Impeachment will begin...

[Kirkrapine]

No I don't.....the UK isn't going to leave, because it's the EU's bitch.

We may hope.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Want me to keep going or is that enough??

You have yet to begin. Nothing you quote even suggests hatred of America.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Kinda hard to love the USA when your politics are totally antithetical to the core political ideals the country was founded upon wouldn't you say??

Nothing about social democracy is so antithetical.

 

[Rokk0n]

Unemployment is at a 50-year low, inflation is minimal.

The economy is trending above expectation with very healthy growth and on track to

be the longest expansion in U.S. history.

And assholes want to impeach the man.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Com'mon lefties tell us more how all sorts of collectivism, socialistic and communistic political ideology is PROUD AMERICAN TRADITION!!!

It's all in this book. If you have the slightest shred of self-respect or intellectual integrity, you will read it before you post again.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Unemployment is at a 50-year low, inflation is minimal.

The economy is trending above expectation with very healthy growth and on track to

be the longest expansion in U.S. history.

All of that is Obama's doing. There will be a recession before 2020.

 

[Liar]

Yea....I figured that's about all you'd be able to come back with.

Walks like a Kyle, quacks like a Kyle...

Com'mon lefties tell us more how all sorts of collectivism, socialistic and communistic political ideology is PROUD AMERICAN TRADITION!!!

It's story time and the best is the one about how those silly things like liberty and individual rights are all just Alt-Right Nazi Nonsense.

Considering the platform we were talking about is barely even close to tepid Blairite Social Democracy, that's hardly relevant. But if hysterical hyperbolic shrieking of strawman juxtapositions is all you have... well, you do you, I suppose.

 

[nowisthetime]

His type = dime a dozen. Brooded during high school & didn't study, then became a sexless adult malcontent who found a niche online. Seeks out the messaging that makes him feel better about his life and ascribes to it 100%, with no critical thinking.

Now pretends he's brilliant but, deep down, isn't convinced (because he isn't) - has to prove it to himself through flame wars.

Being that much of a cliche means it's easy to push his buttons.

He's not interesting, entertaining, insightful, or knowledgeable enough to converse with anymore.

Oh I don't even bother with him. I feel pity for him, obviously he's not all there, just an angry and sick little sexless boy.

 

[Rokk0n]

Unemployment is at a 50-year low, inflation is minimal.

The economy is trending above expectation with very healthy growth and on track to

be the longest expansion in U.S. history.

And assholes want to impeach the man.

All of that is Obama's doing. There will be a

recession before 2020.

The same way your scalp problem is Obama's doing.

 

[scsoutherngent]

I don't know how we can impeach him. He knows more than everyone about everything. He knows more about drones, technology, ISIS, diplomacy, and anything else you can name. Hell, he probably knows more about our bowel movements than we do.


The best part about the orange clown is all the far right nuts that love him because he hates big government. I can't wait to see how they react to his statement that he can forgo eminent domain laws, and seize people's property for his wall without due process.

 

[navytime09]

I don't know how we can impeach him. He knows more than everyone about everything. He knows more about drones, technology, ISIS, diplomacy, and anything else you can name. Hell, he probably knows more about our bowel movements than we do.


The best part about the orange clown is all the far right nuts that love him because he hates big government. I can't wait to see how they react to his statement that he can forgo eminent domain laws, and seize people's property for his wall without due process.

Don't forget about his extensive knowledge on the complexity of nuclear power.

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We may hope.

Why would you wish to see democracy in a once great nation fall and become subjected to a bunch of shit heads who have no interest in the UK's best interest??

You have yet to begin. Nothing you quote even suggests hatred of America.

Except that it's antithetical to American political values.

Kinda hard to love a country when your politics are directly opposed to everything it stands for.

Nothing about social democracy is so antithetical.

Yes it is.

Democratic oppression is still oppression.

It's all in this book. If you have the slightest shred of self-respect or intellectual integrity, you will read it before you post again.

LOL....no, I've already read all the "The USA is clearly socialistic and intended to be the communist utopia!!" bullshit I can take. It's just not true.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Walks like a Kyle, quacks like a Kyle...

You're the one who went running from the conversation to engage in deflection with hyperbole by linking the onion.

Considering the platform we were talking about is barely even close to tepid Blairite Social Democracy, that's hardly relevant.

It's not at all relevant.

Diet socialism is still socialistic and antithetical to traditional US political values.

But if hysterical hyperbolic shrieking of strawman juxtapositions is all you have... well, you do you, I suppose.

