I'm out...

[Johnny Mayberry]

I don't think I have much else to say, actually....how strange is that?

 

[A Desert Rose]

Not strange at all. I feel just like you do and unfortunately, we are not alone.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Well...unless we decide to spend hours every day in a flirt thread, what is there to be done about it?

 

[A Desert Rose]

Well...unless we decide to spend hours every day in a flirt thread, what is there to be done about it?

I don't know. I posted my last hope for a thought provoking thread the other day and it has died a quick death. Maybe I need to post the "how do I make my boyfriend whip me" kind of thread. Those are the kind (done over and over and over again) that seem to get the responses.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

I don't know. I posted my last hope for a thought provoking thread the other day and it has died a quick death. Maybe I need to post the "how do I make my boyfriend whip me" kind of thread. Those are the kind (done over and over and over again) that seem to get the responses.

Oh, and start one about how much you love to suck cock...that one should be popular!

 

[A Desert Rose]

Oh, and start one about how much you love to suck cock...that one should be popular!

Yes. Those are the kind that take minimal thinking... explains why they are so popular.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Yes. Those are the kind that take minimal thinking... explains why they are so popular.

Well, I like thinking, I have even been accused of being good at it...I just am not too good at thinking up a topic, and no one else seems interested in starting anything that might interest me.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Well, I like thinking, I have even been accused of being good at it...I just am not too good at thinking up a topic, and no one else seems interested in starting anything that might interest me.

Sorry, I tried. No one else found it interesting either.

My daughter burned her wrist very badly tonight on a friends oven. That's all I have to say of interest tonight.

 

[Guest]

Well, I like thinking, I have even been accused of being good at it...I just am not too good at thinking up a topic, and no one else seems interested in starting anything that might interest me.

Well, if I may interject at this point...

What does interest you?

Personally, I have been mulling over the difference between Erotica, and Porn (as relates to writing). And since either is such a subjective thing, I have been considering a thread on the question. Just for the debate.
The thing that has stopped me, was the surety that it is a topic that has been done.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Well, if I may interject at this point...

What does interest you?

Personally, I have been mulling over the difference between Erotica, and Porn (as relates to writing). And since either is such a subjective thing, I have been considering a thread on the question. Just for the debate.
The thing that has stopped me, was the surety that it is a topic that has been done.

What interests me? I posted that thread the other day... it died.

And if a thread about porn/erotica has been done... I missed it.

I say... Go for it!

Anything is worth a try and sure beats the incessant flirt threads. And before someone jumps down my throat, it's not that I mind flirting, but that seems to be almost all we have anymore. And for some of us, it does become boring. Just take a look at who's not posting or who is almost not posting of late... that speaks volumes. And I can assure you that I am not just speaking for myself.

 

[catalina_francisco]

What interests me? I posted that thread the other day... it died.

And if a thread about porn/erotica has been done... I missed it.

I say... Go for it!

Anything is worth a try and sure beats the incessant flirt threads. And before someone jumps down my throat, it's not that I mind flirting, but that seems to be almost all we have anymore. And for some of us, it does become boring. Just take a look at who's not posting or who is almost not posting of late... that speaks volumes. And I can assure you that I am not just speaking for myself.

Have to echo ADR's sentiments here both in topic for your thread idea EKVITKAR, and the loss of postings, posters, and topics to subject the brain cells to something more than a steady snoozing sound inside the head...Francisco lost interest and gave up on trying long ago. Maybe we need a think tank....for me I am all thunked out on new thread ideas which might generate some interesting and lengthy discussion. Perhaps that is what has driven me to begging more than usual for some good old fashioned pain via whips, hands, canes, anything....LOL...anything to wake up mind and body!! Unfortunately, last time I mentioned being bored due to this same reason it was seen as being snobbish and elitist.....sometimes you can't win either way.

Catalina

 

[A Desert Rose]

...Unfortunately, last time I mentioned being bored due to this same reason it was seen as being snobbish and elitist.....sometimes you can't win either way.

Catalina

I play on flirt threads and so do you. And I am sure I will be attacked for voicing the sentiments of many who have backed away from posting or have ceased doing it altogether.

But if we are called snobbish and elitist, I take that as a compliment. We are in good company and we have great taste in friends. ;-)

 

[catalina_francisco]

I play on flirt threads and so do you. And I am sure I will be attacked for voicing the sentiments of many who have backed away from posting or have ceased doing it altogether.

But if we are called snobbish and elitist, I take that as a compliment. We are in good company and we have great taste in friends. ;-)

Well I figure I ain't about to apologise anymore for having a brain and using it....friend from Texas taught me that a long time ago and set me on a path to making it work for me instead of letting others make me feel guilty. It has served me well in recent times to save my life and find my happiness, all without turning me into an academic quote and language junkie, nor changing my lifelong position of humbleness in the face of the being a small and insignificant part of the universe. Some it seems just feel threatened by thinkers for their own reasons, and forget we all have our own gifts which make diversity and individuality a must and a blessing. As you say, we both can flirt and play stupid with the best of them, but we also can and need to engage the grey matter when needed or desired.....good balance I think.

