Incest question

[expertlinguist]

The European royal families were so intermarried at one point--most of them coming from the Austrian Hapsburg line--that there were common birth defects among them. One of the most notable was the Haspsburg chin. King Charles II of Spain was almost a complete idiot due to all the inbreeding that had happened.

More recently, of all the major nations involved in World War I--England, Germany and Russia--the kings of those three countries were first cousins, and had grown up together.

Confirmation that the saying "one can't choose one's family, but one can choose one's friends" is valid.

 

[Abbafan]

The European royal families were so intermarried at one point--most of them coming from the Austrian Hapsburg line--that there were common birth defects among them. One of the most notable was the Haspsburg chin. King Charles II of Spain was almost a complete idiot due to all the inbreeding that had happened.

More recently, of all the major nations involved in World War I--England, Germany and Russia--the kings of those three countries were first cousins, and had grown up together.

Yes, not a good combination when you have this hereditary way of choosing your next ruler, and a lot of them are inbred idiots!

 

[Corbie]

If you are interested, I would love to chat with seximom. I think we could have a fun and interesting chat.

She hasn't been on, or at least posted anything, for almost a year.

 

[YourSecretSanta]

Hi

Hi there.

 

[KaitlynW1993]

its an interesting topic and one that gets raised a bit.

I would walk around at [Redacted], baggy t shirt, no bra. The t shirt would only just cover my butt and front.
yes i wore lace panties but noticed my dad look now and then.

i know my uncle was thinking about me sexually one day when i had not long dev this rockin body and i got out of the pool in my new red bikini.
He didnt seem to hid it either.

Why i did that to both dad and uncle. no idea. hormones i guess. i didnt think about them sexually but wanted them as well established men notice my body.


[Age Reference Redacted]

 

[YourSecretSanta]

...

Huh. Interesting.

 

[cocktaildress21]

Why do so many people have problems with sexual relationships between adult family members? What goes on between consenting adults shouldn't be any one elses business. For example, a man in his early 40's gets divorced and loses his house. He moves in with his widowed mother who is in her late 50's. One day she happens to walk past his open door and sees him looking at porn and stroking himself. At first she just walks away, but then she has a second thought and goes back and gives him a "helping hand". Eventually it leads to more and they end up sharing a bed. What is the harm in it? The same could be said if it were father and daughter, or brother and sister. They are all adults. no problem.

This is such a massively bogus question. The odds against any consensual incest are staggering.

Deplorably, child abuse is all too common, with something like 20% of all women having experienced some form of sexual contact with their father.

But the fetish isn't common, at all. And for anything real to happen, both need to have that fetish - then on top actually find each other attractive - then on top of that, have the courage (or whatever we should call it) to act on it. The odds against AxBxC are overwhelming. Not to the point that it's never ever happened - but to the point that anyone on this forum stating that they're in a happy relationship with their sibling or whatever is far far more likely to be lying, than truthful.

 

[easyoff]

This is such a massively bogus question. The odds against any consensual incest are staggering.

Deplorably, child abuse is all too common, with something like 20% of all women having experienced some form of sexual contact with their father.

But the fetish isn't common, at all. And for anything real to happen, both need to have that fetish - then on top actually find each other attractive - then on top of that, have the courage (or whatever we should call it) to act on it. The odds against AxBxC are overwhelming. Not to the point that it's never ever happened - but to the point that anyone on this forum stating that they're in a happy relationship with their sibling or whatever is far far more likely to be lying, than truthful.

I personaly know three people that have had sex with a sibling, so it's not that uncommon.

 

[DennisB]

This is such a massively bogus question. The odds against any consensual incest are staggering.

Deplorably, child abuse is all too common, with something like 20% of all women having experienced some form of sexual contact with their father.

But the fetish isn't common, at all. And for anything real to happen, both need to have that fetish - then on top actually find each other attractive - then on top of that, have the courage (or whatever we should call it) to act on it. The odds against AxBxC are overwhelming. Not to the point that it's never ever happened - but to the point that anyone on this forum stating that they're in a happy relationship with their sibling or whatever is far far more likely to be lying, than truthful.

Of course most of these people are lying. They used this platform to initiate conversation. Catering to an audience. If it does happen in an age below adulthood, it was either abuse or childhood innocence. Neither which is what people are wanting to hear. If it happens when both are adults, they wouldn’t talk about it to anyone but keep it a secret. I have called out many people claiming to have or had incest.

But it does happen, but if it does, those people are keeping it quiet.

 

[cocktaildress21]

Of course most of these people are lying. They used this platform to initiate conversation.

And I truly don't mind fantasies. It bothers me that people pretend their fantasies are reality, because it paints a false image that a high number of people tend to believe is real. And then dumb shit happens - like they profess their undying love for their sister, and ruin their own lives. Or worse. Because we don't frame this in truth: It's a fantasy, and the reality of it is very, very rare - and when it does happen, it's almost certainly abuse.

But fantasies are fine. I have plenty. I happen to know which ones are real, and which ones can be safe and sanely relegated to the realm of fiction.

 

[DennisB]

I hear ya!

 

[expertlinguist]

This is such a massively bogus question. The odds against any consensual incest are staggering.

