Is this for real? Nordic areas thinking of outlawing men's rights groups?

[LJ_Reloaded]

At what point will men rise up and overthrow this nonsense? One good revolution and this bullshit is practically gone in one day.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/03/29/antifeminism-might-become-illegal-in-the-nordic-countries/

The Nordic Council has received recommendations from the expert panel to forbid antifeminist speech in the Nordic countries (Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Iceland and Norway).

The “Expert panel” was full of radical feminists and profeminist men.

The report is written in the Nordic languages (except Finnish) and some parts in English.

In the report antifeminist speech and right-wing extremist hate speech towards immigrants are treated as a part of the same movement.

MRM is labeled as part of right-wing extremism.


http://translate.google.com/transla...forslag-gor-det-straffbart-kritisera-feminism

Suggestion: Make it a criminal offense to criticize feminism
Posted on March 24, 2013 at 19:28

NORTH. Outlaw anti feminist statements in public debate, in the same way that hate speech is criminalized today. It proposes a tax-financed Nordic expert group of 35 experts on anti-feminism and right-wing extremism in a report to the Norwegian government.

Behind report says according to NRK Ressurssenteret Reform and the Nordic Council of Ministers, which on Wednesday made ​​several suggestions on how the government should take action against what it calls "threats, hatred and harassment" primarily on the Internet. As threats are classified including "anti-feminist attitudes" as expressed in public.

Under the proposal, anti-feminist attitudes banned if they are expressed through "attitude, behavior and action." As anti feminism counts following opinions under the proposal:

- Opposition to feminism and equality.

- Want to recreate a hierarchical social order in which heterosexual men are privileged.

- Opposition to the elimination of categorizations based on gender, race and sexual orientation.

Are Saastad leader of the team that developed the proposal. As an example of who the law is meant to protect, he mentions Dagens Nyheter cultural writer Maria Sveland, who claims to be the victim of "anti-feminist harassment".

Among the scientists and experts who contributed to the report include the Swedish scientist and former left extremist Mattias Gardell and Shoaib Sultan, "extremist expert" at Anti Racist Senter in Norway. Although Maria Sveland have participated in projeket, according to NRK.

Even now evokes the report's proposal, however, strongly criticized. In Norwegian Dagbladet writes cultural journalist Kjetil Rolness about how the proposal is similar to "censorship".

The report was financed by the taxpayers in the Nordic countries through the Nordic Council.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's the way of the far left and their oppressive cock sucking "fairness" bullshit ....suck it LT....suck it long and hard.

No worries though...America is right behind them. HILLARY 2016!! WEEEEW We NEED to have a woman in office.....

 

[renard_ruse]

That's really sad and pathetic.

Obviously they can't win a debate, so they censor their opponents. Just wow.

 

[renard_ruse]

At what point will men rise up and overthrow this nonsense?

No, the question is at what point will men AND women rise up and overthrow this nonsense?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

No, the question is at what point will men AND women rise up and overthrow this nonsense?

Holy shit you just had a smart moment. And I didn't even have my cell phone camera on.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Hey LT...howz that libURHULizm working out for you? I thought it was the fuckin' epitome of perfecting and awesome.......till it's something you don't like hua???

Piece of shit hypocrite. Why aren't you supporting this agenda? IT'S PROGRESSIVE!!!

YAAAAAY SOCIALISM!!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU ADVOCATE LT!!!

 

[BotanyBoy]

 

[Liar]

Is this for real?

The actual report is. The reporting on the report is skewed for sensationalism and vastly exaggerates it's impact.

Nordic areas thinking of outlawing men's rights groups?

Not really, no. Can't even see where it says it would.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Hey LT...howz that libURHULizm working out for you? I thought it was the fuckin' epitome of perfecting and awesome.......till it's something you don't like hua???

Piece of shit hypocrite. Why aren't you supporting this agenda? IT'S PROGRESSIVE!!!

YAAAAAY SOCIALISM!!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU ADVOCATE LT!!!

Liberalism hates men.

Conservatives, like you, hate the working class.

