Is 'Pure' still Posting here?

[amicus]

Thank you crybaby TXRad...now my high meat prices Thread is getting double exposure over on the GB. I cannot imagine, truly, the internal feeling an adult has running to mommy cuz someone doesn't like what is said.

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I would suggest that logo be changed or deleted..seven years I Posted here,any and everything I wanted..then Stella started a campaign to ban political discussions. I was certain management would ignore you as the 'free speech' foundation held far more value than your petty complaints.

I believed that the owners of this site named it Literotica and nor Porno something, to illustrate and encourage deeper thoughts and words concernng human sexual activities frather than t he shallow stroke stories that abound.

Homosexuals make up a tiny percentage of the American public, yet they are the tail wagging the dog on this forum and I do wonder why?

The real issue here and the reason you put such effort into censoring me and my philosophy, is simple, I have values, you do not. I have ethics and morals and I write th em into my stories, you do not.

I am not the least bit sullied by your despicable actions in whining to management; just the opposite, that I frighten your poor little fringe existence and lack of values enough to make you run to mommy and daddy is quite enough to make me smile and justify everythingI write.

I really don't give a shit; visiting the AH really is slumming in the endless search for intellectul excellence...there ain't none here.

To the few who have endeavor to keep the standard above the muck of Stella and company,I applaud you. Keep it up and have courage my friends, the rot is internal here and will collapse of its own lack of integrity.

New people here, express yourselves, be brave and courageous, state your opinions, defend them and show the TxRads and the Stellas they are just bags of fetid air.

Amicus

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Amicus! I'll be damned! This place has been unimaginably dull since you disappeared. I imagined you'd given up Lit to join the Aryan Brotherhood or worse, shuffled off this mortal coil to join the Libertarians Eternal.

But cursed as I am with congenital liberalism, I can't help but offer my condolences for that detached retina and wish you the best, though I don't know whether you'd understand that sentiment or not.

And no, I haven't seen Pure here for some time.

Looks like election season has arrived at last...

 

[jomar]

Oh, hi Ami.
I have to tell you, I've used your bizarre personality to good effect in several stories. I can always use more examples of your hypocrisy and fear. You're the kind of slimebag I could never invent.

Ami's here less than a day here, and look-- a gem of dumbassery!

It's going into my files.

I especially love things like this;
Because calling Ami a hypocrite and an asshole equals denying human values.

And this one; Hows that for a damning accusation! It's pretty much completely meaningless, but it might snow someone.

For Ami to talk about "integrity" is just too delicious.

There is much more, of course, but I'm curious, Stella. At one point you claimed to have proof, or at least know that Ami was in an ultra conservative role here, while on another site playing a super liberal. If so, all this is performance art. If performance art, why get all riled up? What's up?

 

[lovecraft68]

Yeah, because there aren't any offensive terms that minorities and females use to refer to white straight (or bisexual for that matter) males. Being a bisexual white male apparently doesn't fit into one of Stella's precious precious oppressed classes.

I wonder why Stella doesn't address the casual use by black rappers of a certain offensive word that begins with n. Does non-PC speech suddenly become PC when used by someone not of the "privileged" (evil straight white dudes) class?

The fact is that lots of people who are not white and/or not male and/or not straight who enjoy non-PC speech.

You're not quite right. I get called a "breeder" here often.

Now that doesn't bother me. Unlike many I adhere to sticks and stones. Short of putting your hands on me you're not going to get me to bite.

However, whenever I've been called that my first reaction is

"Okay, well if it weren't for breeders your lame ass wouldn't be here, now would it?"

and being for lack of a better term the "big three" as in white/straight/male let me tell you why that sucks these days.

If I don;t get a job I can;t say it was because they don't like-fill in the blank-gays blacks women- I just didn't get the job.

If I get laid off, same thing.

If someone calls me a breeder good luck with me getting them fired, but oh let me say fag or nigger in the work place let's see what happens then.

Thing is everything is becoming equal as it should be. Racism is nothing to what it was. I know kids these days want to cry racism where they can, but have no clue what it is.

they should ask their grandparents what its like to not be allowed to use the same bubbler as whites, maybe they would appreciate what they have.

