I'm so fucking ready to blow my fucking brains out.

[litfan10]

Thanks. Just an example how easy it is to misread and not completely read everything passing by. And quite a timely point, I would say.

I'm sorry if you folks think I'm taking the Dr. Phil position in the Dr. Phil way (which I probably am). But I have children and grandchildren myself. And what you may see as a breezy Internet "what we do" here, I can't help but see as a perpetuated, enabled mistake.

I find you have points that certainly should be aired but it is your gruffness, er lack of diplomacy, reads like an attack approach which hinders your message. Just as you don't like the foulness of T your aggressive tone gives her and others the same feeling back.

I have two children, one adult and one teenager, and I am a teacher who has worked with troubled kids so it is not "breezy Internet" to me at all. T is in a bad spot and incredibly frustrated literally out of her mind, so it is hard to figure what to do to make it better, that is not enabling. Please read through the whole thread first including her link and maybe it will make more sense.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

I'm doing laundry which at the moment is giving me a sense of piece. Who would have thought I'd be grateful for mounds and mounds of filthy clothes??!!

 

[Miss_Pixie]

*hugs*

 

[litfan10]

I'm doing laundry which at the moment is giving me a sense of piece. Who would have thought I'd be grateful for mounds and mounds of filthy clothes??!!

but clothes that are getting clean - I see a metaphor there that your subconscious grasped! Friday is coming my dear!

 

[theravenfox]

Furthermore...

My family and I found ourselves in a bit of a similar situation not long ago. No monster kids, but we had to be constantly viligent to keep from having our children mistreated by our roommates. There are other similarities, such as the condition of the house. We moved in naively and then became stuck due to financial circumstances. We got out as soon as possible and haven't looked back since.

 

[sr71plt]

I find you have points that certainly should be aired but it is your gruffness, er lack of diplomacy, reads like an attack approach which hinders your message. Just as you don't like the foulness of T your aggressive tone gives her and others the same feeling back.

Oh, if I used "fuck" from stern to post and called her a "dumbass" and "fucking dicksucker" that would have been better? More diplomatic, would it be? (And I don't think you have a clue about how diplomats do their jobs anyway.)

You just can't let loose of the enabler role.

Again, it may be the Dr. Phil approach. But as she's describing the uncontrolled "brats," all I am thinking is that she needs to have her own butt kicked up between her teeth in a reality check by her identical attitude herself (no, not, literally--now someone will tee of on me on that to avoid the real issue/problem in this thread. )--and what she's describing is quite likely a generational situation that isn't going to stop until somebody gets somebody's attention in that family. I certainly don't see any redeeming qualities in her in what she's posted here.

And from what I can see, I probably care more about the situation than most of the rest of you do. You're just taking the easy out.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

*hugs*

but clothes that are getting clean - I see a metaphor there that your subconscious grasped! Friday is coming my dear!

Oh my goddess...I'm so out of it I can't even spell peace!!
Clean clothes and a clean laundry room both make me feel better about life in general.

Furthermore...

My family and I found ourselves in a bit of a similar situation not long ago. No monster kids, but we had to be constantly viligent to keep from having our children mistreated by our roommates. There are other similarities, such as the condition of the house. We moved in naively and then became stuck due to financial circumstances. We got out as soon as possible and haven't looked back since.

Which is exactly how it's going to be when I get my baby and myself out of here, and then back to MD.

 

[scouries]

OK, I’ll admit it. I’m a sucker for these kinds of threads. Invariably when I see one of them (and unfortunately they pop up every couple of weeks or so) my immediate reaction is “here we go again”. Another fiction writer trying to see what kind of reaction she can get. And yes, these threads are almost always started by women.

I never believe them (which has got me into trouble the odd time).

The pilot is of course right this time. An unusual occurrence maybe, but it doesn’t change the truth.

What country is this girl living in?
Is she an adult?
Does she have any parenting skills at all?
You’re in a “suburb” and you can’t get to a store?
And can’t phone?
Can’t you ask a neighbor or passerby if you can borrow their phone?
What about skype? Do you not have anyone you can call?
The kids bothering you? Take your daughter and go for a walk.
You’re spending your time on a porn site when you have all these problems in your life?

How old is your daughter? In the long term I’m as concerned for her as I am for the three boys.