Throughout history people like you have caused many more deaths and even revolutions. But the most important part about people like you is YOU ARE DYING OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT HAHAHAHAHHAHA SUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

The actual report is. The reporting on the report is skewed for sensationalism and vastly exaggerates it's impact.

Not really, no. Can't even see where it says it would.

Looks to me like they're trying to equate men's rights to terrorism.

 

[Pairaclities]

The actual report is. The reporting on the report is skewed for sensationalism and vastly exaggerates it's impact.

Not really, no. Can't even see where it says it would.

If they are considering a ban it is because some of the Scandinavians are reading these threads!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Liberalism hates men.

Hurrrrrrr....

Conservatives, like you, hate the working class.

Throughout history people like you have caused many more deaths and even revolutions. But the most important part about people like you is YOU ARE DYING OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT HAHAHAHAHHAHA SUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT

pssssst.....newsflash.....I'm pro UHC, pro choice, pro education, anti censorship, pro civil rights and a staunch environmentalist......have been since the day I signed up for lit. Anyone on lit with two brain cells to rub together knows I'm pretty fucking far from being a conservative beyond thinking there are just some things the government has no business involving itself in like dictating marriage terms to people instead of letting them define their own marriage. Which 95% of the time winds up in favor of the left wing camp. B/c we all know the GOP is lying out it's fuckin' ass when they talk about limited government.

In fact the only real "Conservative" position you can pin me with is guns....I like guns and that's all the fucking reason I need to be pro 2A, 1A sayz so and it ALL goes back to that civil rights bit which is in fact rooted in left field.

You just assume b/c I'm not bat shit crazy pro union/pro white guilt/pro spend like there is no tomorrow on failed companies like you........ that I'm a conservative........because you're stupid like that.

 

[badbabysitter]

when I fist looked at this, I was outraged.. a horrible tyrannical move to outlaw certain groups

then i actually read the article and did a face palm

here's the key points that made me do so


"Under the proposal, anti-feminist attitudes banned if they are expressed through "attitude, behavior and action." As anti feminism counts following opinions under the proposal:

- Opposition to feminism and equality.

- Want to recreate a hierarchical social order in which heterosexual men are privileged.

- Opposition to the elimination of categorizations based on gender, race and sexual orientation."


think this through for a moment

"
- Opposition to feminism and equality."

opposition to equality... think about that..this isnt a group espousing the value of their rights... but diminishing the value of equality

the feminist part is bullshit.. but wanting to throw down equality...that's nightmarish, and I can't believe anyone outside of a fascist would support that

"Want to recreate a hierarchical social order in which heterosexual men are privileged."

so you'd be okay with a group actively politically campaigning to create an order where only straight men called the shots... yeah...that's..charming

"Opposition to the elimination of categorizations based on gender, race and sexual orientation."

so you'd support a system where you can discriminate legally on gender, race or sexual orientation...really?


really?

sieg heil baby

hell, if you just removed the word feminist from the first key point and inserted men's rights.. I'm betting you wouldnt have even reported this

plus I still cant find where men's groups would be outlawed..unless they of course support the fascism which is inherent in those key points

plus at the very end you mentioned the report was rejected

rejected


RE-JECT-ED


so you're outraged at a report that will never have any follow through, that inherently supports fascism in those that oppose it, and doesnt even outlaw men's rights groups you insisted on in the thread title

in closing

 

[richard_daily]

Why is the OP so scared of women?

And why does he lie about marches and rallies that he never attended?

 

[badbabysitter]

also..points magically ommited from the report by LT

"Programs should target men and boys who experience marginalisation. Some boys and men feel marginalised from society. In some cases, this feeling may represent a desire to maintain male privileges, but it may also be grounded in real-life ex - periences. This feeling of marginalisation and isolation may lead to vulnerability to the rhetoric and the sense of belonging that extremist organisations and groups offer. To address the feeling of marginalisation, programmes should be initiated that target men’s marginalisation. Areas of particular importance include combating boys’ dropout from the educational system, crime prevention, and efforts to ensure better contact between fathers and children after divorce. Gender equality organisations must consider addressing men’s concerns not as the opposite of addressing women’s, but as an integral part of working towards gender equality."

helping men and boys????