Gay marriage is being allowed in more states and pc has so gone in reverse that Chik-fil-a is probably going to be driven out of business because "Gasps" the owner does not approve of gay marriage.

These days if you don;t kiss the "minorities" ass you are screwed.

Face it whiners your crutch is rapidly going away. You can no longer say I did not get the job because, I got fired because, my life sucks because.....

Nope, you're out of excuses. Any failure in your life these days is on you, not on us "big threes"

 

[TxRad]

Just as whinny as ever aren't you Ami but i had nothing to do with your thread being moved. I didn't even know it had been moved until I was editing my sig and saw a post to it there. Then I realized it was on the GB.

If ya got a problem, take it up with the site owner. She is the only one who can move threads from the AH and you know that.

But if anyone had asked, I'd say the GB was a very good place for your bullshit. Not to mention they love you over there as much as we do.

 

[ishtat]

1 Happy 73rd Amicus.

2 A question for Stella. Did you request that Amicus' other thread be removed to the GB? I'm interested to know, because on the three occasions I have written to the site owner I have never received an acknowledgment let alone a response.

 

[Verdad]

Been over at the GB for a while, areal place for discussions by authors and others...Liar and JBJ show up from time to time,but I have not noticed Pure,with whom many insults were exchanged over the years and I miss the only self admitted Socialist on the forum.

Pure, ya there? Come visit the GB, dip ur wick...

amicus

Hiya, Ami. Good to see you. Pure’s on a vacation at the mo, and not often around of late, but he might pop in. I’ll pass on your regards in any case.

The way the soft lefties on this board gang up in Amicus every time he sticks his head over the parapet only serves to show how much you all need him. Without the contrast of Ami the opinions of the left lack any contrast and thus impact . Face up to it suckers, you need the old coot, otherwise you are all just so boring.

Sure, Amicoot is as mad as a cut snake, but he writes entertainingly and is smarter than most of his wanna be opponents. Offensive yeah : of course he is and long may he remain so. Some of the best writing I have seen here has been from the likes of Dr M, Pure, Verdad Liar et al --- and where are they all now that they no longer have Ami to oppose -- they have all shot through, bored stiff perhaps


Sure Ami talks a load of bollocks, but it's entertaining well argued bollocks, and at least you all have the chance of sticking one on him in respose - if you can!

Hiya, CD. I’m most flattered you noticed my absence (and didn’t even feel an overwhelming sense of relief!). I’d notice yours, too.

Bored stiff was about right. I think I for one will be back yet, but there’s lying on the beach and stuff to do first. Cheers.

 

[Stella_Omega]

1 Happy 73rd Amicus.

2 A question for Stella. Did you request that Amicus' other thread be removed to the GB? I'm interested to know, because on the three occasions I have written to the site owner I have never received an acknowledgment let alone a response.

Nope. Wasn't me. Honest to ghawd. Ami's got stuff published here-- according to the rules he gets to start thread about anything he wants to in AH. Unlike jimmynibbles, who has nothing posted here and can only start threads legitimately about writing.

But 'writing to the site owners' won't get you far. If you want Laurel to read your complaint, look for the 'report post' link and click on that.

Sure Ami talks a load of bollocks, but it's entertaining well argued bollocks, and at least you all have the chance of sticking one on him in respose - if you can!

Well argued, you really think so? This explains so much about the state of our society.

 

[Pure]

Hi Ami

Yes, I'm around occasionally and just returned from a vacation in a swing state CO in the heart of the beast.

I loved meeting some real live Republicans who believe "Obamacare" is socialist, etc, that private companies were nationalized, Lenin style, etc.

I hope your health is maintaining. Be Well. I have my own issues there.

And yes, it's too bad some interesting threads have disappeared. I don't think politics has disappeared, but the scope has greatly narrowed. Instead the topic of laws violating private property (and a 100 other areas), it's mainly focussed on laws violating (or affirming) rights of women and of various sexual orientations and lifestyles.

The quest for 'writerly' threads continues; they are always hard to start and hard to find, though I must say JBJ did a lot in this area.