Catalina

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

I play on flirt threads and so do you. And I am sure I will be attacked for voicing the sentiments of many who have backed away from posting or have ceased doing it altogether.

But if we are called snobbish and elitist, I take that as a compliment. We are in good company and we have great taste in friends. ;-)

Heh heh. I'm not snobbish or elitist...it is just that I am always right, and many people are often wrong, that's all!
Playing is one thing...but it is not the only thing, especially when people start flirting in non-fluff threads, and in a way that resembles phone sex foreplay.

 

[MasterNico]

I'm just guessing here, but could it have something to do with the lack of tolerance for differing opinions? I've posted here a few times, and more than once been trashed for my opinion, or my "different" choices in lifestyle. I've tried to carry on intelleigent conversations, but to no avail. The funny part is, I actually knowwhat I'm talking about most of the time, I don't answer if I don't.

I've been involved with BDSM for 15+ years.

I've been head DM at several public and private clubs. I've been mentored and had mentees. I (along with others) host the largest yearly pansexual bdsm event in my state. I teach classes and reach out to new people at munches and the like. I am a very "community" oriented person.

But here at lit, I get treated like I'm a know-nothing newb. (thanks to Johnny and others) As a result, I post a lot on other boards where differing opinions are valued and check this one now and then, instead of being as involved as I thought I might like to be when I first joined.

My point is, if the same people post the same opinions all the time, and knock those opinions that don't align, how long will it take for stagnation to take hold?

I guess it didn't take long, did it?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

I'm just guessing here, but could it have something to do with the lack of tolerance for differing opinions? I've posted here a few times, and more than once been trashed for my opinion, or my "different" choices in lifestyle. I've tried to carry on intelleigent conversations, but to no avail. The funny part is, I actually knowwhat I'm talking about most of the time, I don't answer if I don't.

I've been involved with BDSM for 15+ years.

I've been head DM at several public and private clubs. I've been mentored and had mentees. I (along with others) host the largest yearly pansexual bdsm event in my state. I teach classes and reach out to new people at munches and the like. I am a very "community" oriented person.

But here at lit, I get treated like I'm a know-nothing newb. (thanks to Johnny and others) As a result, I post a lot on other boards where differing opinions are valued and check this one now and then, instead of being as involved as I thought I might like to be when I first joined.

My point is, if the same people post the same opinions all the time, and knock those opinions that don't align, how long will it take for stagnation to take hold?

I guess it didn't take long, did it?

hat's right, blame me...crybaby!!

 

[MasterNico]

...and I thank you for making my point so clearly.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

...and I thank you for making my point so clearly.

No problem!


Seriously though...you have 68 posts. You may not be a BDSM newbie, but you are a newbie here. Wouldn't you expect a newbie at one of your clubs to tread lightly for a few weeks, let people get to know them, before they start acting like an expert on everything?

BTW, besides me making fun of you for having 'Master' in your screen name, what have I ever done to you?

 

[catalina_francisco]

I'm just guessing here, but could it have something to do with the lack of tolerance for differing opinions? I've posted here a few times, and more than once been trashed for my opinion, or my "different" choices in lifestyle. I've tried to carry on intelleigent conversations, but to no avail. The funny part is, I actually knowwhat I'm talking about most of the time, I don't answer if I don't.

I've been involved with BDSM for 15+ years.

I've been head DM at several public and private clubs. I've been mentored and had mentees. I (along with others) host the largest yearly pansexual bdsm event in my state. I teach classes and reach out to new people at munches and the like. I am a very "community" oriented person.

But here at lit, I get treated like I'm a know-nothing newb. (thanks to Johnny and others) As a result, I post a lot on other boards where differing opinions are valued and check this one now and then, instead of being as involved as I thought I might like to be when I first joined.

My point is, if the same people post the same opinions all the time, and knock those opinions that don't align, how long will it take for stagnation to take hold?

I guess it didn't take long, did it?

Can relate to what you say MC and have been on the receiving end more than once and it is not pleasant, nor does it promote growth and sharing. I just am a stubborn bitch though and refuse to let someone or others to limit my contribution or diminish my hope that by persisting in presenting a lived view others will follow and the sharing can be of value to someone. Sometimes that someone is me as it helps to think things out by actually articulating them at times. Needless to say, I remain, but also have interests elsewhere I am cultivating and finding enjoyable for their diverstiy and different people with a variety of input. So my thought is post away and to heck with anyone who does not agree...that is life....fortunately we are all different and what is right for me may not be for you or others....being at peace in your own skin is the key I think.

Catalina

 

[MasterNico]

Believe me, I've never stepped in and claimed to be an expert at anything. Not in here, not out in the real world, not ever. I start every class I give with the disclaimer that I am NOT an expert, and only share what I know.

As for what you personally have done specifically, I'll be happy to chat about it offline. I will say that your ignorance and intolerance have been noted by not only myself, but others as well. I just speak up now and then.

