is it a form of child abuse?

[rae121452]

say you're the parent of a small child. you refuse to get them vaccinated for covid because you're afraid that the vaccine will, say, turn them into a democrat. so your brat gets covid and dies or else has long term health problems. does that constitute child neglect, if the vaccine is freely available? i've seen parents prosecuted for a whole lot less.

 

[GothTalk]

No and cite someone prosecuted for not abusing their kidz in accordance with the way your favored political parties fee fees are running at the time?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Not child abuse.

 

[rae121452]

No and cite someone prosecuted for not abusing their kidz in accordance with the way your favored political parties fee fees are running at the time?

please translate into english

 

[oggbashan]

In the UK, only children aged 12 and over can currently get vaccinated. They have to have the consent of the parent AND the child.

The take-up of boosters is slow because so few 12 to 18 year-olds have had their second jab long enough ago to have the booster yet.

 

[GothTalk]

please translate into english

It is in English, what part are you struggling with?

I help primay school drop-outs all the time.

 

[rae121452]

another scenario: say cited brat above gets covid and has long-term health problems that they carry into adulthood. could grown up brat sue parents for not allowing it to have the free vaccine?

 

[LittleDixie]

say you're the parent of a small child. you refuse to get them vaccinated for covid because you're afraid that the vaccine will, say, turn them into a democrat. so your brat gets covid and dies or else has long term health problems. does that constitute child neglect, if the vaccine is freely available? i've seen parents prosecuted for a whole lot less.

I would say that it is arguable. I think it would all come down to "does the parent have a reasonable argument against getting the vaccine?" and "does the virus pose a significant threat to the child?"

I can think of a few reasonable arguments against getting the vaccine. I think it's also clear that this virus poses a very very small risk to children.

So, in this case, I would say no, it is not child neglect or abuse.

 

[GothTalk]

another scenario: say cited brat above gets covid and has long-term health problems that they carry into adulthood. could grown up brat sue parents for not allowing it to have the free vaccine?

Anyone can sue for pretty much anything.

So what?

 

[Dribble]

In the eye of the legal system...children...are property. Your pets have more rights.

 

[oggbashan]

In the eye of the legal system...children...are property. Your pets have more rights.

Maybe in the US. NOT in the UK. The various Children's Acts protect children from abuse by their parents- in theory. In practice, abusive parents can delude social workers and the Police until something disastrous happens. Then the public blames the authorities when it is the parents that caused the damage to the child. Social workers and police cannot protect every child, especially if the parents are determined to lie, cheat and obstruct until it is too late.

 

[butters]

say you're the parent of a small child. you refuse to get them vaccinated for covid because you're afraid that the vaccine will, say, turn them into a democrat. so your brat gets covid and dies or else has long term health problems. does that constitute child neglect, if the vaccine is freely available? i've seen parents prosecuted for a whole lot less.

in my eyes, it is most certainly neglectful. When the right information is out there all the time, from scientists around the globe, and presented regularly by credible doctors, nurses and scientists whose lives have been dedicated to the field of virology and epidemiology, but–through choice–the parent has decided to believe the fb crazies/the mtgs/fox news of the world, stupidity can only go so far in excusing them.

However, some of the blame...a LOT of the blame...HAS to be laid at the doors of those in power, with big bullhorns, who are refusing to tell the more gullible public the truth. Fox News is accountable. So many top republicans are, for not openly declaring their vaccine status and its benefits, for not decrying the dangerous bullshit of gaetz and greene and the anti-vaxx mentality.

 

[jaF0]

Bringing a kid into this hell of a world is child abuse, yes.


Adults that do so should be severely punished.


No more people.

 

[HisArpy]

Catching Covid is an Act of God. Being vaxxed will not prevent anyone from catching the virus. And, while most who are vaxxed will survive, some will not despite the touted effectiveness of the jab.

Because catching Covid is an Act of God.

Which sort of tells you that refusing the let your kid get vaxxed isn't "child abuse." OTOH, the possible death of that child AFTER being vaxxed and in light of the data available (and still emerging) just might be child abuse. Because if the brat dies, then someone needs to be held responsible. And, given the current state of immunity for the Gov and the entire medical community over the vax, that only leaves the parents as the ones culpable.

They either knew or should have known...

 

[jaF0]

Catching Covid is an Act of God.

Your side says the Chinese created it. Are you saying China is God?

 

[HisArpy]

Your side says the Chinese created it. Are you saying China is God?

Tsk, tsk... such a lame attempt to project what wasn't said.


I SAID:

Catching Covid is an Act of God.

As for the "my side" jab, lol. Right now there's a distinct possibility that FAUCI's illegal "gain of function" trickery and funding game created it. By extension, since Fauci was Trump's front man, that means you're actually implying that "Trump is God." Good one!

 

[JohnnySavage]

More long term health effects from letting the snot blowers get fat, and smoking around them.

Those parents should be in jail.

 

[mayfly13]

I know of quite a few parents (of children under 5) who are really freaked out about the vaccine.

Given that covid infections were said to be milder in the young
the vaccine is new with with no longitudinal studies
and it doesn't offer long-term protection,

AND the bizarre increase in autism in developed countries

some just don't want to vaccinate their kids.

 

[Rotadom]

More long term health effects from letting the snot blowers get fat, and smoking around them.

Those parents should be in jail.

lol Yeah because there are decades of studies of long-term effects of the vaccines.

 

[pearldiver69]

Catching Covid is an Act of God. Being vaxxed will not prevent anyone from catching the virus. And, while most who are vaxxed will survive, some will not despite the touted effectiveness of the jab.

Because catching Covid is an Act of God.

Which sort of tells you that refusing the let your kid get vaxxed isn't "child abuse." OTOH, the possible death of that child AFTER being vaxxed and in light of the data available (and still emerging) just might be child abuse. Because if the brat dies, then someone needs to be held responsible. And, given the current state of immunity for the Gov and the entire medical community over the vax, that only leaves the parents as the ones culpable.

They either knew or should have known...

Believe me, I absolutely DID NOT hit the "like" response intentionally.

 

[pecksniff]

Catching Covid is an Act of God. Being vaxxed will not prevent anyone from catching the virus. And, while most who are vaxxed will survive, some will not despite the touted effectiveness of the jab.

A vaxxed person has a better chance than an unvaxxed both of surviving the disease and of not suffering long-term damage from it.

 

[phrodeau]

Valid reasons for not getting vaccinated:

1. Your doctor says that you shouldn’t get vaccinated.

2. ?

 

[Wrong Element]

Leaving Covid aside, withholding vaccines from children has been a growing movement in the United States for some time, thanks to parents whose own parents were fortunate enough to live through various measles and polio outbreaks, now (but maybe not forever?) eliminated by vaccines.

 

[pecksniff]

Bringing a kid into this hell of a world is child abuse, yes.


Adults that do so should be severely punished.

They are, they are.