And while I’m sorry to hear your problems (if true) your child shouldn’t be in this environment. And that’s your responsibility. And if you can't cope you better find someone who can for your childs sake. So stop whining and start acting.

Get professional help a.s.a.p.

jrs esq.

 

[cloudy]

You mean any more than TF does by quoting me as posting something I didn't post?

Try separating the issue from your ragging campaign on me, Cloudy. As snotty as you are, you seem to have your head together on parenting.

Look at what's posted--and then see if you want to jump in on this enabling of juvenile attitude and potty mouth. You think she's any help to the situation where she is? (Yeah, right.)

But this is just the Internet, right? It doesn't matter if you help solidify bad behavior. It's all make believe anyway.

A campaign against you?

Whatever. I think you're the one being snotty in this instance. So you don't want to read another rant. Good for you. Don't read it. It doesn't give you license to jump down someone's throat because you don't want to read it. Weren't you the one so against any kind of moderation on this board?

I agree - we don't need to have limits put on what we post here, and if that means that we have to exercise our adult judgment, then that means don't read it.

Some people have very little in the way of emotional support in RL, so find it where they can. If you have a great support system, then I'm happy for you, but not everyone does.

Chill out. Don't read things that don't interest you, and please stop busting people's asses for venting now and then.

 

[MagicaPractica]

*hugs* It'll be over soon. In the meantime, would it be possible to turn the caption on the TV on? You might leave the kids a little better off than you found them. Studies have shown that kids who at least watch the TV with captions on learn to read faster and have better scores on standarized tests.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

*hugs* It'll be over soon. In the meantime, would it be possible to turn the caption on the TV on? You might leave the kids a little better off than you found them. Studies have shown that kids who at least watch the TV with captions on learn to read faster and have better scores on standarized tests.

Oh wow...I had no idea. That's awesome! Will do! Thanks hon

 

[voluptuary_manque]

*hugs* It'll be over soon. In the meantime, would it be possible to turn the caption on the TV on? You might leave the kids a little better off than you found them. Studies have shown that kids who at least watch the TV with captions on learn to read faster and have better scores on standarized tests.

Do they now? Hmmm . . . verrrrrrrrry innnnnnnteresting! Do you think you could PM me some references or links? I'll forward them to my old school. Lord knows, some of our little buggers can us any help they can get!

 

[Sweet_Pea24]

I'm so ready to have a baby! If he/she is anything like their dad though, they'll be some little monsters too. And of course that's who Id blame it on.

 

[sr71plt]

A campaign against you?

Whatever. I think you're the one being snotty in this instance. So you don't want to read another rant. Good for you. Don't read it. It doesn't give you license to jump down someone's throat because you don't want to read it. Weren't you the one so against any kind of moderation on this board?

I agree - we don't need to have limits put on what we post here, and if that means that we have to exercise our adult judgment, then that means don't read it.

Some people have very little in the way of emotional support in RL, so find it where they can. If you have a great support system, then I'm happy for you, but not everyone does.

Chill out. Don't read things that don't interest you, and please stop busting people's asses for venting now and then.

Remind me to make out a "Little Miss Self-Righteous" award for you. You can put it next to the "Miss Two-Faced" one you already have.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Remind me to make out a "Little Miss Self-Righteous" award for you. You can put it next to the "Miss Two-Faced" one you already have.

My belly-laugh for the day. Thanks, pilot!

 

[sr71plt]

Whatever. I think you're the one being snotty in this instance. So you don't want to read another rant. Good for you. Don't read it. It doesn't give you license to jump down someone's throat because you don't want to read it. Weren't you the one so against any kind of moderation on this board?

I never said I didn't want to read the thread, did I? Try reading the whole thread before posting D). I post because the children in this description need an adult doing something to keep something from perpetuating in their family, and TF is showing absolutely no indication she is that adult. If she chooses to post her dirty linen here, it's my privilege to say she's off base, if I think she is.

Too bad you are more interested in ragging on me and enabling her unconstructive responses than doing anything constructive about the situation.

At the minimum she should be told to get herself back in control and decide she's going to be one of the adults here, not one of the children. And if she posts her rant here, she needs to be prepared to get responses--sometimes ones she doesn't want to hear.

