I'm scared.

BlackShanglan

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How funny is that? Sometimes things like this are easier to admit to a large forum of strangers than to those one is closest to.

I am taking a medication - Adderall to be specific. It may hopefully aid me with some problems of concentration and focus that have be a source of considerable unhappiness and conflict in my life.

This is my first day on the medication. My first hour to be precise.

It's difficult to describe the mixture of apprehension, anxiety, and lingering hope with which I've resorted to the stuff, or the peculiar sensations I feel having taken it. (And of course, it's difficult to say whether I'm reacting to the medication or to my own considerable nervousness about it.) There's nothing really worrisome going on at the moment, certainly nothing that isn't probably just me hyper-analyzing my every breath.

It's just a little frightening taking something that is meant to change the way you think. It's hard to avoid the implication that I am in some way changing what I actually am. I'm a strange sort of horse; since childhood I have always loved fairy tales about people who turn into bears or lions or dragons or horses, and I've never understood why they wanted to turn back again. Yet I have a very deep streak of resistance to changing what I am. I've been offered (for a problem that concerned me in childhood) plastic surgery gratis from the concerned parents; my father worked in a hospital and knew a very good man for it. I turned it down, even at fifteen - not because I didn't think it might look better, but because it was my body, and I did not choose to have it altered to be something else.

Now I've given Shire Pharmacuetical the keys to my brain.

The old fairy tale change I think struck me as a change from the inside out. My body would be wild and exciting and wonderful, just like I felt my spirit to be. But changing from the outside in worries me. I don't like the idea of changing my body while my mind and spirit remain the same. I think part of me is afraid that what is outside will begin to affect what is inside. Perhaps I really have absorbed that old notion that the body is merely the outward mask of the mind, and that what I look like is a sign of who I am within. In many ways I think it's true of me, and so the notion of plastic surgery repulses me in a very deep-seated, almost moral and spiritual sense. But now I'm monkeying about with what is on the inside. I feel like Dorian Gray retouching his portrait. I don't know what it will lead to, or what sort of person it will make me.

Forgive me the rambling. But where can one ramble with less heed and less worry of offense than an Internet bulletin board? And yet, too, where else have I met more people who seemed like they might understand this?

Or if nothing else, take this as apology if I say or do odd things today. My mind is scattered in more than pharmacological fashions.

And deepest love and affection to my fedaain, who understood - as I knew he would - immediately and totally. You really are a wonder.

Shanglan
 
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There are altogether too many meds 'meant to change the way a person thinks.' They're all scary in the extreme. One pictures oneself constantly asking, "Hey, was i like this before? Was I always like this? Does it seeme to you I've changed?"

And of course it would become difficult, after a bit, not to fuck with one. "I don't even know who you are, any more..."

And if they wanted to spare you! "No. Christ, no, you're the same ol' hoss as ever!" but they'd be lying...

I tried one of those kind of drug myself, once, to quit smoking. Hideous experience. You have my sympathy and my vicarious anxiety, too. Please stay in touch, if you don't mind.
 
. . . "It's just a little frightening taking something that is meant to change the way you think. It's hard to avoid the implication that I am in some way changing what I actually am. I'm a strange sort of horse; since childhood I have always loved fairy tales about people who turn into bears or lions or dragons or horses, and I've never understood why they wanted to turn back again. Yet I have a very deep streak of resistance to changing what I am. I've been offered (for a problem that concerned me in childhood) plastic surgery gratis from the concerned parents; my father worked in a hospital and knew a very good man for it. I turned it down, even at fifteen - not because I didn't think it might look better, but because it was my body, and I did not choose to have it altered to be something else. " --Black Shanglan
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You, my friend have struck upon a very symbolic closeness we all share. You however have the perspective of viewing your potential changes with awareness of what may happen. The rest of us are lucky if we notice our changes even after they occur... often in a state of total denial...
"geez, the world is sooo different"
you are not alone
 
BlackShanglan said:
It's just a little frightening taking something that is meant to change the way you think.

Understand completely. Been there. Sending +++++ vibes your way. :rose:
 
calm down

Here's what it is:

A single entity amphetamine product combining the neutral sulfate salts of dextroamphetamine and amphetamine, with the dextroisomer of amphetamine saccharate and 6, I-amphetamine aspartate.