It's not hyperbolic, it's directly linked to the (D)'s official platform.

You can either demonstrate/link up citation of Americas strong socialist/communist background or just admit the (D)'s have slid/are sliding from liberals to socialists and in doing so are opposing traditional American political ideals.

Or keep up with the deflections and shit talk. Doesn't matter to me.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Looks like my 2nd NY's prediction is coming true.

Which means Orangey just may have a straitjacket moment in 2019.

Back to the actual topic of this thread:

Mueller just sought and got an extention of his DC grand jury for another 6 months.

So no, he's not likely done yet for a while.

 

[Vman55]

Unemployment is at a 50-year low, inflation is minimal.

The economy is trending above expectation with very healthy growth and on track to

be the longest expansion in U.S. history.

And assholes want to impeach the man.

They are braindead liberals. They want to be Europe. They fail to see how that is NOT working out.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Why would you wish to see democracy in a once great nation fall and become subjected to a bunch of shit heads who have no interest in the UK's best interest??

It is becoming increasingly obvious that leaving the EU is not in the UK's best interest.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It is becoming increasingly obvious that leaving the EU is not in the UK's best interest.

It's people feel otherwise, and I didn't ask you what your opinion on Brexit was.


Why would you wish to see democracy in a once great nation fall and become subjected to a bunch of shit heads who have no interest in the UK's best interest??

 

[Kirkrapine]

Why would you wish to see democracy in a once great nation fall and become subjected to a bunch of shit heads who have no interest in the UK's best interest??

It is becoming increasingly obvious that leaving the EU is not in the UK's best interest. Sooner they decide on another referendum, the better. That's democracy -- it allows the people to learn from their mistakes; dictators hear only that they were right all along.

Except that it's antithetical to American political values.

Kinda hard to love a country when your politics are directly opposed to everything it stands for.

What, stuff like, "And as the party that created Social Security, we believe in protecting every American’s right to retire with dignity." and "Democrats believe that the current minimum wage is a starvation wage and must be increased to a living wage. No one who works full time should have to raise a family in poverty." and "We will open up access to credit because we know that small businesses are some of the best job creators in our country."? No, none of that is opposed to anything this country stands for. American political values != economic libertarianism.

LOL....no, I've already read all the "The USA is clearly socialistic and intended to be the communist utopia!!" bullshit I can take. It's just not true.

Obviously, you haven't. If you won't inform yourself about the parts of real American history you find distasteful, stop pretending you know what "American political values" are. You don't.

 

[Liar]

You're the one who went running from the conversation to engage in deflection with hyperbole by linking the onion.

I could just have said: You make positivistic statements about US values, and then base your arguments upon this endoxic "truth" without ever establishing that they are universally accepted as such. Which they don't seem to be.

But that would be boring, when a piece of oft memed satire did it more eloquently.

It's not at all relevant.

Diet socialism is still socialistic and antithetical to traditional US political values.

Ah, so we're back to that. By that definition, every society that collect some tax to fund some public service is on a scale of diet socialism.

So when was the US not? How "traditional" does it have to get?

It's not hyperbolic, it's directly linked to the (D)'s official platform.

You can either demonstrate/link up citation of Americas strong socialist/communist background or just admit the (D)'s have slid/are sliding from liberals to socialists and in doing so are opposing traditional American political ideals.

Or keep up with the deflections and shit talk. Doesn't matter to me.

I'm not the one making claims about what traditional American political ideals are. I don't have to demostrate shit.

The ball is in your court to demonstrate a) that "traditional American political ideals" are what you think they are, b) that those values is some sort of dogmatic axiom that must not be challanged lest it's not the USA anymore, and c) that the Democratic platform is in direct conflict with those values, in order to substantiate your claim of their hatred of the USA.

I expect an essay on my desk in the morning. Double spacing.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It is becoming increasingly obvious that leaving the EU is not in the UK's best interest.

Again, I didn't ask you what your opinion on Brexit was.

I already know you're a globalist who wants to see western democracies stripped of their cultural identity and sovereignty for a far more autocratic ruling authority.

I asked you.

Why would you wish to see democracy in a once great nation fall and become subjected to a bunch of shit heads who have no interest in the UK's best interest??

No, none of that is opposed to anything this country stands for.

Yes...they are, because you can only do those things by shitting on other people.

The ONLY way for it to be fair, is for everyone to be responsible for their own retirement.

American political values != economic libertarianism.

I'm sorry, but economic liberalism, capitalism, is very much a US tradition.

One the left seeks to destroy.