(been writing mainstream stuff, hence the caps!)
best,
pure.

 

[Thefamiliar]

You're not quite right. I get called a "breeder" here often.

Now that doesn't bother me. Unlike many I adhere to sticks and stones. Short of putting your hands on me you're not going to get me to bite.

However, whenever I've been called that my first reaction is

"Okay, well if it weren't for breeders your lame ass wouldn't be here, now would it?"

and being for lack of a better term the "big three" as in white/straight/male let me tell you why that sucks these days.

If I don;t get a job I can;t say it was because they don't like-fill in the blank-gays blacks women- I just didn't get the job.

If I get laid off, same thing.

If someone calls me a breeder good luck with me getting them fired, but oh let me say fag or nigger in the work place let's see what happens then.

Thing is everything is becoming equal as it should be. Racism is nothing to what it was. I know kids these days want to cry racism where they can, but have no clue what it is.

they should ask their grandparents what its like to not be allowed to use the same bubbler as whites, maybe they would appreciate what they have.

Gay marriage is being allowed in more states and pc has so gone in reverse that Chik-fil-a is probably going to be driven out of business because "Gasps" the owner does not approve of gay marriage.

These days if you don;t kiss the "minorities" ass you are screwed.

Face it whiners your crutch is rapidly going away. You can no longer say I did not get the job because, I got fired because, my life sucks because.....

Nope, you're out of excuses. Any failure in your life these days is on you, not on us "big threes"

For the record not arguing, because in my experience you speak true..

However you can gripe about losing out because you are not a minority! Lol

Though, a straight, white male is slowly becoming a minority, which is a bit ironic I think.
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As far as posts being moved to the appropriate section, umm its not censorship, it just keeping the forums tidy, if you dont wish to engage in conversation with everyone simply use the quote feature...really??

Ofcourse, everyone always has the option to open a thread or not, then to chose to reply, what is up with the blame game around here? It makes me feel like I am in the midst of bickering children...its exhausting! Lol

The only thing you can change in life is you. The rest is just amusement.

Those are about the only thoughts that can get squeezed out of my brain today...figured I would share since its the thing to do on forums...

 

[Stella_Omega]

You can, in fact make the point that "breeder" is harassment based on your sexuality. And I bet you would be listened to.

But you know what-- bitching at the people who are finally seeing some redress? That's not gonna fly. Bitch at the hets around you who fucked over so many people that at last the fuckery couldn't be ignored any longer.

When hetero men start dying for the sin of heterosexuality, and have to hide their wives in case the management notices and fires them on some trumped up charge-- then I'll see a real problem.

Same with racism. It's SO easy for you to tell a black kid that his life is easier than his granpa's, isn't it?

 

[Spacefender]

You're not quite right. I get called a "breeder" here often.

"Okay, well if it weren't for breeders your lame ass wouldn't be here, now would it?"

..... not be allowed to use the same bubbler....

"Breeder" is quite possibly the stupidest insult in the history of insultery. "Breeder"? Really? They couldn't come up with something better?

Also, "bubbler"? I'm going to take a wild guess that you live in Massachusetts.

But you know what-- bitching at the people who are finally seeing some redress? That's not gonna fly.

Calling people breeders is redress? And apparently insulting innocent people is just okay, you know, just making up for the injustices of the past and all. Explains a lot about you.

 

[Thefamiliar]

Hmmm I thought bubbler was strictly a milwaukee term...at least when I was growing up it was...

Good to know the insanity has spread.

 

[Stella_Omega]

"Breeder" is quite possibly the stupidest insult in the history of insultery. "Breeder"? Really? They couldn't come up with something better?

well sure, But the onject isn't to insult people worse, it's to avide having to insult people.

Calling people breeders is redress? And apparently insulting innocent people is just okay, you know, just making up for the injustices of the past and all. Explains a lot about you.

I didn't say that. And he's not innocent anyway. He was defending his own use of nigger etc, saying he couldn't say those things(but would like to) I said he could probably bring "breeder" to HR as sexual harassment.

