Is the Apocalypse Political?

[ll74]

Why Growing Parts of the Christian Right Are Convinced It’s the Apocalypse ​

I'm seriously interested in understanding how many religious folks actually believe that the "second coming" is real and that world events demonstrate that it's happening.

It's always fascinated me that there is a subset of people who believe that stories in the scriptures are real events and that they predict what is to come in our world.

I think it actually drives public opinion, especially when I hear people espouse how their politic opposition is "evil".

So in response in this thread,.I'd love to hear whether you believe that your political opposition is evil. Additionally, do you believe in a "second coming" as a real event?

 

[stxjimmy]

It explains part of US policy vis a vis Isreal, the Christian Right are as funny as fuck, but do have a massive potential to be truly dangerous for the rest of us.
You only have to see what they achieved recently with abortion. I think it’s to do with their particular notion of Christianity, based upon literal Old Testamentism.
No book is so good that it shouldn’t be re-assessed in 2000 years. Same goes for a constitution.

 

[ll74]

It explains part of US policy vis a vis Isreal, the Christian Right are as funny as fuck, but do have a massive potential to be truly dangerous for the rest of us.
You only have to see what they achieved recently with abortion. I think it’s to do with their particular notion of Christianity, based upon literal Old Testamentism.
No book is so good that it shouldn’t be re-assessed in 2000 years. Same goes for a constitution.

I think the right's position on Israel is oddly fragmented. It seems on policy decisions, they want a strong Israel, due to some negative feelings towards Islam but on cultural, they think the people of Israel have too much power. And I don't mean to ascribe to all righties here....just a general observation and it's always been confusing to me

 

[stxjimmy]

Don’t know enough about the cultural aspects you mention.
Do though think trump moving the us embassy to Jerusalem was a very provocative act.
The idea of a politician who believes in “rapture” being in charge of us policy is a frightening one!

 

[ll74]

Don’t know enough about the cultural aspects you mention.
Do though think trump moving the us embassy to Jerusalem was a very provocative act.
The idea of a politician who believes in “rapture” being in charge of us policy is a frightening one!

I agree. Though I think the number of politicians in that position, historically, is probably higher than you or I think.

 

[stxjimmy]

I agree. Though I think the number of politicians in that position, historically, is probably higher than you or I think.

As an aside it’s ironic how the gun advocates who find the idea of amending your constitution intolerable have nothing to say about the Christian Right in politics. Was the constitution not against that too?

 

[phrodeau]

Christ has already returned. It’s Whoopi Goldberg.

 

[jaF0]

Along the same lines .....

Shocking Number of Americans Believe We Are Living in the End Times​

Those who believe are living in the end times are less likely to say climate change is an extremely or very serious problem than those who don't.

 

[Wedge_Antilles]

Most of what people believe is in the Bible re the apocalypse is not in the Bible.
I dare say most people in general have never actually read the Bible. Not all of it anyway.

 

[ll74]

Most of what people believe is in the Bible re the apocalypse is not in the Bible.
I dare say most people in general have never actually read the Bible. Not all of it anyway.

Which version?

Growing up, I read what I was told to read and learned what they taught me. Never had any desire to read further.

My guess is that religious people find value in doing so and so probably have read at least their church's version of choice.

 

[the_single_gal_unconfidential]

two words can illistrate the malleability of some human brains.

Herschel walker.

 

[Wedge_Antilles]

Which version?

Growing up, I read what I was told to read and learned what they taught me. Never had any desire to read further.

My guess is that religious people find value in doing so and so probably have read at least their church's version of choice.

Doesn't matter what version. I'd lay money on most people simply never reading the whole thing. They cherry pick verses and zone out during sermons. I've met very few who have legitimately read the Bible cover to cover who weren't in the clergy.

 

[ll74]

Doesn't matter what version. I'd lay money on most people simply never reading the whole thing. They cherry pick verses and zone out during sermons. I've met very few who have legitimately read the Bible cover to cover who weren't in the clergy.

I've met a few people. Typically they are avidly attending church and involved in their church. A few have been ministers. I appreciate them, though piss them off with my rhetoric much of the time. I enjoy those people who understand the political nature of their scriptures.

 

[AlexBailey]

I’ve read the New Testament cover to cover. The most sticking message I got from it is:

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”

 

[Wedge_Antilles]

I’ve read the New Testament cover to cover. The most sticking message I got from it is:

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”

The NT is only half the Bible. A third if one counts the Quran which I think should be counted.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I've read both the Bible (not the king James version I think, which ever version the Gideon's handed out to school kids back in the day) and the Quran. I found a lot of similarities in each, and IMHO some pretty good fiction from a long time ago.