 

[cloudy]

Too bad you are more interested in ragging on me and enabling her unconstructive responses than doing anything constructive about the situation.

Right. I'm the one following you around making snarky comments every chance I get.

Whatever. People can read.

I'm done here.

 

[Sweet_Pea24]

I tried. Didn't see it through the "sittin' on my hands and cursing" ranting.

I'm beginning to think this is what happens when siblings marry...And abuse their children - Anally...With a cattle prod.

Question - Why do you even care that she made a rant? It isn't like she hijacked anyone's thread for it. Everyone was fine and happy until you showed up. This is like the second time I've seen this. The last was to me, but I took care of that issue me thinks - seems some people thinks it's cute to pick on the newbies, point being - What is it that drives the assholishness? Why do people want to hijack threads where people are just posting along and discussing a topic with their BS? What drives that?

Do you know anything at all about kids other than how to act like one? I mean you have THAT down. WTF cares if it's a sexually explicit site?

Is this why some animals eat their young?...YOU make the call!

 

[sr71plt]

I'm beginning to think this is what happens when siblings marry...And abuse their children - Anally...With a cattle prod.

Question - Why do you even care that she made a rant? It isn't like she hijacked anyone's thread for it. Everyone was fine and happy until you showed up. This is like the second time I've seen this. The last was to me, but I took care of that issue me thinks - seems some people thinks it's cute to pick on the newbies, point being - What is it that drives the assholishness? Why do people want to hijack threads where people are just posting along and discussing a topic with their BS? What drives that?

Do you know anything at all about kids other than how to act like one? I mean you have THAT down. WTF cares if it's a sexually explicit site?

Is this why some animals eat their young?...YOU make the call!

Isn't the question: why post if you can't face the variety of responses?

I posted what I thought was appropriate to what she was posting.

This isn't her playground any more than it's mine (or yours).

She's not a newbie, by the way--and what I've posted to her is in a whole higher-level of civility than she's posted to me. Not that you enablers choose to notice.

Tough.

 

[sr71plt]

Right. I'm the one following you around making snarky comments every chance I get.

Well, yes, on this thread. Of course. As you say, it's right here on the thread for anyone to see.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

And we know this how? By osmosis?

With your attitude and mouth, I'd say you're just another one of the brats. Meh.

and I see you're still an egotistical ass.

 

[sr71plt]

and I see you're still an egotistical ass.

Well, see, you guys are moving to a higher level of civility already. "Egotistical ass" is a whole lot more civil than "dumbass fucking dicksucker." And more literary too--it's almost like we are in the "Author's Hangout" area. See, we're making progress here.

So, what Abstruse, I'll put you down as one vote for TF being a sterling adult model for those children and constructively approaching her situation, shall I?

Well, sure, let's all the enablers here slide off the issue by making me the issue.

 

[theravenfox]

Wasn't the original "issue" that she was having a bad day and trying to wait out a bad situation and trying to hold onto her sanity long enough to get her and her daughter away from bad circumstances? I think all she was looking for was some support. Hasn't she already handled the situation constructively by making a plan to move when she gets paid in a couple of days?

 

[sr71plt]

Wasn't the original "issue" that she was having a bad day and trying to wait out a bad situation and trying to hold onto her sanity long enough to get her and her daughter away from bad circumstances? I think all she was looking for was some support. Hasn't she already handled the situation constructively by making a plan to move when she gets paid in a couple of days?

Sure, and it took off from there--with suggestions offered, and excuses given, and continued uncontrolled ranting. Did I post in the first day? I don't think so, but I can go check.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Isn't the question: why post if you can't face the variety of responses?

I posted what I thought was appropriate to what she was posting.

And you got an appropriate response.

This isn't her playground any more than it's mine (or yours).

She's not a newbie, by the way--and what I've posted to her is in a whole higher-level of civility than she's posted to me. Not that you enablers choose to notice.

You didn't use nasty words to express your nasty opinions, but your attempts to judge a mother as unfit based on a pressure-blowing rant, are far more insulting than anything she said to you in return.

You are right, you know-- Trini is not a newbie. She has established a level of social trust here (Much of it is among the folk who you, for some reason, don't care for, but that's not their problem, it's yours). People are inclined to take her rants kindly, because they remember her to have kindly reactions in past conversations. Many of us don't especially have that experience with you.