsentencing them to a harsher punishment would involve the 8th amendment AND double jeopardy.

No it wouldn't, Tim.

 

[oggbashan]

Actually, there is some precedent that once a person is sentenced, REsentencing them to a harsher punishment would involve the 8th amendment AND double jeopardy.

UK law isn't the same as US law and we don't have a written constitution.

We don't have the US version of plea bargaining. What we do have, once a defendant has been found guilty, is legal argument about what sentence is appropriate. If those legal arguments are based on lies by the convicted defendant, then the sentence can be appealed and made harsher.

Or the sentence can be appealed by the defence lawyers, again if there is some dispute about the arguments before the sentence decision.

What can't happen, although some are campaigning for a change, is an appeal on behalf of the victim against a lenient sentence. It is hard on a victim's family if their relation was killed by a drunk driver. Why?

It is particularly difficult in English Law to prove "dangerous driving". The defendant could plead guilty to "Driving without due care and attention" which has much lower penalties, and the court may accept that plea instead of a full trial which might, or might not, convict for "dangerous driving".

In that case, the defendant could face a fine, a disqualification from driving and a non-custodial sentence despite killing someone while drunk. The victim's family are likely to see that sentence as no compensation for their loss. But if the defendant is tried on a charge of "dangerous driving" the requirements of the law to prove that are so complex that he is likely to be found not guilty and face no punishment at all - except for the comparatively minor offence of drunk driving. He would have killed someone and "got away with it" in the relations' view.

 

[pointless]

wait, are you guys saying that there are countries in this world that aren't america? when the hell did this happen!? WHY WASN'T I INFORMED!?!?

 

[DeYaKen]

I believe this young lady has another two assault charges to her name. If they are still to come I doubt that she will avoid a custodial sentence.

The prosecution can appeal a sentence which is overly lenient so she may still be jailed.

Britains most prolific serial killer was a doctor. (Harold Shipman) I think the judge should have asked himself two questions.
1 Should I really be helping a junky get control of the drugs cabinet?
2 Would I want this person treating my mother?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Who knows?



She shows promise as a surgeon. Everyone survived...

 

[lovecraft68]

Now post all the links of women who are raped by students, athletes, celebrities and everyone else and they not only get away with it, but the woman always asks for it.

Got those handy? Of course not, only this one. How come? Because she's a woman who got away with something and that just drives the little men crazy doesn't it?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Proof that you do not have to read a thread to know what is in it and what motivates people to post...


Men are rapists and abusers and are pissed that women are not held to a higher standard.


Ladies and gentlemen brilliance walks among us.
I just hope that he gets out of my light...