The redress i was talking about has nothing to do with calling names in retaliation, it has to do with not being fired because of who you are..

See the problem with words like faggot or Nigger in the mouths of people who aren't those things? Is that those people far too often feel they have the right to do MORE than merely call someone a name.

http://www.wisconsingazette.com/bre...saulted-attackers-carved-slurs-into-skin.html

Show me a case where some straight person got carved up for being straight.

 

[PayDay]

I'm really starting to wonder if I'm the only one that doesn't consider JBJ a pain in the ass?

Maybe?

I know, I know.

Sucks to be white these days.

Hey now, the majority feels oppression as well, don't just go and discount them

 

[Spacefender]

I didn't say that. And he's not innocent anyway.

I wasn't talking about him specifically but the idea of the "breeder" insult being used in general. Do you really think the people that go around calling other people "breeders" are stopping to inquire whether the heteros they're insulting are homophobic or not? Or do you think they just hurling the insults towards any straights in their line of fire? I get that gays have been insulted and assaulted and this is just a little bit of getting even, right?

Now, "breeder" is the lamest insult ever and I"m hardly going to get all that upset if someone were to use that one on me. Makes me wonder though, would bisexuals be "half-breeders"?

He was defending his own use of nigger etc, saying he couldn't say those things(but would like to) I said he could probably bring "breeder" to HR as sexual harassment.

See the problem with words like faggot or Nigger in the mouths of people who aren't those things? Is that those people far too often feel they have the right to do MORE than merely call someone a name.

Sounds like you subscribe to the idea of "word ownership". Word ownership doesn't exist. Both are ugly hateful words and I wonder why anyone feels the need to use them, whether one belongs to the group the words are being used against or not.

If anything the the whole "breeder" thing makes me happy. It shows that oppressed minority groups are as capable of being intolerant just as much anyone else. Of course, seeing the treatment of bisexuals by some gays and lesbians I already knew that.

 

[colddiesel]

Nope, Ami, since you left we don't see Pure to much and we like it that way.

So, If you wouldn't mind, why don't you wander back over to the GB. This has been more or less a political free zone for a while now.

My bolds in quote: Who TxRad, is the we that you speak for? You and Stella perhaps.

I'm surprised you welcome Pure's absence. Although I disagreed with him as much as I disagreed with Amicus, at least he brought some intellectual quality and cogency to argument on this board, which is sadly lacking now we have to rely on yourself and your fellow travellers.

But Ami must be chuckling. His mild return has got what he would call the "usual suspects" jumping to his tune; just like old times.

But a word of advice - Quit the name calling; either argue with Ami or ignore him, name calling makes you look bad, and tends to lend credence to, rather than undermining his arguments.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I wasn't talking about him specifically but the idea of the "breeder" insult being used in general. Do you really think the people that go around calling other people "breeders" are stopping to inquire whether the heteros they're insulting are homophobic or not? Or do you think they just hurling the insults towards any straights in their line of fire? I get that gays have been insulted and assaulted and this is just a little bit of getting even, right?

Now, "breeder" is the lamest insult ever and I"m hardly going to get all that upset if someone were to use that one on me. Makes me wonder though, would bisexuals be "half-breeders"?



Sounds like you subscribe to the idea of "word ownership". Word ownership doesn't exist. Both are ugly hateful words and I wonder why anyone feels the need to use them, whether one belongs to the group the words are being used against or not.

If anything the the whole "breeder" thing makes me happy. It shows that oppressed minority groups are as capable of being intolerant just as much anyone else. Of course, seeing the treatment of bisexuals by some gays and lesbians I already knew that.

Leaving aside your flat statement that "word ownership doesn't exist", you ignored the rest of the sentence;

See the problem with words like faggot or Nigger in the mouths of people who aren't those things? Is that those people far too often feel they have the right to do MORE than merely call someone a name.

I had a scar on my face that took about five years to fade, from a beer can that got thrown at me because I was in the "gay part of town". Me and some men who happened to be walking on the same sidewalk at the same time, we all got attacked. That would have been '02 or so.

