intelligent, truly literate erotica

[coaster12345]

for those who appreciate well written, truly literate erotica, especially of the "loving wives" "group sex"or "swinging" genres, this is a plea to get behind the writers you admire. vote them up: the higher they score, the more they are read,, the more likely they'll be to post again--- and to encourage other good new writers to post here. spread the word: tell others who similarly appreciate good writing about especially well-done stories. this forum is a good place to do it.

i'm new here, and still exploring literotica.com, but in the spirit of my suggestions above, herewith a few of my own discoveries, whose writing i do admire as much for its maturity and grace as for its erotic quotient. tonytony3 is, in my view, in a class all his own. a fellow named octavian wrote a long piece called "a modern love story," and i wish he'd write more. blueboar keeps testing new genres; i'm not moved by some of his stories, but that's because he keeps challenging himself. but regardless of story line, i find that i always admire his writing. sven the elder is another. and i'm sure there are many, many more i've not yet discovered.

there is, it seems to me, a simple, hopefully not too stuffy-sounding truism here: one's level of education. sophistication, and experience in the world determines one's response to a story. that's unfortunate when the measure of a story's worth-- and the way it attains the red "h" mark that draws in readers--- derives from the general voting public, a significant portion of whom are barely literate, even non-contributors, solely along for the ride. perhaps one day this site could have an extra five point rating that reflects a reader's feelings about quality or maturity of writing.

for what it's worth (and hoping not stepping on toes)

coaster 12345@aol.com

 

[sealawyer]

I second coaster's comments

Coaster 12345 should have added his own name. To date, I've seen only one contribution by him, but it was outstanding.

I have a comment or two that some may find helpful.

1. "Show, don't tell!" Let your characters tell the story. Too many writers get in the way.

2. Break up long paragraphs, preferably with dialogue.

3. Avoid extravagant descriptions except where necessary and germane to your story.

4. Finally, remember that the most important sentence in any story is the one at the very beginning which has the added responsibility of encouraging the reader to find out what happens next.

 

[NoJo]

Coaster,

Chacun a son gout.

By the way, the highest voted story currently is by ronde, one of the most literate writers on the site.

Doesn't that kind of undermine your argument a bit?

 

[coaster12345]

sub joe:
"Chacun a son gout.

By the way, the highest voted story currently is by ronde, one of the most literate writers on the site.

Doesn't that kind of undermine your argument a bit?"

no. ronde is indeed a literate writer (and thank you for directing him to me). but ronde has posted 19 stories here ranging from old west to sci-fi, and his continued literacy and breadth of field has well established his "fan club." i mean that in the most respectful way. but some of us have a narrower erotic window. his stories, for the most part, do little for me except to admire his writing.

my "argument"--- i wasn't aware i'd made one until you created it--- is for good writing. and as you say, "chacon a son gout"--- to each his own. btw, the phrase works as well, with less pretention, in english.

coaster

 

[Axeltheswede]

literate erotica

I would like to add rgjohn to your list of "Loving Wives" authors. He currently has the top story there with "The Journey". That story is redefining that genre as far as length and content go. A good long read worth the time.

 

[Octavian]

I am flattered that Coaster would like to see more of my work and it has been very satisfying to read the positive feedback on my first, indeed only, submission.

As a new contributor, however, I do have one question. Do people want any humour with their erotica?
Most stories that I have read, save for the 'Humour and Satire' variety, seem to lack humour. I injected quite a bit of humour in "A Modern Love Story" but not one single person has commented on it. The other alternative, that I'm just not funny, just doesn't bear thinking about!

 

[Ray Dario]

I am flattered that Coaster would like to see more of my work and it has been very satisfying to read the positive feedback on my first, indeed only, submission.

As a new contributor, however, I do have one question. Do people want any humour with their erotica?
Most stories that I have read, save for the 'Humour and Satire' variety, seem to lack humour. I injected quite a bit of humour in "A Modern Love Story" but not one single person has commented on it. The other alternative, that I'm just not funny, just doesn't bear thinking about!