HOW FUCKING DARE THEY..THAT'S..THAT'S.... ummm.. shit... derp

Gender equality and anti discrimination efforts must broaden norms of masculinity. The Nordic welfare states are working to wards gender equality and against discrimination based on gender, ethnic background, class, sexual orientation, religion, age and disabilities. These efforts must be intensified, and must include the work towards expanding the norms of masculinity, counteract gender stereotypes, and promote nuanced, positive and equal masculinities.


helping gay men too? .. that's ummm..evil?

We recommend that the Nordic governments ensure that threats and harassment on the basis of gender are made illegal. Hate speech online must be persecuted similarly to hate speech in other public spheres. Laws regulating online hate speech are currently not in place in all of the Nordic countries

sheesh.. now they want to make threats a crime now? fuck... that means they'd catch up with the mid 20th century..those fucking evil bitches

 

[renard_ruse]

This is what liberals do all over the world, they define opposition to their views as "hate" and then ban it.

They are scared of real debate.

 

[badbabysitter]

This is what liberals do all over the world, they define opposition to their views as "hate" and then ban it.

They are scared of real debate.

since when have you ever participated in a real debate.. you make shit up then run away

 

[renard_ruse]

since when have you ever participated in a real debate.. you make shit up then run away

When do I ever "make stuff up." Why would I do that?

This seems to be the latest lieberal MO, claim that anything anyone says they are doing is "made up" even though its real.

 

[renard_ruse]

since when have you ever participated in a real debate.. you make shit up then run away

I choose not to get into bickering matches with you or your known alts because its a waste of my time. What would it accomplish? You're not open to anything besides your own preconceived (and false) notions.

 

[renard_ruse]

since when have you ever participated in a real debate.. you make shit up then run away

If the things I say that are happening in the world aren't, then great. I hope they are not happening, then I've got nothing to worry about and you have no reason to worry about anything I say. Yet you still do. Interesting.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

when I fist looked at this, I was outraged.. a horrible tyrannical move to outlaw certain groups

then i actually read the article and did a face palm

here's the key points that made me do so


"Under the proposal, anti-feminist attitudes banned if they are expressed through "attitude, behavior and action." As anti feminism counts following opinions under the proposal:

- Opposition to feminism and equality.

- Want to recreate a hierarchical social order in which heterosexual men are privileged.

- Opposition to the elimination of categorizations based on gender, race and sexual orientation."


think this through for a moment

"
- Opposition to feminism and equality."

opposition to equality... think about that..this isnt a group espousing the value of their rights... but diminishing the value of equality

the feminist part is bullshit.. but wanting to throw down equality...that's nightmarish, and I can't believe anyone outside of a fascist would support that

"Want to recreate a hierarchical social order in which heterosexual men are privileged."

so you'd be okay with a group actively politically campaigning to create an order where only straight men called the shots... yeah...that's..charming

"Opposition to the elimination of categorizations based on gender, race and sexual orientation."

so you'd support a system where you can discriminate legally on gender, race or sexual orientation...really?


really?

sieg heil baby

hell, if you just removed the word feminist from the first key point and inserted men's rights.. I'm betting you wouldnt have even reported this

plus I still cant find where men's groups would be outlawed..unless they of course support the fascism which is inherent in those key points

plus at the very end you mentioned the report was rejected

rejected


RE-JECT-ED


so you're outraged at a report that will never have any follow through, that inherently supports fascism in those that oppose it, and doesnt even outlaw men's rights groups you insisted on in the thread title

in closing

NEWS FLASH!!!

Outlawing groups that BELIEVE in stupid things, is stupid.

I have never talked about outlawing misandry.