And you are absolutely right, being oppressed does not and never has made anyone into a saint. To expect saintly meekness and consideration and niceness is as bigoted in its own way as expecting -- whatever it is that people expect from folk they've demonised.

Humans concern themselves with their self-regard. If they are made to feel less than, they will try to find a defense against that. it's a shame of course if their defense is not up to your high standards or mine, but we can't all be brilliant thinkers, nor will you or I ever be able to change them into such. And yes indeed bisexuals are often held in suspicion by "monosexual" gays and lesbians. Monosexual people really don't understand sexual fluidity, and moreover because of all of those things that hets visit on gays, there's that social distrust.

 

[amicus]

Hiya, Ami. Good to see you. Pure’s on a vacation at the mo, and not often around of late, but he might pop in. I’ll pass on your regards in any case.



Hiya, CD. I’m most flattered you noticed my absence (and didn’t even feel an overwhelming sense of relief!). I’d notice yours, too.

Bored stiff was about right. I think I for one will be back yet, but there’s lying on the beach and stuff to do first. Cheers.

~~~

And a pleasure to see you again, Verdad...thank you, and imagine my surprise when Pure showed up a few Posts on down the page.

I glance at the AH every few days and find nothing of interest and that is sad as I enjoyed years of tete e' tete, enguards with some fine minds, bu t there are a few crackerjacks over on the GB...few if the quality that was once here.

Be well, my friend, wonderful to see you again...

ami

 

[amicus]

Yes, I'm around occasionally and just returned from a vacation in a swing state CO in the heart of the beast.

I loved meeting some real live Republicans who believe "Obamacare" is socialist, etc, that private companies were nationalized, Lenin style, etc.

I hope your health is maintaining. Be Well. I have my own issues there.

And yes, it's too bad some interesting threads have disappeared. I don't think politics has disappeared, but the scope has greatly narrowed. Instead the topic of laws violating private property (and a 100 other areas), it's mainly focussed on laws violating (or affirming) rights of women and of various sexual orientations and lifestyles.

The quest for 'writerly' threads continues; they are always hard to start and hard to find, though I must say JBJ did a lot in this area.

(been writing mainstream stuff, hence the caps!)
best,
pure.

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Ah, there you are, I offer a handshake from afar. One of the nasties on the AH said they were glad you were gone as well as yours truly.

I have internet friends in Colorado and the heat and forest fire situation there has been terrible. A few elections back, COwas never considered a 'swing state' always solidly in the Republican corner...guess the Aspin zillionaires bought enough votes to even things out.

I don't miss the AH, even though it became like family after a few years. I suspect the change came with the change of administrations when the Progressives thought they had it all wrapped up.

You might be amused at a little snippet about the origin of the word, 'capitalism', tis of Marxist origin from Das Kapital as a pejorative and poplurized by the likes of socialist writers, William Makepece Thackeray, Jane Austin and Charles Dickens, all socialist, all anti industrial revolutionists to the core.

The Adam Smith declarative is a free market economy, the natural, unfettered exchange of goods and services between free people...no 'ism' attached, that was KarlMarx and company.

Hey...you did a Lenin, I did a Marx, even up, eh?

Thank you for the empathy about an illness, I trust yours is being managed to at least some satisfaction to you.

I miss Handprints too, I think, from Asia, always with insider financial information on a large scale...he made but rare appearances, but always good ones.

Perhap;s you will glance at the GB once in a while, I am about to preview my recvised 1984 political treatise with a prediction that even if Obama and company lose this election, they will refuse to leave office and give up power.

The reasoning being, this administration was the high water mark for transforming America into a socialist State, but they don't have it quite locked down yet and it might be a hundred years before conditions are ripe for another slide into darkness.

This place cmpares to the north bank bohemians in Paris, if they took over the city and spread the debachery to and fro in broad daylight instead of the dark of night in squalid little corners where it belongs.

Squalid...what a suitable decription of Stella and company...not that you would agree of course, but you will smile as you know all it can do is spit and whine.

Thank you for being here...

ami

 

[amicus]

My bolds in quote: Who TxRad, is the we that you speak for? You and Stella perhaps.

I'm surprised you welcome Pure's absence. Although I disagreed with him as much as I disagreed with Amicus, at least he brought some intellectual quality and cogency to argument on this board, which is sadly lacking now we have to rely on yourself and your fellow travellers.

But Ami must be chuckling. His mild return has got what he would call the "usual suspects" jumping to his tune; just like old times.

But a word of advice - Quit the name calling; either argue with Ami or ignore him, name calling makes you look bad, and tends to lend credence to, rather than undermining his arguments.