I have pretty much stopped putting humor into my stories too. The only comments I ever received on my humor served to point out that I was too subtle and the reader thought I was serious, and a little weird.

Also I got to thinking about the funny XXX movies I've seen. I didn't enjoy them as much. I think there may be some high falutin' psychobabble reason that humor and erotica don't mix well, but just think about it. The last time you sprouted wood, were you laughing? Probably not. If the reader is looking for good literature, like Coaster, he would probably enjoy humor. If he's lookin' to get his rocks off then the humor would detract from the story. Sadly, most of the readers here at Lit are lookin' to get their rocks off while many of the writers on the boards are interested in producing Literature. A dichotomy that produces a certain amount of resentment at times.

As to the rise of quality stories in the top lists. I have noticed it too and I'm ecstatic! For a long time the "Loving Wives" top lists were dominated by really horrid writing. Then some weirdness with the votes started happening, (I started losing votes but my scores jumped up and others reported the same thing) and now the "Loving Wives" top list has many more stories that I consider well written. I think Laurel and Manu must have done something and whatever it was I applaud it.

Ray

 

[NoJo]

Funny erotica

Laughing at something distances you from it, so in a way, you can't get "into" erotica when it keeps jumping you out of the mood by being humorous.

It may be funny to read about, say, someone accidentally farting during sex, but I don't find it erotic (although come to think of it...)

But sometimes getting people to laugh is a good way to get them into an erotic mood, or rather, to release their inhibitions. So in a seduction scene in a story, I think putting in humor could be perfectly appropriate.

 

[ronde]

Thank you, Sub Joe and Coaster

Thank you so much for your comments. I know my work probably does not appeal to most of the Lit readers. I write as I do for those who enjoy a little less sex and a little more plot and character development. I have the utmost respect for those authors who can pen stories filled with sex that read well and satisfy the reader, no matter what form that satisfaction may take. I enjoy some of them myself, but I have difficulty writing in this style.

If the impact of one of my works is only to cause another capable author to admire my writing, that is reward enough for my efforts, and I thank both of you for taking the time to write your thoughts on this board.

 

[coaster12345]

"I write as I do for those who enjoy a little less sex and a little more plot and character development."

if you wll indulge me in a minor but essential correction, i'd think it more accurate to say that you write the way you have to. there used to be, before the porno age, a host of 8x11 short story magazines on the newstands that served the same sort of diversionary purpose--- not turning you on (although the authors usually tried subtlely to do that), but to provide the same kind of escapist moment that the law enforcement shows try to provide on today's tv. i'd guess that that's in line with your own drive-mechanism. i admire it. personally, i've been fascinated throughout my life with the intertwining vines of sex, marital relationships, and external society. to me, as i write here, these considerations are of primary concern. the place, and the where, and the why here? are secondary. and if they get someone off, ok--- no harm in that (smile.

coaster

 

[LakotaMoon]

coaster,

your "bingo" story is an excellent example for more intelligent, truly literate erotica...

I would love to read more from you.

 

[the_bragis]

'want to know what I think?

To Octavian,

I injected quite a bit of humor in "A Modern Love Story" but not one single person has commented on it.

Again, from a female point of view, I really enjoy a little humor in an erotic story. No, I don't mean like full on laughing, but little pieces of witticism. When I read your story, many lines made me smile. I didn't comment on it at the time because I guess it was very subtle humor. Nothing really jumped out and hit me, but I like that.

