I'm so sick of people making excuses for terrorists

[miles]

While these animals are murdering innocent men, women, and children, some of you act as though these sub-humans are "acting out" because of Iraq, oil, Jews, Israel, capitalism, and so on ad nauseum.

Shove it up your ass.

 

[RoryN]

While these animals are murdering innocent men, women, and children, some of you act as though these sub-humans are "acting out" because of Iraq, oil, Jews, Israel, capitalism, and so on ad nauseum.

Shove it up your ass.

Okay.

So, what's your explanation for why they're doing it?

 

[bg23]

While these animals are murdering innocent men, women, and children, some of you act as though these sub-humans are "acting out" because of Iraq, oil, Jews, Israel, capitalism, and so on ad nauseum.

Shove it up your ass.

there's a difference between "making excuses" and finding reasons.

whether or not those reasons are justified is a different matter.

but reasons do not automatically equal excuses.

 

[Fagin]

Okay.

So, what's your explanation for why they're doing it?

global domination

 

[JammieDodger]

there's a difference between "making excuses" and finding reasons.

whether or not those reasons are justified is a different matter.

but reasons do not automatically equal excuses.

Yeah, what she said.

No-one accuses serial killer profiling types to be making excuses.

Nor should I say something like "yeah, I reckon Hitler did what he did because he didn't particularly like jews, yah know?" should people have any right to say "anti-semitic fuckwit!".

People are trying to understand and form an opinion of the terrorist's motives.. whats wrong with that?

 

[bg23]

global domination

isn't that making an excuse too?

what's the difference between your explanation and any of the other explanations miles listed as "making an excuse"?

 

[Fagin]

isn't that making an excuse too?

what's the difference between your explanation and any of the other explanations miles listed as "making an excuse"?

that's not an excuse... that's their goal

 

[miles]

All the reasons I mentioned above are a smokescreen and a distraction to cover up the real issues in the Middle East. We're being used as scapegoats, and it's working.

 

[RoryN]

All the reasons I mentioned above are a smokescreen and a distraction to cover up the real issues in the Middle East.

*sigh*

Why do some of you people think that the points you make are more valid if you force people to draw them out of you?

Is it an attention thing? You want to see how many people will respond and thus see the brilliant thing you'll say? I think that's it.

 

[woody54]

All the reasons I mentioned above are a smokescreen and a distraction to cover up the real issues in the Middle East. We're being used as scapegoats, and it's working.

What!! so are you saying it resally is a big coverup for the Jews and the Illuminati to take over the world, Hahahahahahahahah idiot.

 

[miles]

What!! so are you saying it resally is a big coverup for the Jews and the Illuminati to take over the world, Hahahahahahahahah idiot.

Woody, you're undoubtedly one of the dumbest motherfuckers ever to show his ass on Lit. You're even dumber than Rory, which is a feat in itself.

 

[WickedEyes]

I think what sucks is that people are ignorant and innocent, and they don't realize that these terrorists all need to die. There is no and, if's or buts about it, they have to be eliminated. These people think the terrorists are misunderstood, or try to find a reason behind what they do - what they don't realize is that it doesn't matter, they don't give one *shit* what you think and would kill you if it would serve their cause.

 

[bg23]

that's not an excuse... that's their goal

iraq israel and oil - they're also acting out against those for a goal.

so in which way do you suppose global domination can be said to be a reason, and not an excuse?

goal and excuse need not be mutually exclusive.

my point is, goals, reasons, explanations need not be excuses, no matter what they are.

All the reasons I mentioned above are a smokescreen and a distraction to cover up the real issues in the Middle East. We're being used as scapegoats, and it's working.

so what you're saying is, those reasons ARE indeed reasons, NOT excuses - they're simply not the REAL reasons, which are different.

well why not say that in the first place?

 

[bg23]

I think what sucks is that people are ignorant and innocent, and they don't realize that these terrorists all need to die. There is no and, if's or buts about it, they have to be eliminated. These people think the terrorists are misunderstood, or try to find a reason behind what they do - what they don't realize is that it doesn't matter, they don't give one *shit* what you think and would kill you if it would serve their cause.