~~~

I mentioned elsewhere that I look in on the AH from time to time and it is utterly lifeless . Is it possible this Randian objective free market radical is proof of just how much one individual can do?

There is a line in the film Shooter,with the adorable Kate Mara, where,"Some men think they can make a difference;you have to shoot them to show them they can't" by a US Senator in the movie.

After eight and ahalf years on this forum, a small group of Obama supporfters, wanna be socialists and homosexuals complained and had a Thread of mine moved to the GB. So I left this quagmire of punitivre altruism and hardly noticed it.

But still a shame, that this pissy little cadre of socialists quelled some very scintillating conversaions and true intellectual exchanges which are difficult to find anywhere.

I don't expect to spend much time in either place...five major novels, a hudnred or so shorts, novellas, novelettes, essays and some paid political advertising and consulting.

I want to repeat my expression of pleasure at seeing some of the best to ever write on this forum making an appearance...so very pleased to see that you are all well and kicking...

all t e best....

ami

 

[amicus]

Amicus! I'll be damned! This place has been unimaginably dull since you disappeared. I imagined you'd given up Lit to join the Aryan Brotherhood or worse, shuffled off this mortal coil to join the Libertarians Eternal.

But cursed as I am with congenital liberalism, I can't help but offer my condolences for that detached retina and wish you the best, though I don't know whether you'd understand that sentiment or not.

And no, I haven't seen Pure here for some time.

Looks like election season has arrived at last...

~~~

Ah, Mab, hello and thank you. For some reason, you show up as logging in on my yahoo messenger quite often...I try to think of a way and means to say hello, but never dp/

I am on and off active on the General Board, they, heh, love me there also. been wriing, mostly finsihing old stories, have 25 up now and more on the way.

I think it is sad that the AH has been gutted of all the interesting people who were here, most of them writers who could think outside the 'stroke' 'pornography' and kink, fringe area deviants.

So very interestng people, including yourself that I met and enjoyed over the years, but then, nothing lasts forever, does it?

Thank you for chiming in, perhaps a few of us could start a regular meeting Thread just to keep track of each other? I was told that 'Rumple'lost his vision due to the same malady I have, I hope he has adjusted. Poor vision is really a downer in every thing one tries to do.

All the best to you Mab, and I mean that....

ami

 

[amicus]

There is much more, of course, but I'm curious, Stella. At one point you claimed to have proof, or at least know that Ami was in an ultra conservative role here, while on another site playing a super liberal. If so, all this is performance art. If performance art, why get all riled up? What's up?

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Hello, Jomar,and greetngs to you. Got a row going over on t he GB, wrote a little story to prove a point and decided to look in here tonight.

I wish to state a formal 'thank you' to all my loyal opponents, excepting TxRad and Stella, I have no respect for them at all.

I scrolling back through each comment, I am returning to those I accidentally passed by, or didn't read.

I have said before and I say again, that a writer must be as aware of all things as one can, to build a foundation for accurately portraying his characters. I need to know about the inner workings of a real left wing fanatic, a socialist, a social democrat, and try to learn what their ideology does to their personal character and sexual habits in terms of who or whom they can relate to.

And of course, a forum for amateurs who don't know how to tell a story or publish and sell their work, should, I think, have a small separate location to learn their craft. but there are an arrogant few who are would be Moderators who want only to manage and control those who visit.

I detest the politics of the AH, the little back fence housewives gossip and bs that it has become. I have another sugery soon and after that I hope to plunge into a three or four month writing frenzy and look up and around only once in a while.

Thanks to al the kind writers and friends who stopped by to say hello; it is a plesure to know you.

amicus