Iraq agrees to accept weapons inspections without condition

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Get rid of ambiguity, and things get done.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Who's up for a lit office pool?

I say it's 3 weeks before they start stonewalling the inspectors again.

Do I hear two weeks?

 

[Johnny Cool]

I'll do you one better. 20$ says no Weapon Inspector sets foot in Iraq.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

I'll take those bets.

The two of you can go sit with my wife who bet me we wouldn't take Kabul by Xmas.

 

[Guest]

That reminds me.

Dixon, you still owe me $10.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

For what, you jive turkey?

 

[LadyG]

Okay, explain this one. The weapons inspectors go in and look where? At the weapon's manufacturing plants?

Seriously, unless they searched the entire country inch by inch,they certainly aren't going to find them in the "usual" factories and plants.

 

[HeavyStick]

10 days

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Okay, explain this one. The weapons inspectors go in and look where? At the weapon's manufacturing plants?

Seriously, unless they searched the entire country inch by inch,they certainly aren't going to find them in the "usual" factories and plants.

First of all, intelligence reports say "mobile" factories are a myth.

Secondly, the inspectors didn't know much about where things were last time, and they found a TON O' FUN.

No one expects to find everything. But ordinance, in large amounts will be found.

 

[LadyG]

Okay, thanks for that, but does that mean they will search the entire country?

And if weapons are found, then what? Sanctions against Iraq?

 

[floridaguy64]

Okay, thanks for that, but does that mean they will search the entire country?

And if weapons are found, then what? Sanctions against Iraq?

My point exactly for being so vehemently anti Iraq on this issue. Saddam would never have given in just this tiny bit if he hadn't already stashed his major stock of NBC materials.

He might give up a token amount of conventionals, but I'd lay odds that "IF" inspectors found any real amount of NBC material, he'd start killing them off in rather short order.

My bet would have to be less than a week..... expulsion in short order, he'll have a whole lot of hostages, or he'll just go completely beserk and start killing again.

 

[Spinaroonie]

My point exactly for being so vehemently anti Iraq on this issue. Saddam would never have given in just this tiny bit if he hadn't already stashed his major stock of NBC materials.

I have a massive supply of NBC materials but nobody inspects mine.

Guess nobody's as big of a Conan O'Brian fan as I am.

 

[floridaguy64]

I have a massive supply of NBC materials but nobody inspects mine.

Guess nobody's as big of a Conan O'Brian fan as I am.

Nuclear, Biological, Chemical... NBC... standard nomenclature.

He Has 'em, and is just dying to use them.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Nuclear, Biological, Chemical... NBC... standard nomenclature.

He Has 'em, and is just dying to use them.

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[nasty1]

No one expects to find everything. But ordinance, in large amounts will be found. [/QUOTE Yes, large amounts will be found, but, until you get rid of ALL nukes, you're still in a heap of trouble, buddy.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Thanks, buddy, but the resolution is that ALL weapons and ordinance be destroyed before sanctions can be lifted, which gives the world body a right to be in Iraq, watching, destroying evidence, for a long, long time. It's hard to build a delivery system with that kind of scrutiny. Inspections, Watchdogging and Sanctions will keep Iraq in check, even if they have a nuke buried under the sand. So the "heap" is pretty small.

And, yes, they can go anywhere in the country, at any time they want. With that kind of access before they found and destroyed a hell of a lot of ordinance. When Iraq finally said, "No you can't look under the sink" the inspectors were pulled out and missles came in. Which is what will happen again, and worse, if they try to restrict the movements of the inspectors again.

 

[Problem Child]

....Xmas.

In my mind's eye you just moved into a single-wide mobile home out in San Bernardino county. The mangy pit bull in your hard-dirt front yard is chained to a concrete-filled tire.

You wear beer-stained tee shirts and cockroaches scuttle across your kitchen counter when the lights are flipped on.

Your nearest neighbor operates a meth lab in his garage and deals in illegal firearms.

 

[someplace]

Why should anyone think THIS time Iraq would treat the weapons inspectors any differently than they did last time? Did anyone ever see the interviews with the guy who headed up the inspections following their explusion? He was one extremely frustrated man after all the shenanagans the Iraquis pulled to keep the inspectors from doing their job.

In my view, this latest tatic is purely stall stall stall by the Iraq government.

 

[Unclebill]

A bit too optimistic, perhaps . . .

What does without condition mean?

And the Arab League's ambassador to London, Ali Muhsen Hamid, gave the first indication that the inspectors might not be allowed the unfettered access required when he said they could inspect only "military sites".

For the full article (it's short), see: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=699123&in_review_text_id=672203

 

[LovetoGiveRoses]

In my view, this latest tatic is purely stall stall stall by the Iraq government.

It's a stall, but it's also a step in the right direction. There are other UN resolutions that he's ignoring still also. We'll see, if the UN decides to bring their bat with them, they may get more cooperation, after all, he's reacted to force threats already by conceding to the inspections.

We'll see, there are more options ahead.

 

[nasty1]

Last night, I was watching Headline News, and, we've caught pictures of Saddam & goons moving misslies to God knows where.. So, I still don't feel totally safe.

 

[HeavyStick]

Last night, I was watching Headline News, and, we've caught pictures of Saddam & goons moving misslies to God knows where.. So, I still don't feel totally safe.

up to date satelite imagery is the one of the few reliable tools we can use. Anyone can say this footage is from here and this is what it is doing.

 

[gotdatmony]

IF....... they get in...it will be to inspect their..."Baby Food" factory......led by Mr. Ritter himself

 

[REDWAVE]

The voice of sanity

Well, I guess there should be one small voice of sanity in this otherwise dismal wasteland of a thread. Enforcing UN resolutions is of course blatant hypocrisy. Israel has defied plenty of UN resolutions, and the U.S. rewards it with military aid. For that matter, Reagan defied the World Court judgment against the U.S. for mining Micaragua's harbors. The U.S. government invokes international law when it's convenient; ignores it when that suits its interests.

What this is really all about, of course, is controlling the vast oil reserves of the Middle East and U.S. global hegemony.

 

[HeavyStick]

Re: The voice of sanity

Well, I guess there should be one small voice of sanity in this otherwise dismal wasteland of a thread. You're an idiot

Enforcing UN resolutions is of course blatant hypocrisy. Israel has defied plenty of UN resolutions, and the U.S. rewards it with military aid. For that matter, Reagan defied the World Court judgment against the U.S. for mining Micaragua's harbors. The U.S. government invokes international law when it's convenient; ignores it when that suits its interests.

What this is really all about, of course, is controlling the vast oil reserves of the Middle East and U.S. global hegemony.