Impeachment Thread

[Wrong Element]

3 1/2 years wasn't enough time? Pelosi got her vote and now has a moral obligation to submit the articles to the senate. I believe failure to elevate the impeachment results to the senate could force SCOTUS to rule as unconstitutional and move to acquit regardless of what the house does, never been done before but just like the house proceedings, there's always a first time.

This is not something that would be reviewable by a federal court, and I would think that would not have to be explained to a principled believer in judicial restraint.

 

[icanhelp1]

This is not something that would be reviewable by a federal court, and I would think that would not have to be explained to a principled believer in judicial restraint.

Not talking about a federal court, talking about a chief justice presiding over the senate trial.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

This morning, Pelosi walked back her talk a bit about not sending the articles to the Senate. Now she’s saying she needs to “see what the arena looks like” in order to know how many managers are needed. She’ll probably get off her ass right after the holidays and the acquittal will be done mid to late Jan.

 

[KeithD]

This morning, Pelosi walked back her talk a bit about not sending the articles to the Senate. Now she’s saying she needs to “see what the arena looks like” in order to know how many managers are needed. She’ll probably get off her ass right after the holidays and the acquittal will be done mid to late Jan.

Doesn't matter much in terms of historical assessment (which is important to Trump--he makes it obvious by his diatribes about it that it's important to him) whether he's acquitted by the Senate or not. The act of impeachment brings "why" scrutiny to bear. The "why" is so obvious with Trump's actions/behavior that acquittal by a cowed and unethical Republican Senate only adds "oh yeah, they were enabling criminality and a clear and present threat to the United States" to the historical assessment fifty years from now.

The model for your behavior on this board is toast, historically. And that, thank goodness, burns the hell into him.

The 2016 election wasn't a win for Trump (regardless that he didn't when the popular vote and only won the election with Russian help). It was a loss when the Republicans lost the House.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The 2016 election wasn't a win for Trump (regardless that he didn't when the popular vote and only won the election with Russian help). It was a loss when the Republicans lost the House.

The 2016 “loss” that resulted in more than 180 federal judges confirmed, TCJA, legislative repeal and judicial rejection of the Obamacare mandate, USMCA, border wall funding (including another $1.35 on Tuesday of this week), and USMCA? Love it!

 

[icanhelp1]

The 2016 “loss” that resulted in more than 180 federal judges confirmed, TCJA, legislative repeal and judicial rejection of the Obamacare mandate, USMCA, border wall funding (including another $1.35 on Tuesday of this week), and USMCA? Love it!

THEY THINK THEIR WINNING!

 

[BotanyBoy]

THEY THINK THEIR WINNING!

They're* winning.

 

[magicalmoments]

I'm sure impeached president trump feels like a winner today.

 

[KeithD]

The 2016 “loss” that resulted in more than 180 federal judges confirmed, TCJA, legislative repeal and judicial rejection of the Obamacare mandate, USMCA, border wall funding (including another $1.35 on Tuesday of this week), and USMCA? Love it!

The 2016 loss to the Republicans in the House resulted in Trump's impeachment and your triggered meltdown.

And added civics lesson for you. The House doesn't have anything to do with the confirmation of federal judges. You don't deflect very well.

 

[Dumpington]

magicalmoments writes: "I'm sure impeached president trump feels like a winner today."

Is THAT what this whole thing was all about? The Democratic Party wastes million of taxpayer dollars so that Trump doesn't feel like a winner for one day? Because everybody KNOWS that the U.S. Senate isn't going to do what Pelosi, Schiff, & Nadler all want, am I right?

KeithD writes: "The 2016 loss to the Republicans in the House resulted in Trump's impeachment and your triggered meltdown."

Get your dates right, Keith - the Republicans WON the House in 2016! Nancy Pelosi didn't become speaker until two years LATER!

"And added civics lesson for you. The House doesn't have anything to do with the confirmation of federal judges."

No, that would be the U.S. Senate. And in the SAME midterm elections that made Pelosi the speaker (2018), four incumbent Democratic Party U.S. Senators (who had all voted AGAINST the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh onto our nation's U.S. Supreme Couty) all LOST their senate seats, making it even easier for this president to remain in office after impeachment! It's almost as if Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford was inadvertently doing her part to protect the Trump presidency!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The 2016 loss to the Republicans in the House resulted in Trump's impeachment and your triggered meltdown.

And added civics lesson for you. The House doesn't have anything to do with the confirmation of federal judges. You don't deflect very well.

Meltdown? I woke up this morning and Trump was still your president. Mine too. Feeling blessed. Be happy. Trump won in 2016 and I’m thrilled with the accomplishments. Have a wonderful Christmas and enjoy your tax cut.

 

[KeithD]

tax cut.

What tax cut? I paid a higher percentage in taxes this year than any previous year. Happily, I make more than enough to absorb it. Yet another issue Trump has easily bamboozled you on.

Yeah, you're so content this morning, you're on a porn discussion board trying to do damage control with deflection.

 

[YDB95]

3 1/2 years wasn't enough time?

July 25 wasn't three and a half years ago, icanhelp1.

 

[allison22]

Trump has warned repeatedly that an impeachment vote would backfire on Democrats, and cause the stock market to crash.

So what happened when the Democrats finally got around to impeaching Trump? Stock values went up!

