Is Obamacare imploding?

[RobDownSouth]

Because it's the truth. The State of Alaska has suspended its site after only three people signed up. Most of those signing up are being transferred to Medicaid, not young people.

Typical Vettebigot falsehood. The private company that created the Alaska exchange site suspended the site to fix an error that was incorrectly calculating the Alaskan subsidy.

The rules are different for folks in Alaska owing to so many "Native American" subprograms.

Once again, Vettebigot brings disgrace and dishonor upon himself, his family, and the United States Marine Corps. He has no honor.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

No liberal was named so as of this point, I don't know either of them.

Edit: Savage is a cool name tho.

"Savage" was his stage name. His real name was "Weiner"....I kid you not.

 

[contrifan32]

Why do people on this board keep saying that? Young people totally are flocking to sign up, by web, by phone and even on paper. Paper from tress. Do you know how bad we have to want something to send it in snail-mail?

Do you really think that young healthy working people are going to sign up for a product that they don't think they need. If they have insurance how long do you think they will support this train wreck when they see the cost of their plans increasing to pay for all those pre existing conditions, the poor and old. What incentive do they have knowing that they (and their eventual children) will also be saddled with this countries increasing debt problem

Could it be that the Republicans now have that elusive campaign topic they have been looking for to tap into the 20 something votes?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Right, because your generation didn't need to drafted to join the military. You guys weren't EVEN motivated by money so you were either cowards or simply too smart to fight a war that didn't involve you. Either way yeah it takes a lot to keep people signed up for military service.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Do you really think that young healthy working people are going to sign up for a product that they don't think they need. If they have insurance how long do you think they will support this train wreck when they see the cost of their plans increasing to pay for all those pre existing conditions, the poor and old. What incentive do they have knowing that they (and their eventual children) will also be saddled with this countries increasing debt problem

Could it be that the Republicans now have that elusive campaign topic they have been looking for to tap into the 20 something votes?

Larger insurance pools = Lower average cost per person.

And most people follow the law. I do realize, however, that Tea Party types regard laws as "advisory in nature".

 

[contrifan32]

Larger insurance pools = Lower average cost per person.

And most people follow the law. I do realize, however, that Tea Party types regard laws as "advisory in nature".

You know thats the farce because the insurance pools are growing much larger with takers and not contributors.

 

[CandiCame]

Do you really think that young healthy working people are going to sign up for a product that they don't think they need. If they have insurance how long do you think they will support this train wreck when they see the cost of their plans increasing to pay for all those pre existing conditions, the poor and old. What incentive do they have knowing that they (and their eventual children) will also be saddled with this countries increasing debt problem

Could it be that the Republicans now have that elusive campaign topic they have been looking for to tap into the 20 something votes?

Speaking as a working 20-something who primarily socializes with working 20-somethings; yes. Yes we totally are. Company insurance is usually Humana or something equally as shitty. We tend, statistically, not to be happy with our insurance. Especially if we're young people starting families. Plus, ACA is generally cheaper and better than company policies. My state actually leads the country in sign-ups right now.

 

[CandiCame]

You know thats the farce because the insurance pools are growing much larger with takers and not contributors.

Everyone is a contributor, the government just pays a portion of the poor's. The same way that people who use foodstamps are still buying food, still giving money to the store.

 

[contrifan32]

Everyone is a contributor, the government just pays a portion of the poor's. The same way that people who use foodstamps are still buying food, still giving money to the store.

Wait... you are kidding with me..right?

 

[julybaby04]

You’ve already been given many examples of things that you and all the rest of your citizens HAVE to contribute towards regardless of whether you use them or even agree with them or not.

And paying taxes isn’t the price you pay for goods used, it is your contribution as a member of your society to your society to allow it to function in a way that benefits all members in it to varying degrees, decided by those members of it.



You do not have an overbearing government who has imposed this by fiat; you have a government who was elected by the majority of the United States with this as one of its election planks. The whole policy has gone through the legal process and is now law, fact.

For a minority now seek to impose their will by subverting the law and the will of the people is tyranny.

Woof!

Laws have been and can be overturned.

 

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[CandiCame]

Wait... you are kidding with me..right?

