Is Obamacare imploding?

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[Sean Renaud]

I'm tired of your sack o' shit arguments about right wing racism. Racism is the hallmark of your party, not ours. Iggy until you no longer post under the influence of mind altering drugs.

LOL. I won't pretend there aren't racists in the Democrat party but really it's practically a prereq to being a Republican. Almost everything you do is inspired by hate. Hate of blacks, hate of mexicans hate of Arabs it's just what you do and it comes so naturally that you don't even think about it.

However I'd like to be the first to welcome Bot to the GB Honor Roll. IT's made up of all the people who address Vette directly to the point where he's forced to put them on iggy because he knows he's making himself look stupid by engaging.

 

[CandiCame]

Please for the love of everything unholy tell me that didn't happen.

I have no idea. It might have. I don't watch Fox News enough to know.

 

[CandiCame]

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I don't get that one. Explain it to me.

 

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[CandiCame]

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I get that one!
But that's been a problem literally my entire life. Companies have always been required to give full time employees benefits. Well, not always, obviously, but my entire lifetime. That's not new. So this one only makes sense with an amount of suspension of disbelief. So it works as a cartoon, but not as satire.

 

[CandiCame]

Plus, if you're working part time at a burger joint you'd undoubtedly qualify for the subsidy.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Easiest way to tell when Vette gets his wrinkled ass handed to him? He puts yet another poster on ignore and starts spamming the thread with stupid political cartoons.
Judging by this reaction we have just witnessed an epic curb stomping.

 

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[Sean]

I thought that with Bill O'Reily that my grandpa used to watch. Until I was corrected.

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[BotanyBoy]

I'm tired of your sack o' shit arguments about right wing racism. Racism is the hallmark of your party, not ours. Iggy until you no longer post under the influence of mind altering drugs.

OMG VETTE IT'S A FACT!!! MASH THAT IGGY AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!
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I SAID WHO'S HOUSE???

MY HOUSE....

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All the way.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Once again the vettebigot counters my factual article with an editorial.

He couldn't refudiate me on the Alaska story, so he moved the goalposts to all exchanges...and then could only find a highly biased Forbes editorial.

Typical Vettefail.

And if Vetty were honest, the only reason he enlisted in the Marines is because the thought of showering with 20 to 30 other men each morning was too exciting to pass up.

Fuck you.....there's coffee everywhere now.

Woof!

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Easiest way to tell when Vette gets his wrinkled ass handed to him? He puts yet another poster on ignore and starts spamming the thread with stupid political cartoons.
Judging by this reaction we have just witnessed an epic curb stomping.

I thought that was AJ?

Or Ish.........

No wait a minute wasn't it Miles?

Ok perhaps you're right

Woof!

 

[Liar]

Please for the love of everything unholy tell me that didn't happen.

The meteor thing?

IIRC, it was a batshit crazy Russian duma member who floated that theory in Russian fringe media.

Yep, they have their own Louie Gohmert over there.

In Fox's defense, they were pretty much just laughing at the silly Ruski.

That time.

 

[lovecraft68]

Plus, if you're working part time at a burger joint you'd undoubtedly qualify for the subsidy.

But that subsidy does not pay the rent.

That's the thing you're taking a job that already pays squat and now you're losing a third of that squat.

Of course the idiots should have seen that coming and passed some laws in advance to protect workers from this happening,

But let's face it this whole thing is not intended for people who work, now is it?

 

[Sean Renaud]

The problem being there is no evidence that companies are going part time in any large amounts due to Obamacare. There are examples here and there but the trend started before Obamacare and has been going down in recent months anyway.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The former office pogue, doesn't know that if a large part of that pool is being transferred to Medicaid, Obamacare fails.

Nope, it simply means the government is paying the person's premiums.

The fact that you seem unwilling or unable to admit (prolly because it is in conflict with Teh Narrative™) is that the larger number of people in an insurance pool, the lower average cost per person.

It's Insurance 101, you stupid son of a bitch.

 

[CandiCame]

But that subsidy does not pay the rent.

That's the thing you're taking a job that already pays squat and now you're losing a third of that squat.

Of course the idiots should have seen that coming and passed some laws in advance to protect workers from this happening,

But let's face it this whole thing is not intended for people who work, now is it?

Of course it was intended for people who work; most companies don't offer decent insurance and this forces them to. And Sean says that there are isolated incidents of companies cutting people's time because of Obamacare, but I've never seen a single incident of it. Companies have never wanted to pay benefits. Kroger would work me 39.5 hours five years ago, well before Obamacare was a thing. I just wonder why you think it has any influence over employee hours.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The problem being there is no evidence that companies are going part time in any large amounts due to Obamacare. There are examples here and there but the trend started before Obamacare and has been going down in recent months anyway.

Actually Forbes magazine proved that Obamacare was NOT responsible for workers being moved to part time status.

Of course, this runs counter to the RWCJ narrative, so we'll never hear a peep out of the usual suspects.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

But that subsidy does not pay the rent.

That's the thing you're taking a job that already pays squat and now you're losing a third of that squat.

Of course the idiots should have seen that coming and passed some laws in advance to protect workers from this happening,

But let's face it this whole thing is not intended for people who work, now is it?

Absolute horseshit.

It made subsidized...little to no cost health insurance...available to the working poor.

 

[CandiCame]

Ya dumb buttfuck, the whole thing hinges on younger people enrolling to support the costs, which isn't happening.

Except in the really real world. Where it is.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Actually Forbes magazine proved that Obamacare was NOT responsible for workers being moved to part time status.

Of course, this runs counter to the RWCJ narrative, so we'll never hear a peep out of the usual suspects.

I've read enough reports saying that it isn't responsible that I buy it but enough saying that it's impossible to know why it's happening at this stage one way or the other so I can grant benefit of the doubt and say that it's currently inconclusive.

If it was proven however I'd be perfectly happy with lowering the amount of hours required for full time work. Just because businesses don't want to pay doesn't mean we have to let them get away with that shit.

Ya dumb buttfuck, the whole thing hinges on younger people enrolling to support the costs, which isn't happening.

We don't know that yet, it's been exactly one month and young folk aren't exactly known for jumping into line for just about anything. Relax.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Ya dumb buttfuck, the whole thing hinges on younger people enrolling to support the costs, which isn't happening.

Well maybe if your high and mighty generation of perfection, back when men were men and giants walked the earth, had a little PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY that wouldn't be the case and none of this would be happening now would it?


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[Adre]

Here's a fun fact: 96% of the registered businesses in the US have fewer than 50 employees and so can't be touched by the employer mandate of Obamacare. And, more than 90% of those above that already offer employee health insurance. Oh, my! Facts!