Is a story about a too-violent tomorrow also too violent?

[Mamateya]

Say I write a story where the protagonist is going to die horribly tomorrow in a way that is definitely too violent for Literotica. However, that's happening tomorrow. Today, nothing violent happens. The story focuses on what the protagonist does today, and has fear, impending doom, and mortality as themes. It cuts out just as the clock hits midnight.

Is such a story still too violent for Literotica?

 

[ElectricBlue]

Say I write a story where the protagonist is going to die horribly tomorrow in a way that is definitely too violent for Literotica. However, that's happening tomorrow. Today, nothing violent happens. The story focuses on what the protagonist does today, and has fear, impending doom, and mortality as themes. It cuts out just as the clock hits midnight.

Is such a story still too violent for Literotica?

Not if there's no "tomorrow" violence in the story. Even so, unless it's snuff or gratuitous sexual violence, there's no prohibition against violence in stories here on Lit.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

I'd go along with EB66 - unless there is a detailed description of the process he is facing tomorrow. Just saying, for instance, that he is going to be burned at the stake tomorrow would pass, IMO, but talking about hair burning, skin blistering, etc would probably be a problem.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

I'd go along with EB66 - unless there is a detailed description of the process he is facing tomorrow. Just saying, for instance, that he is going to be burned at the stake tomorrow would pass, IMO, but talking about hair burning, skin blistering, etc would probably be a problem.

What if it’s a terrible accident they were the victim of and you’re just describing what has happened?

Just asking for a friend who’s doing an erotic version of HOT FUZZ for the Group Sex category.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

Dear Emily, We're getting well and truly into Damfino territory, right? Above all, the site is Laurel's and the rules are hers and the final decision is hers. The what-ifs and hypotheticals are all well and good, but when one gets this close to the wire, I always suggest that the OP send Laurel a PM to discuss things in advance. Good luck to your friend.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

Dear Emily, We're getting well and truly into Damfino territory, right? Above all, the site is Laurel's and the rules are hers and the final decision is hers. The what-ifs and hypotheticals are all well and good, but when one gets this close to the wire, I always suggest that the OP send Laurel a PM to discuss things in advance. Good luck to your friend.

Fair enough.

I’ll tell “my friend” to get it ready and send it all in for advice.

Thanks.

 

[Bramblethorn]

What if it’s a terrible accident they were the victim of and you’re just describing what has happened?

Just asking for a friend who’s doing an erotic version of HOT FUZZ for the Group Sex category.

Official vocab guidelines state we no longer refer to these incidents as "accidents".

 

[KeithD]

Dear Emily, We're getting well and truly into Damfino territory, right? Above all, the site is Laurel's and the rules are hers and the final decision is hers. The what-ifs and hypotheticals are all well and good, but when one gets this close to the wire, I always suggest that the OP send Laurel a PM to discuss things in advance. Good luck to your friend.

Or you could just write the story as you want it and submit it. You can always adjust it later and Laurel doesn't really have the time to "what if" unwritten proposals if the rest of us would like to see our stories posted in a timely manner.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

Official vocab guidelines state we no longer refer to these incidents as "accidents".

I think you will love it.

It’s all part of the greater good.

If it gets past the censors.

 

[Bubo_bubo]

I think you will love it.

It’s all part of the greater good.

If it gets past the censors.

Emilymcplugger - Well-Intentioned Sextremist.

(for reference https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WellIntentionedExtremist)

 

[TheRedChamber]

Say I write a story where the protagonist is going to die horribly tomorrow in a way that is definitely too violent for Literotica. However, that's happening tomorrow. Today, nothing violent happens. The story focuses on what the protagonist does today, and has fear, impending doom, and mortality as themes. It cuts out just as the clock hits midnight.

Is such a story still too violent for Literotica?

Setting an event in the future isn't going to be a 'get-out-of-jail-free' card. For example, if you wrote a story that started:

The fortune teller looking closely into her ball. "Tomorrow you will meet a beautiful girl, one day before her eighteenth birthday. Let me tell you of the sexy sexy things you will do together that day..."

Then that story is getting bounced, for sure.

Violence is a bit more difficult because there's no hard line. There's a matter of how much description you go into. Being hung,drawn, and quartered is one of the most unpleasant things that can happen to a person, but just writing "I was going to be hung,drawn and quartered tomorrow" isn't going to get a second glance. Writing ten paragraphs about the process might. In addition if the process is sexualized in any way (someone pleasuring themselves during the process or a focus on how the sexual organs are getting cut up) then that's moving into definite no terratory.

Setting the story prior to the event helps with 'distancing' the event, but if, as part of their fear, the MC is thinking in detail about whats going to happen and there's also erotic stuff going on nearby, it might be a problem.

 

[RetroFan]

This thread made me think up some good ideas for fiction incorporating real-life historical events. As just some examples:

1912 - A young honeymoon couple on the Titanic retire early on the cold Sunday night and enjoy themselves, before drifting off to sleep after saying to each other they would see each other in the morning.
1937 - With the Hindenburg's mooring at Lakehurst delayed due to deteriorating weather conditions that afternoon, a young male crew member is tempted into a quick session of fun with a pretty 18-year-old heiress, the daughter of a prominent aristocratic German family.
2001 - A young woman from New York has the day off work on September 10, and she and her boyfriend have a great day together. However she has to leave early for work on Tuesday for an important meeting at her company high up in the WTC North Tower.

 

[Mamateya]

Yeah, I think my concept won't work. I need to describe in detail what's happening tomorrow, since it illustrates why it's so serious and why the protagonist is so concerned about it. One might think it's obvious - the protagonist is dying tomorrow, their impending death has to be overshadowing their thoughts - but the word count needs to be there for appropriate emphasis/weightage. Oh well.

@RetroFan we're thinking of different concepts unfortunately. In my case the protagonist knows they are dying tomorrow, which is why they are frantic today. In what you've described, the protagonists don't know they're dying; they can do things like "drift off to sleep" in relative peace.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Yeah, I think my concept won't work. I need to describe in detail what's happening tomorrow, since it illustrates why it's so serious and why the protagonist is so concerned about it. One might think it's obvious - the protagonist is dying tomorrow, their impending death has to be overshadowing their thoughts - but the word count needs to be there for appropriate emphasis/weightage. Oh well.

Are you proposing sexual or gratuitous violence with regard to the death portent? You've not been clear about that. As noted above, there's no prohibition on violence as such, unless it's sexual or gratuitous (i.e.: excessive).

 

[Mamateya]

Certainly not for the protagonist. They're dying horribly after all. For the agent inflicting the death - which is a supernatural entity with unclear motives - the answer is "maybe" (their motives and motivations are uncertain), but I doubt that's going to save the story.

For illustration, take the story "Waiting for Purple", where a supernatural entity with unclear motives kidnaps people and makes them have sex with each other. In my concept story, the supernatural entity kidnaps people and tells them how they are going to die tomorrow, then releases them.

 

[lovecraft68]

Make a woman a victim of the violence and put it into Loving wives, anything goes there as long as it happens to a woman.