It hasn't only been you though, there are others as well. I'm sure they know just who they are.

I wouldn't have posted about it had this thread not been started.

And what does my number of posts have to do with what I know? By that standard, you should be a genius. Kinda blows that theory out of the water, eh?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Believe me, I've never stepped in and claimed to be an expert at anything. Not in here, not out in the real world, not ever. I start every class I give with the disclaimer that I am NOT an expert, and only share what I know.

As for what you personally have done specifically, I'll be happy to chat about it offline. I will say that your ignorance and intolerance have been noted by not only myself, but others as well. I just speak up now and then.

It hasn't only been you though, there are others as well. I'm sure they know just who they are.

I wouldn't have posted about it had this thread not been started.

And what does my number of posts have to do with what I know? By that standard, you should be a genius. Kinda blows that theory out of the water, eh?

Me, ignorant and intolerant? Because I am not blinded by the idiocy that has infected alot of people? Please, dude, get a clue. You should know that me and the rest of the 'intolerant' people here are real time, and real people, not roleplaying jerkoffs like you. I'll bet you go to your goofy little club on weekends in a funny outfit and talk like a cross between Darth Vader and some bodice-ripper hero. Go fuck yourself buddy, I live in the real world, where not everything is wonderful just because it is BDSM, and if people don't like a shot of reality with their fantasy, that is their problem, not mine.


Never mind...you are an idiot, please continue not polluting Lit with your nonsense. Have a nice day, retard.




(Boy, Lit is interesting again, woohoo!!)

 

[MasterNico]

Please.

Did you want to get into an insult war? I won't battle wits with a man who's obviously half prepared.

The best part of this is you have no clue about my life or what I probably do. The way you lash out is pathetic, and a sign of someone with low self esteem and a small dick. If you are capable of having an intelligent conversation, I haven't seen it yet.

It's posts like that, that will keep anyone that you may learn from away from this place, and I'm amazed that the moderator would allow such crap to go on.

The way you act here, you'd never make it in real world BDSM. No one would tolerate you, and you would not be welcome at events. I doubt that you're an actual lifestyle person at all to tell the truth, and if you are, I certainly wouldn't let you into any playspace I was managing.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Please.

Did you want to get into an insult war? I won't battle wits with a man who's obviously half prepared.

The best part of this is you have no clue about my life or what I probably do. The way you lash out is pathetic, and a sign of someone with low self esteem and a small dick. If you are capable of having an intelligent conversation, I haven't seen it yet.

It's posts like that, that will keep anyone that you may learn from away from this place, and I'm amazed that the moderator would allow such crap to go on.

The way you act here, you'd never make it in real world BDSM. No one would tolerate you, and you would not be welcome at events. I doubt that you're an actual lifestyle person at all to tell the truth, and if you are, I certainly wouldn't let you into any playspace I was managing.

LOL, you are so funny!! No one would tolerate me, because I am realistic? That's a laugh, bub. I'm pretty popular among the real time people who know me in person, on account of the fact that my integrity and concern for safety are beyond reproach. As far as going to clubs, I didn't know BDSM required going to 'playspaces', does it?
As far as learning from people, what is there to learn, besides proper safety? If you have a special technique for flogging someone, feel free to share it, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about it. I do appreciate Francisco's rope classes, of course, and some of the discussions on humiliation and degradation have been interesting. I'm willing to learn from anybody who has somethingto add, but I am also free to reject anything that common sense tells me is a bad idea.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Plus, the chicks dig me.

 

[MasterNico]

LOL, you are so funny!! No one would tolerate me, because I am realistic? That's a laugh, bub. I'm pretty popular among the real time people who know me in person, on account of the fact that my integrity and concern for safety are beyond reproach. As far as going to clubs, I didn't know BDSM required going to 'playspaces', does it?
As far as learning from people, what is there to learn, besides proper safety? If you have a special technique for flogging someone, feel free to share it, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about it. I do appreciate Francisco's rope classes, of course, and some of the discussions on humiliation and degradation have been interesting. I'm willing to learn from anybody who has somethingto add, but I am also free to reject anything that common sense tells me is a bad idea.

Your statement about "what is there to learn?" tells me that you are, in fact, quite new. What are you, 20? 24?

I've been doing this since i was 20, and I learn new things all the time. Manners and ettiquete for one thing. That and there's always a new twist on something old. I try to hang around with people that have been at this as long as, or longer than, I have. You'd be amazed at what an older gay leatherman (or woman) can teach you about BDSM, even after many years of experience

And no, BDSM doesn't require going to "playspaces" but unless you are exposed to other players of high caliber, and ones that you don't see all the time, you won't learn anything new.

As far a the people that know you, I don't know them. I do know other people that you have interacted with, and I haven't heard anything favorable yet.

And it's not your stunning grip on reality that would keep you from being tolerated. It's the fact that instead of having a conversation, you insult and strut. If that's integrity, put me in the other line.

You can reject what you want, this is true. I have been to events and met people from around the world, and been involved in many communities in my life. I can tell you from experience, what would be rejected, is you.