What do you mean?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wait... you are kidding with me..right?

That is how reality functions you know. Being a taker doesn't negate you as a contributer especially not in the long run.

 

[CandiCame]

How the fuck is California- the state of movie stars; got more people signed up than us- the state of Rednecks? WTF?

 

[Sean Renaud]

We have way more people than you and we aren't all or even mostly movie stars.

 

[BotanyBoy]

sounds to me like you are for a flat tax, everyone pays their fair share, I agree

Flat tax is fair? Because taking 1/3 of a guys income who makes 40k a year is the same as taking 1/3 of the guy's income who make 40 million....you seriously think it would be fair to tax them at the same rate?

To live in a society and pay taxes to take care of things that are used by all of the citizens is expected.

To have an over-bearing government decide that only "their" military is best and it MUST be purchased or else citizens will be punished is not a free society.

People have been....and (up until obamcare) could always purchase any private security they chose which was best for their family and which they could afford. Most people did.

That right has been taken away. Citizens are now being forced to buy an "approved" US Military with a Navy, Army, Chair Force and Marine Corps..... whether the families can afford it or not.

That is not freedom.....and that is not how the United States society works.

Exact same argument........see how silly you guys all look.

Yes it's better your collar be shackled and chained like a slave than mine any day. I totally agree. Your freedom, what's left of it, was bought and paid for long ago by better men who paid their own way in life.

That was your generation and news flash, you didn't earn shit on your own....you cock suckers straight ROBBED your own kids and grandkids and it was all for pure greed.

Better men? HAHAHA you will be remembered as the scum bag generation that fucked America .....you already are.

America was founded on the shoulders of giants, we now see an onslaught of midgets who'd rather be slaves than men. Enjoy.

And you're trying to tell us those "Giants" didn't have to follow laws that they may or may not have appreciated?? Seriously???

You're full of shit....just like when you said Merikuh' had the best healthcare in the world up until last month, you were a fucking liar then too, that's why you backed out of that after I triple dog dared you to support it with anything other than an opinion.

When did Vetteman go librul?

Last night he straight out advocated socialism. I mean he was trying to be all "Military!! Murikuh!!!" but it was advocating socialism.

PS: If the rest of you assholes had to pay for your own national defense you wouldn't be able to afford what you do have. If we go down, you'll be speaking Chinese a hell of a lot sooner than we will.

Member kids, socialism for military is ok...socialism to help your neighbor out is evil pinko bullshit. - vette!!

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=50366889&postcount=1274

 

[koalabear]

]Larger insurance pools = Lower average cost per person.[/B]

And most people follow the law. I do realize, however, that Tea Party types regard laws as "advisory in nature".

To bad obamacare doesn't work like that, isn't it Fatty.

 

[Ishmael]

Everyone is a contributor, the government just pays a portion of the poor's. The same way that people who use foodstamps are still buying food, still giving money to the store.

Get a clue. You're in finance of some sort?????????

The government doesn't pay shit. The government has NO money to pay shit. It produces nothing. Every single penny the government has has come from a taxpayer somewhere.

Ishmael

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

No liberal was named so as of this point, I don't know either of them.

Edit: Savage is a cool name tho.

He thought so too. That's why he didn't go by his given name, Weiner. It didn't keep him from being a seen as the psychotic crackpot he is.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Get a clue. You're in finance of some sort?????????

The government doesn't pay shit. The government has NO money to pay shit. It produces nothing. Every single penny the government has has come from a taxpayer somewhere.

Ishmael

Right. That's an incredibly simplistic line of bullshit you spewed right there.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You know thats the farce because the insurance pools are growing much larger with takers and not contributors.

Oh, there's no doubt whatsoever that the sickest folks who were previously judged unworthy by the failed capitalistic system would be the first to sign up.

...and conversely, the healthiest folks will likely wait until the last possible moment to obey the law and sign up, because they're invincible and shit.

It's important to remember that something like 85% of all Americans don't need to do a thing, because nothing will change for them.

People like you, though, will always focus on the outliers and anecdotes.

 

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[CandiCame]

We have way more people than you and we aren't all or even mostly movie stars.

Don't destroy my fantasy, Sean. It isn't fair.

 

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