Each 5 mg tablet contains:

Dextroamphetamine Saccharate 1.25 mg
Amphetamine Aspartate 1.25 mg
Dextroamphetamine Sulfate USP 1.25 mg
Amphetamine Sulfate USP 1.25 mg
Total amphetamine base equivalence 3.13 mg
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Technically I don't see that this is 'mind altering' (psychotropic). It's a legal form of speed alleged to help adult ADHD (Autolytic Digressive Horse Disorder). IOW, you may feel calmer.

If you feel wired instead, that means you don't have ADHD but some other horse disorder or nothing.

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I'm not sure if you know, but Sartre wrote much of his stuff hyped up on legal speed.

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If you hate the stuff, I'll be happy to take it off your hands!
 
PS:

February 9, 2005
For immediate release
Advisory
Health Canada suspends the market authorization of ADDERALL XR® , a drug prescribed for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) in children

OTTAWA - Health Canada is informing Canadians that it has instructed Shire BioChem Inc., the manufacturer of ADDERALL XR® to withdraw the drug from the Canadian market. Health Canada has suspended the market authorization of the product due to safety information concerning the association of sudden deaths, heart-related deaths, and strokes in children and adults taking usual recommended doses of ADDERALL® and ADDERALL XR®.

The immediate release form of ADDERALL® has never been marketed in Canada.
Health Canada is advising patients who are currently being treated with ADDERALL XR® to consult their physician immediately about use of the drug and selecting treatment alternatives.

Health Canada's decision comes as a result of a thorough review of safety information provided by the manufacturer, which indicated there were 20 international reports of sudden death in patients taking either ADDERALL® (sold in the United States, not in Canada) or ADDERALL XR® (sold in Canada). These deaths were not associated with overdose, misuse or abuse. Fourteen deaths occurred in children, and six deaths in adults. There were 12 reports of stroke, two of which occurred in children.

None of the reported deaths or strokes occurred in Canada.
A preliminary review of safety data for the other related stimulants authorized for use in the treatment of ADHD in Canada has been conducted. In that review, the incidence of serious adverse reactions leading to death was higher in ADDERALL® and ADDERALL RX combined than in the other drugs of this class.

Health Canada has asked manufacturers of other related stimulants approved for the treatment of ADHD to provide a thorough review of their worldwide safety data. Information updates will be provided by Health Canada as they become available.
Patients taking drugs of the same class for the management of ADHD should NOT discontinue their medication, and should consult with their physician if they have any concerns or questions.

ADDERALL XR®, a Central Nervous System (CNS) stimulant, was approved in Canada on January 23, 2004 for the management of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) in children.
After having consulted with their physician, consumers should not flush unused drugs down the toilet or sink to avoid contaminating ground or municipal water systems but return any unused product to their pharmacy.

Health Canada has been in contact with Shire BioChem Inc., and will be monitoring the removal of this product from the Canadian market.
Health Canada relies on the active participation of health care professionals in adverse reaction reporting programs. Occurances of cardiac or other serious and/or unexpected adverse reactions in patients taking drugs of the same class should be reported to Health Canada at the following address:

Canadian Adverse Drug Reaction Monitoring Program (CADRMP)
Marketed Health Products Directorate
HEALTH CANADA
Address Locator: 0701C
OTTAWA, Ontario, K1A 0K9
 
Woah big horse!

-- Isn't it great to have an amigo in the pharmacy?
 
Pure said:
adult ADHD (Autolytic Digressive Horse Disorder)

Pure, you're brilliant.

I was familiar with the stats from Canada (and I think that the UK has banned as well). Have discussed with doctor; feeling all right about it at the moment. But thank you very much for the post. More information is always better.

Oddly, the fear of heart attack or stroke is not really what troubles me. I fear death less than life as something other than myself. But so far, I just feel pleasantly lively and perhaps a little light-headed. The concentration thing is a bit odd - partly sharper, partly less so. It's like have a clear-headed day with a fading-in-and-out caffeine buzz (which I have always found distracting; I don't drink caffeinated beverages very often). As you note, more a stimulant/calmative thing ... not really changing anything emotionally or qualitatively, thus far. It's something of a relief.

Shanglan
 
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fwiw, I used to be a coffee fiend, had been since I was I teen. A few years ago I decided I wasn't going to be addicted to anything, even caffeine. It was harder to quit than I imagined, and involved a lot of discomfort, but once I had kicked it, I noticed my attention was stable, clear even, in a way I didn't remember it being before.