To coaster12345,

before the porno age, a host of 8x11 short story magazines on the newstands that served the same

Allow me to deviate from the original discussion for a moment. I understand that boundaries need to be set, but honestly, you want to know what drives me nuts? Well I'll tell you anyway. You can watch almost any amount of blood and guts on tv, or read about it with so few restriction virtually from the age you can read, and yet sex you can't. Sex is taboo, violets is not? Well, I can tell you all right now which one I'm indulging in...and loving it! I'm not odd I am?

and if they get someone off, ok--- no harm in that (smile.
No harm in that at all, and if it's well written, that's just one hunky big bonus, for hungry little readers like me isn't it? Having said that, I do find it harder to get excited by a story, if I am constantly distracted with typing or spelling mistakes. If the story is badly written to the point where I can't understand or follow it. Or if I feel like I need a dictionary to understand every second word, especially when referring to body parts. ~laughing~

To anyone who is stilling reading my posting,

I read all kinds of books, but when it comes to erotica, I look for the three 'e's, erotic, exciting, and easy to read. One of my favorite authors here would have to be Jigs, although I do have many. Too many to list really. I recently discovered Singularity's work, damn it his stuff is red hot also! Good grief, I feel like a kid in a candy store here sometimes.

Alex (fem)

 

[Guilty As Charged]

A few additions of my own...

I'm pretty new to Literotica, but I have to say that I agree wholeheartedly with Coaster, Sub and the other members who've posted on this thread. A story without exposition, or even worse, a story written at a fifth grade level just doesn't work for me. Like I said in a previous post, I like a little cheese with my wine.

That said, I'd like to add a few authors who I've found worth reading (I've linked each of the author's names to their Lit pages):

1. Red_Writer: I was referred to him by the next author on my list. He's written a solid number of stories, and I've enjoyed most of them. I'm not a big fan of his "Birddoggin" series (how long can you drag a chase on?) but to each his own. His stuff is geared more towards lovers of the "Fetish" category and the writing is great. I'd suggest his "Poly at the Party" for anyone who likes a story that becomes sexual quickly without sacrificing too much realism.

2. Sixty-nine: Though I hate his Lit name (I would have expected something more... poetic) I'll blame it on his youth. Actually, I previously started a thread about his story "The Company: Marlo 01" and I still believe it offers an almost perfect sex/exposition ratio. I'm not a big fan of stories that begin with sex scenes but the writing itself makes up for it. I haven't seen anything from him since that story and hope the low score didn't scare him off.

3. Stormbringer: By far the best writer of interracial sex stories on this site. "Girl's Night Out" and his "Shame" series are my favorites.

4. Octavian: Dearest God in heaven that was a long story, but it was well worth the time! As a side note, I realize that he was already listed, but I figured he wouldn't mind more kudos for his work.

5. darkrivers: I was floored by his story "The Care Giver" and I hope to see more from him in the future.

I know those additions to the list aren't all from the categories you were asking for, but I couldn't let them go unsung based on the topics they write about.

Guilty

P.S. <shameless plug> And lost for my stuff coming soon! <shameless plug>

 

[Octavian]

Guilty
Thank you for kind comments. You are right---it is a long read, but you had the easy bit. Just imagine how long it took to write it!

 

[Sixty-nine]

Double-thanks for the double-kudos, Guilty. Didn't even realize you live in the next city over (Birds of a feather.... yadda, yadda, yadda).

I enjoyed Octavian's stuff too, but just between you and me, it was a good'n but long'n!

Last note: I've just started a thread in the General Board in an attempt to find a new Lit name, so QUIT YOUR YAPPIN'!!

Your Floridian Amigo
69

 

[MG40]

I have to agree about Stormbringer, I'm a big fan of his work. Now I'm going to have to check out the other authors you mentioned. One other author I recommend is notbillyb. Check out his stories in the Interracial section.

 

[Guest]

If you read Stormbringer once, you've read them all.

Same schtick over and over again.

 

[English Lady]

Well my favourite author would have to be

dr mabeuse

He has a wonderful writing style that just drags you deep into his tales. his christmas story (judith) was not only erotic but very very profound. An amazing writer in my humble opinion.

 

[MG40]

You could say that about Stormbringer, but I still enjoy and look forward to them. In the same manner some people get hooked on serials, I'm into his recurring storyline and I look forward to each new wrinkle.