 

[Spandex_Girl]

"Is the president’s case so weak that none of the president’s men can defend him under oath?" Senator Chuck Schumer asked. "If the House’s case is so weak, why is Leader McConnell so afraid of witnesses and documents? We believe the House’s case is strong … but if the Republican leader believes it’s so weak, why is he so afraid of relevant witnesses and documents?"

 

[YDB95]

Trump has warned repeatedly that an impeachment vote would backfire on Democrats, and cause the stock market to crash.

So what happened when the Democrats finally got around to impeaching Trump? Stock values went up!

My Republican friends all told me, if I voted for Hillary Clinton and she won, all hell would break loose.

They were right. I voted for her, and she won, and all hell broke loose.

 

[OrLaTime]

We can’t have vote on Supreme Court Justice a year our from election?
Fine! Trump can wait til after election to have his impeachment ruled on by a new Senate!

Have a great year!

The People spoke in 2018. Let the Peopke decide in 2020!!

45... 3rd Impeached President
Constitutionally !!

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "They were right. I voted for her, and she won, and all hell broke loose."

Three FACTS that you're NOT going to like, YDB95:

1) Hillary Clinton LOST that election - she conceded to Donald Trump on November 9, 2016!

2) Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger addressed Ku Kux Klan gatherings trying to promote abortion to keep the black race in check.

3) Democratic Party U.S. Senator served as an officer in the KKK (an "Exalted Cyclops") before he voted to pass ObamaCare in 2009!

OrLaTime writes: "We can’t have vote on Supreme Court Justice a year our from election?"

That's up to U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell - if HE agrees to have a vote then we'll see a vote!

"The People spoke in 2018."

Exactly right - in 2018, FOUR incumbent Democratic Party senators who voted "no" on the Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court confirmation LOST to pro-Trump Republicans! The U.S. Senate today is even MORE Republican today than it was before the 2018 midterms! That SAME U.S. Senate will support President Trump in next month's impeachment trial!

The people spoke in 2018!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_impeachments

Trump is in illustrious company these days.

 

[icanhelp1]

July 25 wasn't three and a half years ago, icanhelp1.

They've been investigating him since 2016, before he was even elected, they didn't expect him to win, so yeah, they've been working on impeachment for 3 1/2 years.

 

[YDB95]

They've been investigating him since 2016, before he was even elected, they didn't expect him to win, so yeah, they've been working on impeachment for 3 1/2 years.

Not as regards the charges against him at this time. Besides, if you're so sure he's innocent, shouldn't you welcome scrutiny?

 

[icanhelp1]

Not as regards the charges against him at this time. Besides, if you're so sure he's innocent, shouldn't you welcome scrutiny?

You can't separate them, it's been one allegation after another. No, this isn't scrutiny anymore, it's harassment!!! When the evidence isn't there or it's refuted Nadler and Schiff MANUFACTURE other allegations. It's a never ending process looking for a crime. It's never ending. If this happened to Obama you'd be screaming from the building tops. That open MIC incident was a legitimate impeachable offense, much worse than what Trump is accused of, but like i've said before ,YOU LOST YOUR ABILITY TO BE OBJECTIVE.

 

[Dumpington]

Fuzzy1975 writes: "Trump is in illustrious company these days"

Yeah, Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, & Donald Trump - but Trump is poised to become the FIRST U.S. president ever to be re-elected AFTER being impeached!

icanhelp1 writes: "They've been investigating him since 2016, before he was even elected, they didn't expect him to win, so yeah, they've been working on impeachment for 3 1/2 years."

An empty imeachment is the CLOSEST the Democratic Party can get to defeating Donald Trump. But even THEY recognize the fact that they have ZERO CHANCE of succeeding in the U.S. Senate, resulting in a failed coup attempt that will come back to bite them on their dumb-asses next November!

YDB95 writes: "Besides, if you're so sure he's innocent, shouldn't you welcome scrutiny?"

Joe & Hunter Biden both think you're full of @#$%$#, YDB95! But I AGREE with you! I'd LOVE to see those two forced to testify under oath in a U.S. Senate trial about what all went on in the Ukraine, along with Adam Schiff and his lies told to congress! If they're so sure they're innocent, they should WELCOME the scrutiny!

 

[icanhelp1]

They're* winning.

I do that all the time!

 

[JackLuis]

‘Pelosi has driven a wedge between McConnell and Trump’: ex-White House official

Appearing on CNN’s “New Day” on Friday morning, former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is doing a masterful job by delaying the impeachment trial of Donald Trump and that it is creating friction between the president and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Speaking with hosts John Berman and Alisyn Camerota, the former official under Bill Clinton said Pelosi’s decision to slow down the impeachment process has the White House and the GOP leadership at odds with each other.

“I don’t think it’s indefinite,” Lockhart conceded. “I think by the middle of January, we’ll have this sorted out. But it is three-dimensional political warfare.”

“I think it’s Pelosi is effectively driving a wedge between Mitch McConnell and the president,” he added. “Mitch McConnell’s equity here is his senators, protecting those six vulnerable senators: Martha McSally, Susan Collins, Cory Gardner. The president’s equities are he wants to do a vindication tour. He wants to go around like he did after the election 2016 and say, ‘see, I was right. I’m exonerated.’ And Pelosi has figured out a way to drive that wedge.”

“Just as importantly, she’s keeping the issue of these live witnesses alive as long as she can. That is a very popular idea,” he added.

Nasty Nancy! Now go after Pence!