Obviously, you haven't. If you won't inform yourself about the parts of real American history you find distasteful, stop pretending you know what "American political values" are. You don't.

Yes I have.

What parts of real American history make socialism and communism an American tradition?

If you can't give me some academic references like Britannica for example that show the FF's intent was the exact opposite of just about everything in the Constitution/DoI then you're full of it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

It is becoming increasingly obvious that leaving the EU is not in the UK's best interest.

The government doesn't like the idea and is trying to get the voters to change their minds. I don't think they'll succeed, but we shall see in a few months.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Again, I didn't ask you what your opinion on Brexit was.

I already know you're a globalist who wants to see western democracies stripped of their cultural identity and sovereignty for a far more autocratic ruling authority.

I asked you.

Why would you wish to see democracy in a once great nation fall and become subjected to a bunch of shit heads who have no interest in the UK's best interest??





Yes...they are, because you can only do those things by shitting on other people.

The ONLY way for it to be fair, is for everyone to be responsible for their own retirement.



I'm sorry, but economic liberalism, capitalism, is very much a US tradition.

One the left seeks to destroy.



Yes I have.

What parts of real American history make socialism and communism an American tradition?

If you can't give me some academic references like Britannica for example that show the FF's intent was the exact opposite of just about everything in the Constitution/DoI then you're full of it.

To be completely honest, given the distances involved and the hardships, some early settlements did find it expedient to practice a form of Socialism or even Communism. However, that was long ago, and the situations have changed drastically since then.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Ah, so we're back to that. By that definition, every society that collect some tax to fund some public service is on a scale of diet socialism.

No, it's not. That's more of your hyperbolic bullshit because you like most on the left like to pretend there is NO differences between providing civil services and engaging in class warfare through wealth redistribution and arbitrary oppression/privileging.

So when was the US not? How "traditional" does it have to get?

Before prohibition things were super liberal.

After that it's just been non-stop government power grabbing and tax/regulations just as fast as they can dream them up.

Traditional enough to not be oppressing people.

I'm not the one making claims about what traditional American political ideals are. I don't have to demostrate shit.

You are making claims that they aren't.

The ball is in your court to demonstrate a) that "traditional American political ideals" are what you think they are,

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript

b) that those values is some sort of dogmatic axiom that must not be challanged lest it's not the USA anymore, and

The USA isn't much the USA without all the things and ideas in those founding documents which made it so unique....like freedom of speech, equal treatment under the law, freedom of association, private property etc. etc.

c) that the Democratic platform is in direct conflict with those values, in order to substantiate your claim of their hatred of the USA.

How do you think they are going to make all this racial, gender and socioeconomic equity for all happen???

Pay for all the worthless degrees kids were conned into??

And the 2/3's of the country that's overweight/obese and drowning in HC debt because they are literally McDonaldsing themselves to death?

That's right.....and that's where the left's bullshit always hit's a wall and comes down to government shitting on other people to "fix" injustice.

Kinda hard to enjoy your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness when the government has a gun to your head and is forcing you to pay for all the fuck ups of everyone else around you because "it's not fair!!" that you're doing better than them.

Hard to enjoy your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of my own happiness when I'm denied a job because quota for my skin color is full, to many Asians in science.

To many Asians have store/liquor/tobacco/cannabis licences....gotta hold the extras for proportional numbers of other races/genders.

Not very free.....not at all liberal...violates mah gawd given rights.

I expect an essay on my desk in the morning. Double spacing.

You keep expecting bubba.

Now I understand why Kirk thinks socialism/communism are totally American as apple pie and big block V8's, that the FF's and Constitution are CLEARLY proto-Marxist and in no way shape or form associated with western classical liberalism.

I mean how in the fuck he came to that conclusion is beyond me....but I understand why.

You seem to support the same idea....I'm super curious, how did you come to that conclusion?

 

[BotanyBoy]

To be completely honest, given the distances involved and the hardships, some early settlements did find it expedient to practice a form of Socialism or even Communism. However, that was long ago, and the situations have changed drastically since then.

Kinda...more like advanced tribalism.

And that's how you generally operate things when you're a group of only a few hundred.

I'm talking about USA actual though, 1776 when we first sat down and made it official who we are and what we are about and going forward .

 

[Tigersman]

The violent left wishing and dreaming of death again , no surprise there! Two absolute sickos!

https://media.giphy.com/media/gRwSH89h9sisw/giphy.gif

Yeah I'm a sick. I'm sick of Trump's lying, his bragging, his bullying, his cowardice and his treasonous ways.