This is...evidence of your sensitivity and good judgment?
I never claimed either. I'm insensitive, and I hope that it will spread to others. "Sensitivity" is a euphemism for "political correctness".
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This is...evidence of your sensitivity and good judgment?
That's fair.
What I find distasteful is the double standard; KRC says racist stuff all the time, and no one ever makes threads to bitch at her. I'm just the low-hanging fruit. I don't mind that, but I'd rather everyone just admit to it.
*peeks into the thread*
I just want to say, that this is the angriest, angstiest thread in the whole of the Lit Kingdom. And that is from all sides. We're lingering into the "if I make my posts longer it makes them more meaningful" phase of internet arguing.
I just want to ask what the point is? What have people achieved other than pointing at the racist joke debate, highlighting both sides and not coming to a conclusion?
I know why I get negative reactions, but I don't agree with them.
KRC has been here long enough that most (including me) have her on ignore and have either had this conversation with her and don't have anything else to say.
You are relatively new and still asking what I consider to be genuine questions. I don't think you're a troll, I just think you genuinely believe in yourself and your point of view...but in the greater social scale, your point of view doesn't mean shit next to you shoving racism and stereotype in people's faces and then asking THEM what the problem is.
You're poking at soft, tender spots in people's psyches and then demanding that they toughen up like you, and it's just going to get to the point where people stop having this conversation with you and ignore you as unable to learn.
So then stop asking to have it explained to you. It's been explained and you either change your behavior or stop asking why. People disagree with you and have good reasons for doing so.
I never said I wasn't, and I don't blame anyone for disliking me or ignoring me for any of the things I've said. That's up to them.
Can I play devils advocate (I'm not just going to fuck off because someone can use those two words).
1) Being racist is wrong
2) Telling people to act a certain way is wrong
3) Telling people they can be and do what they like, whilst enforcing point two, is hypocritical.
Surely this debate isn't as cut and dry as just saying, "well the jokes are dumb go away"; surely it's about respect. If you say something that upsets someone specifically, you stop.
But that doesn't mean you can't continue doing those things with the people that aren't offended... it's all a matter of respecting each others personal areas of understanding, which albeit is hard on a public forum everyone can share.
And in regards to more meaningful threads, that isn't my point, my point is this was supposed to be a debate as to whether someone is cruel and has instead become just pointing at the guy and yelling he's a piece of shit, which is just as bad as yelling racist jokes?
Now that is bullshit.
I have seen you get angry and perseverate on the same subject and then do it all over again and say you're not sensitive, but you get worked up just as much as other people and angry at them for ignoring you for not having a "good reason" to do so.
You provide people with good reasons. You don't start with respect. You earn it. If you behave like a jackass, prepare to be treated like one. You're not the good hearted fool, you're a source of irritation and people are justified in not dealing with your crap when you ask dumb questions and then don't listen to the answers.
Okay, well, if the only important thing is that you amuse yourself at everybody else's expense, get ready to be the only one laughing, except, of course for the assholes that like watching other people be humiliated.
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I never claimed either. I'm insensitive, and I hope that it will spread to others. "Sensitivity" is a euphemism for "political correctness".
Awww poor baby. Did someone get his invisible knapsack of privilege caught on a nail and ripped open recently, spilling out his entitlement of association excuses on the ground?
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AWWWWWW.
(fucker is so weak playing his sweating-my-fail shit off, I can just recycle the previous bitch slap instead of making a new one)
It won't spread to me. I maintain my sensitivity with pride in its utility and necessity in warning me not to piss off other people for the benefit of a cheap laugh and some attention.
You're falling for a false analogy. You think you're spreading some sort of inoculation in the hopes that other people will develop immunity. But you're not truly immune, you're just a carrier of the disease and you're spreading it under some flimsy justification. Insensitivity to the feelings, history and personal identity of others is not political correctness, it's basic manners and has the side effect of not making you a pariah.
Think about it. Is a joke and you getting a thread moving worth hurting someone else's feelings and insulting their ancestry and home? If so, your priorities are bass-ackwards.
Can I play devils advocate (I'm not just going to fuck off because someone can use those two words).
1) Being racist is wrong
2) Telling people to act a certain way is wrong
3) Telling people they can be and do what they like, whilst enforcing point two, is hypocritical.
Surely this debate isn't as cut and dry as just saying, "well the jokes are dumb go away"; surely it's about respect. If you say something that upsets someone specifically, you stop.
But that doesn't mean you can't continue doing those things with the people that aren't offended... it's all a matter of respecting each others personal areas of understanding, which albeit is hard on a public forum everyone can share.
And in regards to more meaningful threads, that isn't my point, my point is this was supposed to be a debate as to whether someone is cruel and has instead become just pointing at the guy and yelling he's a piece of shit, which is just as bad as yelling racist jokes?
Reci is the voice of reason.
I like her.
1. Yes.
2. No. Telling them a comparative way to act compared to how they act is fine. Forcing them is wrong.
3. The analogy breaks down if we're talking about just talking versus forcing. People here can ignore.
Everybody has the tools to ignore blob. I'd rather that if he wanted to stay here and talk, that he understands why people who put him on ignore are going to stay that way and he's losing a potential audience for more intelligent conversation, which he's capable of carrying on. I think he has options. Whether or not he takes them is up to step 2.
Yeah, I can be unoriginal sometimes, too.
Reci is the voice of reason.
I like her.