Is there a better word for this than submissive?

[newtoforums]

I like the idea of CFNM (clothed female , naked male) and women getting on top, pulling my hair , light slaps on the face/ass.

But these are not typical things male subs are into. For example many male subs are into cuckoldry. CFNM is almost like the exact opposite. For example CFNM is about exhibitionism and cuckoldry is about voyeurism. In CFNM only the man gets off. In cuckoldry only the woman gets off. CFNM is about enjoying the male body and cuckoldry is about humiliating the male body. In my CFNM fantasies the woman would rather massage my nude body than have me serve her.Other male subs are into SPH. In my fantasies I am vulnerable but part of the appeal is that the woman thinks of me as some sort of alpha male and that is why she enjoys dominating me.While I enjoy the thought of minor slaps most of my fantasies focus on me getting oral sex. I very rarely even think of giving the woman oral sex in my fantasy.

Am I considered to be submissive or what? I do have fantasies where I am the dominant one too.

 

[CutieMouse]

IMO, no.

I might be totally wrong, but I always thought CNFM was more of a humiliation, CBT, forced fem, serve ladies tea and cookies sort of thing...

 

[newtoforums]

IMO, no.

I might be totally wrong, but I always thought CNFM was more of a humiliation, CBT, forced fem, serve ladies tea and cookies sort of thing...

Plenty of CFNM just revolves around clothed women giving nude men handjobs and blowjobs. A lot of it seems to involve complimenting the guy and admiring his body.

This is why I said my fantasies are not really submissive. In my fantasies the woman enjoys complimenting me and playing with me. There is no way she would want to lock me up.

So what does this make me?

 

[CutieMouse]

A guy who is more concerned with being the center of attention than anything else?

 

[Netzach]

I think it's mostly feminine - tie me up and make me your sexy captive, lick me and tease me, and slap me around and get a little rough but admire my naked hotness kind of way.

If the dude is actually hot, visually pretty, pleasing, sexy, then this kind of thing takes up some of my fantasy airtime, and I do consider myself a Dominant woman.

However, the thought of being stuck in this regime because *he* wants it is insta turnoff.

 

[newtoforums]

I think it's mostly feminine - tie me up and make me your sexy captive, lick me and tease me, and slap me around and get a little rough but admire my naked hotness kind of way.

If the dude is actually hot, visually pretty, pleasing, sexy, then this kind of thing takes up some of my fantasy airtime, and I do consider myself a Dominant woman.

However, the thought of being stuck in this regime because *he* wants it is insta turnoff.

That's not good either. How do I make my fantasies more masculine?

Its not like men wouldn't find doing all the work and receiving none of the attention to be particularly fun. Is that somehow more masculine?

 

[00Syd]

That's not good either. How do I make my fantasies more masculine?

IMO, you shouldn't worry about whether your fantasies are too this or too that, or whatever. They are what they are and if someone thinks they are feminine, then you know what? They are still your fantasies and they still get you hot, so, so what? You can't really change what gets you hot and bothered just because you think it isn't flattering.

 

[isseii]

That's not good either. How do I make my fantasies more masculine?

Its not like men wouldn't find doing all the work and receiving none of the attention to be particularly fun. Is that somehow more masculine?

00Syd already said it very well, but really why would you want to change your fantasies? If it's something you enjoy and get off on it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of it or what type of label you put on it. No offense, but your fantasy really isn't that unusual and if it's anything at all it's a bit self centered so I wouldn't consider it submissive behavior at all. Just enjoy it for what it is and don't worry about it.

 

[BiBunny]

Do we really have to go through this yet again?

 

[CutieMouse]

Do we really have to go through this yet again?

That was my initial thought, as well, actually. I just wasn't dedicated enough to run a search. LOL

 

[MisterSir]

Do we really have to go through this yet again?

...I thought the CFNM topic was familiar.

 

[newtoforums]

I guess this is the type of woman I fantasize about.

http://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa/51_love_secrets.html

 

[BiBunny]

So...lazy and narcissistic. Yeah, boy, that's what all women want right there.

 

[newtoforums]

So...lazy and narcissistic. Yeah, boy, that's what all women want right there.

I'd have no problem with the roles reversed. There's no point in mentioning that because that would just be the norm and just be vanilla sex.

You just described most women.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

"The generally accepted therapeutic notion that, for women, incubating intimacy leads to better sex is, Meana told me, often misguided. “Really,” she said, “women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic” — it is dominated by the yearnings of “self-love,” by the wish to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that, in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies center less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. “When it comes to desire,” she added, “women may be far less relational than men.”"

 

[rosco rathbone]

Just bump your old thread FFS.

I don't go making a new thread about oral servitude every time I pop a bone about it which is about 3x per diem.

 

[MisterSir]

I'd have no problem with the roles reversed. There's no point in mentioning that because that would just be the norm and just be vanilla sex.

You just described most women.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

"The generally accepted therapeutic notion that, for women, incubating intimacy leads to better sex is, Meana told me, often misguided. “Really,” she said, “women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic” — it is dominated by the yearnings of “self-love,” by the wish to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that, in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies center less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. “When it comes to desire,” she added, “women may be far less relational than men.”"

Big fucking deal. It doesn't address why you felt the need to make another thread about the same stupid subject.

 

[newtoforums]

Just bump your old thread FFS.

I don't go making a new thread about oral servitude every time I pop a bone about it which is about 3x per diem.

I forgot about that. It happens.

Big fucking deal. It doesn't address why you felt the need to make another thread about the same stupid subject.

You haven't addressed why you had the need to post a useless response again.

 

[MisterSir]

You haven't addressed why you had the need to post a useless response again.

I disagree, it's a question that you haven't answered. If you'd answered and I'd still asked the question, then it would be useless

Alternatively, if you're going to be childish about this, then I'm rubber and you're glue, so suck it.

 

[newtoforums]

I disagree, it's a question that you haven't answered. If you'd answered and I'd still asked the question, then it would be useless

Alternatively, if you're going to be childish about this, then I'm rubber and you're glue, so suck it.

Read above. I said I forgot. Can you not see?

Make that three useless posts.

Now shove it.

 

[shy slave]

Just bump your old thread FFS.

I don't go making a new thread about oral servitude every time I pop a bone about it which is about 3x per diem.

Oral servitude threads are always good