*coughs*

 

[woody54]

I think what sucks is that people are ignorant and innocent, and they don't realize that these terrorists all need to die. There is no and, if's or buts about it, they have to be eliminated. These people think the terrorists are misunderstood, or try to find a reason behind what they do - what they don't realize is that it doesn't matter, they don't give one *shit* what you think and would kill you if it would serve their cause.

First off, you need to be very clear on how you define terrorism because the US is clearly identified offshore in the same league with their activities in many countries around the world.

Do unto others I say and if you suggest all guilty terrorists should be dealt with , I agree.
I gag a bit on self righteous selection methods though.

 

[woody54]

so what you're saying is, those reasons ARE indeed reasons, NOT excuses - they're simply not the REAL reasons, which are different.

well why not say that in the first place?

What we have here is case of poor communication. You cant expect more from an IQ that barely reaches double figures.

 

[RoryN]

I think what sucks is that people are ignorant and innocent, and they don't realize that these terrorists all need to die. There is no and, if's or buts about it, they have to be eliminated.

Hee hee. You're funny!

 

[Fagin]

iraq israel and oil - they're also acting out against those for a goal.

so in which way do you suppose global domination can be said to be a reason, and not an excuse?

goal and excuse need not be mutually exclusive.

my point is, goals, reasons, explanations need not be excuses, no matter what they are.

How is global domination an excuse? They want to dominate the world and rid it of non-believers that are not worthy to inhabit it.

Iraq, Israel and oil are not why they are doing it. They will incite those because people like woody there will buy into it and will fall all over them and their cause right until they are dead and will think 'oh, I deserved to die".

 

[JammieDodger]

Iraq, Israel and oil are not why they are doing it. They will incite those because people like woody there will buy into it and will fall all over them and their cause right until they are dead and will think 'oh, I deserved to die".

No. Because I could say for instance, "I believe they're doing it because of Iraq or whatever" and I could then say "but I believe their motives are wrong".. in much the same way as you might, uhh, agree with their theoretical, uhm, "global domination" plan.

Reasons != excuses.

 

[bg23]

How is global domination an excuse? They want to dominate the world and rid it of non-believers that are not worthy to inhabit it.

Iraq, Israel and oil are not why they are doing it. They will incite those because people like woody there will buy into it and will fall all over them and their cause right until they are dead and will think 'oh, I deserved to die".

exactly - and now we come to the crux of what i was arguing.

why isn't it an excuse?

it's not an excuse because it does not JUSTIFY their actions.

an excuse is a reason by which one's actions can be justified.

global domination cannot be an excuse because it cannot be justified.

iraq, israel, and oil are not excuses either

why? because they are not justifications for the terrorists actions - and they are not being used in such a way.

you say they are not the reasons behind the terrorists' actions - i agree.

they are not reasons, then - but neither are they excuses.

do you see my point now?

 

[adajh588]

First off, you need to be very clear on how you define terrorism because the US is clearly identified offshore in the same league with their activities in many countries around the world.

How do I define terrorism? Let's see....flying planes into two buildings that hold nothing more than average people doing their damn jobs, blowing up buses and trains full of citizens of a country that have NOTHING to do with how their countries government is being run, putting car bombs beside restauraunts full of normal people eating without any reason behind it.

I understand terrorists blowing up the White House, The Pentagon, and things of this nature...though it is still not right, but there is absolutely no excuses made for the damn lowlifes that kill women, men, and children who have done nothing wrong.

 

[miles]

All you have to do is look at some of the responses in this thread to understand why I used the word "excuses."

 

[bg23]

All you have to do is look at some of the responses in this thread to understand why I used the word "excuses."

i'm slow
explain for me, please?

 

[bg23]

How do I define terrorism? Let's see....flying planes into two buildings that hold nothing more than average people doing their damn jobs, blowing up buses and trains full of citizens of a country that have NOTHING to do with how their countries government is being run, putting car bombs beside restauraunts full of normal people eating without any reason behind it.

I understand terrorists blowing up the White House, The Pentagon, and things of this nature...though it is still not right, but there is absolutely no excuses made for the damn lowlifes that kill women, men, and children who have done nothing wrong.

people who work in the whitehouse and pentagon are innocent and have done nothing wrong too.

it is wrong, period, to kill anyone.

except maybe the really evil fucks, but i leave that to texas.

 

[LeahLo519]

There is not and never will be a good enough excuse for terrorism.