Immigration is a non-problem

[Wilson23]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myths_and_facts_about_immigration_to_the_United_States
Immigrants, legal or illegal, are not bringing in disease . . they are not bringing crime, they actually are more law-abiding than native citizens . . . they're not burdening public service without paying taxes . . . they're not even TRYING to vote illegally . . .

Immigration does drive down working-class wages. That is the only downside to it -- and even there, it's really not all that bad.

The Republicans -- and I mean the VOTERS, not the pols -- should feel really deeply ashamed of how they scuttled W's immigration-reform bill in 2007. That was pure xenophobia and nativism, there was no excuse at all for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Immigration_Reform_Act_of_2007

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

there is a right wing conservative verison of wikipedia called https://www.conservapedia.com

imagine what it says about immagration

 

[Wilson23]

there is a right wing conservative verison of wikipedia called https://www.conservapedia.com

imagine what it says about immagration

https://www.conservapedia.com/Immigration#US_Immigration_history
Later history
After seeing a high level of immigration, the U.S. government took measures such as the Immigration Act of 1924 to reduce the number of migrants, a period which lasted from about 1925 to 1966.[9] After the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 was enacted, immigration levels reached new highs, and in 2017, the number of foreigners in the U.S. reached the highest level since 1910.[10]

US immigration reform
Most Americans envisage and advocate for a coherent set of national interest principles for immigration policy and the enforcement our Constitutionally derived laws. Many open borders advocates try to cloak themselves in the mantle of "immigration reform," a liberal euphemism, but they fail to address the concerns of the American populace and detriments to foreign countries that lose people. Due to lack of enforcement, illegal immigration occurs widely in the U.S., especially along the Mexican border.

To some people, the value of American citizenship has increased greatly since the founding of the Republic. There are 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States and it would be very costly to deport all these people. It becomes more complicated as they marry and have children which are then legal US citizens. There is a discussion of allowing these 12 million people to follow certain steps to become citizens that can pay taxes and become more contributing members of society. Some people view this as granting amnesty to criminals but do not offer an actual solution to the immigration problem.

While Congress considers new laws, the federal government is left with the task of enforcing existing laws fairly. For example, on November 14, 2016, the US Department of Justice filed a suit against two Washington State-based potato processing companies for discriminating against immigrant workers. These companies had allowed citizens flexibility in proving their status, but had unfairly limited immigrants in to prove their work authorization.[11]

A Harvard/Harris Poll conducted in the Summer of 2019 revealed that 69 percent of swing voters said they are somewhat unlikely or very unlikely to support a 2020 presidential candidate that supports opening the U.S.-Mexico border to more illegal and legal immigration. Overall, about 64 percent of registered voters said they would be more unlikely to support a 2020 presidential candidate that backs increasing illegal and legal immigration to the country — including about 63 percent of Generation X voters, 45 percent of Democrats, and 66 percent of voters who describe themselves as “moderate.”[12]


You see, they assume there's a PROBLEM.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

https://www.conservapedia.com/Immigration#US_Immigration_history
Later history
After seeing a high level of immigration, the U.S. government took measures such as the Immigration Act of 1924 to reduce the number of migrants, a period which lasted from about 1925 to 1966.[9] After the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 was enacted, immigration levels reached new highs, and in 2017, the number of foreigners in the U.S. reached the highest level since 1910.[10]

US immigration reform
Most Americans envisage and advocate for a coherent set of national interest principles for immigration policy and the enforcement our Constitutionally derived laws. Many open borders advocates try to cloak themselves in the mantle of "immigration reform," a liberal euphemism, but they fail to address the concerns of the American populace and detriments to foreign countries that lose people. Due to lack of enforcement, illegal immigration occurs widely in the U.S., especially along the Mexican border.

To some people, the value of American citizenship has increased greatly since the founding of the Republic. There are 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States and it would be very costly to deport all these people. It becomes more complicated as they marry and have children which are then legal US citizens. There is a discussion of allowing these 12 million people to follow certain steps to become citizens that can pay taxes and become more contributing members of society. Some people view this as granting amnesty to criminals but do not offer an actual solution to the immigration problem.

While Congress considers new laws, the federal government is left with the task of enforcing existing laws fairly. For example, on November 14, 2016, the US Department of Justice filed a suit against two Washington State-based potato processing companies for discriminating against immigrant workers. These companies had allowed citizens flexibility in proving their status, but had unfairly limited immigrants in to prove their work authorization.[11]

A Harvard/Harris Poll conducted in the Summer of 2019 revealed that 69 percent of swing voters said they are somewhat unlikely or very unlikely to support a 2020 presidential candidate that supports opening the U.S.-Mexico border to more illegal and legal immigration. Overall, about 64 percent of registered voters said they would be more unlikely to support a 2020 presidential candidate that backs increasing illegal and legal immigration to the country — including about 63 percent of Generation X voters, 45 percent of Democrats, and 66 percent of voters who describe themselves as “moderate.”[12]


You see, they assume there's a PROBLEM.

the web site in infamous

 

[Wilson23]

One suspects this would not be the issue it is if the would-be immigrants at this period of American history were white.

 

[Wilson23]

Nobody likes to talk about this, but we NEED immigrants -- we have a grayby boom going on.

 

[Wilson23]

No one can yet give any reason why immigration is a problem.

 

[latecomer91364]

Illegal immigration is down solely because of Trump.

So the idiot OP thought this thread would be a winner for him?

LOLLOL LOL LOL LOL!

 

[Wilson23]

Illegal immigration is down solely because of Trump.

And that hasn't improved anything -- has it?

 

[Sir_Timo_Volodok]

And that hasn't improved anything -- has it?

Unhoused American citizens in New York City have shelter space again...

But just go ahead and ignore the impact to blue cities caused by masses of economically desititue migrants during the Biden Administration.

 

[Wilson23]

Unhoused American citizens in New York City have shelter space again...

But just go ahead and ignore the impact to blue cities caused by masses of economically desititue migrants during the Biden Administration.

They had nothing in particular to do with that administration -- it had no "open borders" policy.

 

[Wilson23]

We still have no reason to think we are better off WITHOUT the deported immigrants.

 

[Sir_Timo_Volodok]

it had no "open borders" policy.

Not officially. They just did almost nothing to discourage it until they realized it was a political albatross. You can see the spike in the data yourself if you care to go look.

Now, you wouldn't be wrong to point out the GOP tanked efforts at immigration reform. But I'm not wrong in pointing out the administration waited until the eleventh hour before they tried. If they had tried in 2021 or 2022...

We still have no reason to think we are better off WITHOUT the deported immigrants.

I gave you a reason. Significantly less burden on public services. You just don't want to acknowledge it, lol

 

[Wilson23]

I gave you a reason. Significantly less burden on public services. You just don't want to acknowledge it, lol

But that is NOT a problem. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myths...tes#.22Illegal_immigrants_do_not_pay_taxes.22

 

[Bray123]

If immigration was a problem Border Patrol would be patrolling the border, instead of making a nuisance of themselves 7hrs drive away.

 

[Wilson23]

If immigration was a problem Border Patrol would be patrolling the border, instead of making a nuisance of themselves 7hrs drive away.

They leave the border to Paw Patrol.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

They leave the border to Paw Patrol.

lol isnt that a kids show about dogs being cops

 

[Wilson23]

lol isnt that a kids show about dogs being cops

Well, emergency/rescue workers in general.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

Well, emergency/rescue workers in general.

oh ok