Take Care,
Penny
 
I've actually known several people who had seriously problems coming off of caffeine. Don't let it fool you just because it's over the counter. It gets quite a lock on you. The people I knew who tried to kick it quite seriously felt the effects of their struggle for weeks.

Shanglan
 
That's me: the caffeine addict.
20 mugs a day. Can't get to sleep without one.
 
I'd pat you on the head if I wasn't scared of horses.

I'll hug you from afar. :cool:

:rose:
 
The things that worries me the most is the name of the manufacturer. Shire Pharmacueticals? What are they, a bunch of hobbits?

Take it easy, shang, and let us know how it goes.
 
Black Tulip said:
I'd pat you on the head if I wasn't scared of horses.

I'll hug you from afar. :cool:

:rose:

Scared of me? I really must work harder. I can't have the Patron Saint of Leonidas being afraid of me. I like her far too much.

Honestly, I'm a pushover.


On the pharmacuetical side, I'm feeling optimistic. It's been a bit odd, and I am still trying to get the hang of this new sensation. However, my biggest concern has not materialized. I don't feel like a different person, or confused about my own nature, or baffled by strange impulses. I feel pretty much like me with possibly a bit too much caffeine. The doctor said to give this four or five days to assess its effects, so with luck I will learn to manage that slight light-headedness and derive more of the benefit. Certainly, I seem to be doing quite a lot of writing today, if only boring other posters to tears ;) But it has actually been a pleasant experience for me; I've enjoyed my activities and felt oddly productive for someone who spent the day posting to Lit ;)

Liar, I thought the same thing, by the way. But then I remembered what they call the big draft horses in England. Shire horses. :)

Shanglan
 
A Shire is an old word for an administrative area here in England, otherwise known as a county. :)

As in: Hampshire, Dorsetshire, Yorkshire, Gloucestershire, Leicestershire, Devonshire, Somersetshire (that last one's a running joke in my family - don't ask). Not all had "shire" on the end, and most that did have now dropped it.

Shire horses come from the shire counties. :)

Lou
 
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Shang, I used to have the same problem with taking the meds I used to take for my depression. And for exactly the same reason, I was afraid of losing myself.

I handled that problem with a minor change of perspective.

If I had an infection of some description, I wouldn't object to taking antibiotics.

If I had broken a leg, I wouldn't object to taking taking pain killers (much) or something that helped the bones knit.

It's the same here. You are not being changed. You're simply treating a physical aspect of a disability. You are still going to be there. And perhaps working better because a physical problem is no longer burdening you.

I'm glad I gained that sense of perspective. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have taken the drugs I needed, and I would probably still be severely mentally ill.

So don't sweat it. You'll still be here. Adderall or not.
 
rgraham666 said:
Shang, I used to have the same problem with taking the meds I used to take for my depression. And for exactly the same reason, I was afraid of losing myself.

I handled that problem with a minor change of perspective.

If I had an infection of some description, I wouldn't object to taking antibiotics.

If I had broken a leg, I wouldn't object to taking taking pain killers (much) or something that helped the bones knit.

It's the same here. You are not being changed. You're simply treating a physical aspect of a disability. You are still going to be there. And perhaps working better because a physical problem is no longer burdening you.

I'm glad I gained that sense of perspective. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have taken the drugs I needed, and I would probably still be severely mentally ill.

So don't sweat it. You'll still be here. Adderall or not.

Wise words indeed. :rose:
 
rob's right... so's everyone else. Talk to me - I might not say much back but I'll listen/read ;)

Who loves ya baby? :kiss:
 
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carsonshepherd said:
rob's right... so's everyone else. Talk to me - I might not say much back but I'll listen/read ;)

Who loves ya baby? :kiss:

Thank goodness I know the answer to that question. :heart:

Thanks very much, Rob. I can tell myself those sorts of things, but somehow it helps immensely to hear it from someone who has experienced it. And at least after the first day, I think you're right. I very much relieved. This has not been nearly as scary as I thought it would be.

Tatelou said:
As in: Hampshire, Dorsetshire, Yorkshire, Gloucestershire, Leicestershire ...

That last is pronounced "Lye-chest-er-shy-er," right? Or am I making a bit of a Berkshire hunt of myself? ;)

Shanglan
 
BlackShanglan said:
That last is pronounced "Lye-chest-er-shy-er," right? Or am I making a bit of a Berkshire hunt of myself? ;)

Shanglan

Please tell me you are kidding?

The Earl
 
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