 

[gauchecritic]

My two penn'orth

for those who appreciate well written, truly literate erotica, especially of the "loving wives" "group sex"or "swinging" genres,

...there is, it seems to me, a simple, hopefully not too stuffy-sounding truism here: one's level of education. sophistication, and experience in the world determines one's response to a story. that's unfortunate when the measure of a story's worth-- and the way it attains the red "h" mark that draws in readers--- derives from the general voting public, a significant portion of whom are barely literate, even non-contributors, solely along for the ride. perhaps one day this site could have an extra five point rating that reflects a reader's feelings about quality or maturity of writing.

for what it's worth (and hoping not stepping on toes)

coaster 12345@aol.com

Oooh toe stepping BDSM surely.

point the first. A very nice point but to me a huge difference, "Literate Erotica" is (to NOT put too fine a point on it) well written dirty stories. "Erotic Literature" on the other hand is 'literature with sex scenes' The latter of which is your 'scene'.
This arguement: Which is most 'worthy'? has travelled the length and breadth of the boards and never to my knowledge been won by either camp.

point b. Only 3 categories? Are you a prude?

point trois. I never trust truisms promulgated by not-too-stuffy, educated, sophisticated, worldly experienced persons or otherwise.

point gamma. A red H being a general voting score is, as far as I can gather, generally, and in the main, (but not secretly in their heart of hearts) quietly ignored by most board posting authors. (Personally I love 'em but I've only got one )

point 6 What happened to point 5?

point 5 ah here it is. (oldie but a beauty)

point sieben. "barely literate" Why do they come to a story site? Surely JJJs would be a better choice for those?

point astoni. "non-contributors" Just who do you think we write for in the first place? Why do we post our stories here if not to be read by the sprawling e-masses? (Yes I know some of us write for other reasons)

point Iota. "along for the ride" Aren't we all? Authors or not?

point 10. There are in place, and being put in place, other awards (including monetary) whereby both authors and critics (and not forgetting the green E) also have their own voice heard on authors work.

Sorry if I sound a little peeved about this particular post, but I consider myself to be 'below' this cultural threshold of 'learned' readers and being working class (not mentioned I agree, but pointed at, hinted of and implied) I take great exception to such literate snobbery which must necessarily exclude those not of the ilk whilst making no concessions or offering any help to them either.

But then, I am

Gauche

 

[clcarne]

who inspired your writing?

What writer inspired your style - if any? I admit that Anne Rice is an author that I find stimulating. Also Reage of course.

My 'Ranch' was inspired by the total sex fantasyof the Beauty books. And my 'Master' series is sort of 'O'ish. (The star trek story was just a trekker/klingon fetish.)

Do men have writers that they emulate.

 

[PeachyBratz]

I am so glad to see that someone else shares my view of the stormbringer stories. I am absolutely addicted to them. I agree that once you have read one you have read the basic plot for them all - but hey, isn't all erotic literature that way?

I have found my second true love in those stories...black cock.

 

[Guest]

 

[Kurtuk_Caddington]

Re: My two penn'orth

Oooh toe stepping BDSM surely.
.........
Gauche

Forgive me for not spelling right, it is not my strong point; even though I'm much published And also, this is my first time on this board; if I seem ill mannered, it is not intentional.

I do think coster has a point though. Voting mechanism tend to flatten out ranking critiria.

A better way to think about what is worth while, are recommendations lists, that readers and writer make. Then things of a kind get sorted together.
Actually, that is what is happening on this thread.

I think literotica might want to facilitate that.

Kurtuk Caddington

 

[janenycgirl]

For my 2 pennies worth
it's someone named Charly
i don't have his link handy
but one can find him easily enough
he has had me on tenterhooks (sp)
for about a year ...how & when a youngster by the name of Danny would consummate his love for Joanne ...a much older married woman. { some obvious generational prejudice ;-) }
His slow methodical approach to Danny's eventual coupling with Joanne was _clever_ and extremely well done.
Bravo Charly !!