Deplorably, child abuse is all too common, with something like 20% of all women having experienced some form of sexual contact with their father.

But the fetish isn't common, at all. And for anything real to happen, both need to have that fetish - then on top actually find each other attractive - then on top of that, have the courage (or whatever we should call it) to act on it. The odds against AxBxC are overwhelming. Not to the point that it's never ever happened - but to the point that anyone on this forum stating that they're in a happy relationship with their sibling or whatever is far far more likely to be lying, than truthful.

Non sense, in the late 70s, well before internet and social media, my half (younger by 5 year) sister decided that she wanted to spend a year in the country where I lived. I was married at the time, and never gave a though about straying away.

My wife and I were naturists, we invited my sister to join us on a two week holiday in a naturist's camping resort in Croatia, she agreed.

She her own tent.

So there is me with two very sexy women lying on a rock a few feet from the sea.

On the third night my sister asked me to visit her, we went on a stroll in the darkening night and asked me if I found her attractive. I responded positively, then she hugged me and kissed on my lips. he sst on a flat rock on the sea egde an as soon as I sat down she took my soft cock in her mouth.

My wife never liked liked sucking my cock, so this was a major turn on!

Don't get me wrong, I haven't got a pornstar cock, about 6 or 7 inches, depends on how aroused I am, but it's fairly thick.

As soon as I was at full mast she asked me to make love to her, but to go slowly as she was a virgin.

Genetic sexual attraction is real folks, don't dismiss it. and the experience was mind blowing for me, to the point I left my wife, went to live in my sister's country and since 1979 we've been living together as man and wife.

We have different last names, so people assume we are an unmarried couple living together. We have not dared getting married or getting in a civil partnership as one has to produce a birth certificate and our mothers are the same.

Nobody knows we are relate and no one needs to know. Now both in our late 60s we still have mind blowib love mking at least every second day.

 

[eaee]

its an interesting topic and one that gets raised a bit.

I would walk around at [Redacted], baggy t shirt, no bra. The t shirt would only just cover my butt and front.
yes i wore lace panties but noticed my dad look now and then.

i know my uncle was thinking about me sexually one day when i had not long dev this rockin body and i got out of the pool in my new red bikini.
He didnt seem to hid it either.

Why i did that to both dad and uncle. no idea. hormones i guess. i didnt think about them sexually but wanted them as well established men notice my body.


[Age Reference Redacted]

Very interesting that you did that. VERY!!! My granddaughter, about 25 years of age, spent a day with my wife and I a few weeks ago. Now, I'm 87. And the kid sported a very plain cameltoe with no sign of underwear. Why, indeed. I'm non-plussed.

 

[MarionsLover]

This is such a massively bogus question. The odds against any consensual incest are staggering.

Deplorably, child abuse is all too common, with something like 20% of all women having experienced some form of sexual contact with their father.

But the fetish isn't common, at all. And for anything real to happen, both need to have that fetish - then on top actually find each other attractive - then on top of that, have the courage (or whatever we should call it) to act on it. The odds against AxBxC are overwhelming. Not to the point that it's never ever happened - but to the point that anyone on this forum stating that they're in a happy relationship with their sibling or whatever is far far more likely to be lying, than truthful.

Or it's a self selecting group.
We're more likely to find people in happy incest relationships because we're here, talking about sex.
The ones who weren't happy probably wouldn't be coming here to talk about it.

 

[MarionsLover]

its an interesting topic and one that gets raised a bit.

I would walk around at [Redacted], baggy t shirt, no bra. The t shirt would only just cover my butt and front.
yes i wore lace panties but noticed my dad look now and then.

i know my uncle was thinking about me sexually one day when i had not long dev this rockin body and i got out of the pool in my new red bikini.
He didnt seem to hid it either.

Why i did that to both dad and uncle. no idea. hormones i guess. i didnt think about them sexually but wanted them as well established men notice my body.


[Age Reference Redacted]

Or you were just becoming aware of your sexuality and wanted to give it a test drive?

It's not that you wanted to have sex with your dad and uncle per se, you just wanted to see the effect you had on men?

 

[sarod]

I find even the thought of it with my family to be a huge disgusting no no, it really is a turn off, but I would love to watch a session between other people doing it themselves, again, just not any of my family members. Its always hot to read stories of it happening, or watching porn with that theme, but porno films are all fake I am pretty sure just acting.

 

[cocktaildress21]

Or it's a self selecting group.
We're more likely to find people in happy incest relationships because we're here, talking about sex.
The ones who weren't happy probably wouldn't be coming here to talk about it.

Only we're not. See, it might seem that way, but it really isn't. There is only a limited overlap between the people on discussion forums on the internet - and the people out there, in the real world, actually doing things.

Example: Go to a gay bar. Ask how many of those people look for partners on seedy internet sites. Answer: None. Or practically none.

You're not totally off, there is some community things. I'm on a sex dating site in Denmark called scor.dk, and ... it's true, some of those are active BDSM'ers and what have you. But they're a tiny minority. At a guess, I'd say the site has maybe 200 real profiles, who all know each other, and show up to events and so on. Then it has ... let's ballpark it at around 2000 wannabe's who've never tried it, and 20000 total fakes.

since 1979 we've been living together as man and wife.