You fail again!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

also..points magically ommited from the report by LT

"Programs should target men and boys who experience marginalisation. Some boys and men feel marginalised from society. In some cases, this feeling may represent a desire to maintain male privileges, but it may also be grounded in real-life ex - periences. This feeling of marginalisation and isolation may lead to vulnerability to the rhetoric and the sense of belonging that extremist organisations and groups offer. To address the feeling of marginalisation, programmes should be initiated that target men’s marginalisation. Areas of particular importance include combating boys’ dropout from the educational system, crime prevention, and efforts to ensure better contact between fathers and children after divorce. Gender equality organisations must consider addressing men’s concerns not as the opposite of addressing women’s, but as an integral part of working towards gender equality."

helping men and boys????

HOW FUCKING DARE THEY..THAT'S..THAT'S.... ummm.. shit... derp

Gender equality and anti discrimination efforts must broaden norms of masculinity. The Nordic welfare states are working to wards gender equality and against discrimination based on gender, ethnic background, class, sexual orientation, religion, age and disabilities. These efforts must be intensified, and must include the work towards expanding the norms of masculinity, counteract gender stereotypes, and promote nuanced, positive and equal masculinities.


helping gay men too? .. that's ummm..evil?

We recommend that the Nordic governments ensure that threats and harassment on the basis of gender are made illegal. Hate speech online must be persecuted similarly to hate speech in other public spheres. Laws regulating online hate speech are currently not in place in all of the Nordic countries

sheesh.. now they want to make threats a crime now? fuck... that means they'd catch up with the mid 20th century..those fucking evil bitches

Thank God America has the First Amendment.

The problem with your stupid argument is that hate speech can be defined as practically anything.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Hurrrrrrr....



pssssst.....newsflash.....I'm pro UHC, pro choice, pro education, anti censorship, pro civil rights and a staunch environmentalist......have been since the day I signed up for lit. Anyone on lit with two brain cells to rub together knows I'm pretty fucking far from being a conservative beyond thinking there are just some things the government has no business involving itself in like dictating marriage terms to people instead of letting them define their own marriage. Which 95% of the time winds up in favor of the left wing camp. B/c we all know the GOP is lying out it's fuckin' ass when they talk about limited government.

In fact the only real "Conservative" position you can pin me with is guns....I like guns and that's all the fucking reason I need to be pro 2A, 1A sayz so and it ALL goes back to that civil rights bit which is in fact rooted in left field.

You just assume b/c I'm not bat shit crazy pro union/pro white guilt/pro spend like there is no tomorrow on failed companies like you........ that I'm a conservative........because you're stupid like that.

Whatever you say, mister make-believe high speed assassin living in your imaginary infrastructure-free self sufficient single wide.

Tell us again how organized labor is wrong but organized management is okay? Or are ya gonna flip-flop on that next?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Whatever you say, mister make-believe high speed assassin living in your imaginary infrastructure-free self sufficient single wide.

A) I said I was retired....

B) It's mostly infrastructure free self sufficient house....with a full basement. That was done out of pure greed and had nothing to do with politics....more efficient living, pure and simple.

Tell us again how organized labor is wrong but organized management is okay? Or are ya gonna flip-flop on that next?

I never said organized labor is wrong....I just said it isn't inherently superior. Which is where you went flying off the handle and ascribed me this union hater position.

Unions are just like business's, some are great and serve their purpose without biting the hand that feeds, it's well managed and everyone in the circle of business/labor/consumer/investor is a winner. Others are as corrupt and fuckin' evil as the day is long, toxic to the industry, toxic to themselves....the epitome of "When keeping it real goes wrong".
You cannot take an all or nothing position for either side or you come off like LT....a fucking hack and an asshole, because real life is too fucking complicated for that black and white of a position on labor.

Of course that would be RATIONAL thought...something you are obviously incapable of as you ascribed me long ago as anti union...because I don't rabidly support unions across the board like a bat shit left wing hack.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

A) I said I was retired....

B) It's mostly infrastructure free self sufficient house....with a full basement. That was done out of pure greed and had nothing to do with politics....more efficient living, pure and simple.

Cool story sis.

And I never had an all-or-nothing attitude about Unions. Dumbass.