Is there a tag for this sort of M/M activity?

[Statius]

What you're describing sounds like consensual non-consent. Why not use that tag along with m/m?
And I feel it might be good for this thread to remember that bi people exist.

Agreed. Why I put M/M bi or poly/bi.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

This erases bi people who actually do experience romance and emotion with same sex partners.

It's a complex world we live in. I think you've misinterpreted what I wrote. Just because I think Gay erases attraction to different sex partners, does not imply the converse.

Sexuality is more of a spectrum than gender is, even though both have absolutes as their underlying basis; male - female, gay/lesbian - straight, and I play in both sandboxes, so...
My intent was to illustrate that to me, gay was more exclusive, that it requires the physical and emotional attractors where bisexuality does not. It doesn't mean that bisexuality cannot.

Using myself as an example, I enjoy sex with both men and women, thus bisexual. I am not inherently attracted to men, though I do think Sam Elliot and Tom Selleck are two of the sexiest men to ever live. Yup, I'm on my knees or bent over the sofa at a whisper.

My primary physical and emotional attractor is still to women in all their shapes and sizes and flavors. I think I'd make an excellent lesbian and I'm working on that.

I was a straight man who's wanted to be a lesbian since she was six, and along the way discovered that she was actually bisexual and the male sex organ was a lot of fun to play with and fit very well in some very intimate places making all kinds of things go woohoo...

Make sensed? I didn't think so. Good luck. I hope I didn't muddy the waters too much.

 

[AG31]

And I feel it might be good for this thread to remember that bi people exist.

Somehow address it in a tag? How would that work?

 

[redgarters]

Not sure. 'Foced bi' is a tag used both here and other places, I think that if you put that and 'cnc' together on the story that captures it roughly (no pun inte... oh, who am I kidding). The bi part is then not describing orientation or attraction but rather the sexual act of forcing someone to act sexually against orientation? 'Forced m/m could be even better perhaps, that erases the possibility of bi attraction better, if that's what's intended.

 

[AG31]

Not sure. 'Foced bi' is a tag used both here and other places, I think that if you put that and 'cnc' together on the story that captures it roughly (no pun inte... oh, who am I kidding). The bi part is then not describing orientation or attraction but rather the sexual act of forcing someone to act sexually against orientation? 'Forced m/m could be even better perhaps, that erases the possibility of bi attraction better, if that's what's intended.

I feel there's a difference, but can you (or anyone here) articulate the difference between "forced" and "raped?"

 

[Katie_Mae]

I feel there's a difference, but can you (or anyone here) articulate the difference between "forced" and "raped?"

Forced is allowed as a tag, raped isn't.

In the real-world there isn't really a moral difference (in my opinion), but there may be a legal difference (to clarify, depending on the country's laws. I can give example if needed)

In a fictional world there is a difference when it comes to a non-con kink, which I could expand on if you're curious in a discussion, but as "raped" can't be used as a tag then it might not be worth exploring.

 

[redgarters]

I feel there's a difference, but can you (or anyone here) articulate the difference between "forced" and "raped?"

It's a question of if the 'forced' part is consensual or not. If it's not consensual it's rape. If it is consensual then it isn't rape but consensual non-consent. This is the defining difference.

There are issues to explore there, but that's the line.

Most of the scenarios you described read consensual, in that the men seem to choose to do these things. That suggest they might be able to choose not to, and thus are not being raped but consent to being forced. But perhaps you are intending them not to be consensual?

 

[Gamblnluck]

I was a straight man who's wanted to be a lesbian since she was six, and along the way discovered that she was actually bisexual and the male sex organ was a lot of fun to play with and fit very well in some very intimate places making all kinds of things go woohoo...

Isn't a straight male attracted to females still straight? Used to have a friend who always joked he was a 'lesbian' because he loved women so much. He'd say it out loud in mixed company and grin like a fiend.

 

[nice90sguy]

what kind of MM activity falls into the category of "not clearly gay"

Complimenting a man on his shoes.