And I'm going to say .... noooo, you haven't, but nice fantasy.

And maybe I'm wrong. There's that tiny sliver of chance that you're not fake, but it's frankly too small for me to consider. Just call it as it is: Nice fantasy. Not real. Maybe you want it to be - but odds are, you really don't. Just think how akward EVERYTHING is when you're married to your sibling. No one wants anything to do with you, ever - not your neighbors, not your colleagues, not your family ... not even your children, though I hope to god you don't have any (I mean, even if they're imaginary).

 

[expertlinguist]

And I'm going to say .... noooo, you haven't, but nice fantasy.

And maybe I'm wrong. There's that tiny sliver of chance that you're not fake, but it's frankly too small for me to consider. Just call it as it is: Nice fantasy. Not real. Maybe you want it to be - but odds are, you really don't. Just think how akward EVERYTHING is when you're married to your sibling. No one wants anything to do with you, ever - not your neighbors, not your colleagues, not your family ... not even your children, though I hope to god you don't have any (I mean, even if they're imaginary).

You obviously have not read my post properly. Think what you want, it's your prerogative, but do mind being called an disingenuous person. And no, we do not have children, that was our choice, nothing to do with phantomatic birth defects.

 

[Susscrofa]

And I truly don't mind fantasies. It bothers me that people pretend their fantasies are reality, because it paints a false image that a high number of people tend to believe is real. And then dumb shit happens - like they profess their undying love for their sister, and ruin their own lives. Or worse. Because we don't frame this in truth: It's a fantasy, and the reality of it is very, very rare - and when it does happen, it's almost certainly abuse.

But fantasies are fine. I have plenty. I happen to know which ones are real, and which ones can be safe and sanely relegated to the realm of fiction.

What you and another poster said is exactly right. People assume that consensual incestuous relationships are common because they A. think that every "true story" posted here is an actual true story rather than a fantasy and B. fail to recognize that even if some of them were true, they represent a self-selecting group of people that aren't representative of the general population.

My own take is this. The vast majority of people find incest repulsive. There's a relatively small number (myself included) who have found the fantasy hot but would never want to act on it. There's a smaller number still who would want to act on it, but usually the target of their desire (sister, mother etc) doesn't feel the same way. That doesn't leave much for real-life consensual incestuous relationships. Unfortunately and in contrast, incestuous child abuse is common enough, with stepfathers often the most common perpetrators.

I often hear the argument that incest is common, but we don't hear about it because it's illegal and people keep it hidden. Decades ago, homosexuality was also illegal, yet despite the fact that people tried to keep it hidden, there were constant cases where a famous political figure, entertainer etc. would be ruined by discovery or rumors of homosexuality. You don't have similar gossip today about Hollywood celebrities or congressmen having sex with their sisters and mothers. Why? Because it very rarely happens.

 

[cocktaildress21]

What you and another poster said is exactly right. People assume that consensual incestuous relationships are common because they A. think that every "true story" posted here is an actual true story rather than a fantasy and B. fail to recognize that even if some of them were true, they represent a self-selecting group of people that aren't representative of the general population.

My own take is this. The vast majority of people find incest repulsive. There's a relatively small number (myself included) who have found the fantasy hot but would never want to act on it. There's a smaller number still who would want to act on it, but usually the target of their desire (sister, mother etc) doesn't feel the same way. That doesn't leave much for real-life consensual incestuous relationships. Unfortunately and in contrast, incestuous child abuse is common enough, with stepfathers often the most common perpetrators.

I often hear the argument that incest is common, but we don't hear about it because it's illegal and people keep it hidden. Decades ago, homosexuality was also illegal, yet despite the fact that people tried to keep it hidden, there were constant cases where a famous political figure, entertainer etc. would be ruined by discovery or rumors of homosexuality. You don't have similar gossip today about Hollywood celebrities or congressmen having sex with their sisters and mothers. Why? Because it very rarely happens.

Yes. Very astute: We have very nice evidence that homosexuality was common even when it's was common knowledge that god would strike you down. And there's been no explosion of homosexuality since it became legal - or generally accepted. What I see as having become much more common is bisexuality, which seems to be having a wonderful time =)

I don't really find incest repulsive, I'm very much on the consenting adults page. However, I don't see it as very realistic. Simply because we aren't, generally, attracted to those closest to us, be it siblings, parents, or even friends. And even if we are, it's basically never both ways.

You obviously have not read my post properly. Think what you want, it's your prerogative, but do mind being called an disingenuous person. And no, we do not have children, that was our choice, nothing to do with phantomatic birth defects.

I understand that you don't appreciate being called a liar. I do. And I'm ... not? Look, I also hope you realise I'd be utterly ludicrous to believe all, or most, of what I read on the internet. You ... do know that, right? So ... yea, I don't believe you, but that has to do with the intense background radiation of lies and untruths and dishonesty and wild overstatement prevalent on the internet. I promise I mean no disrespect towards you. It's just ... is what it is. I did read your post, I just didn't believe it.