I'm a racist!

[intothewoods]

DVS - you must go talk to a lawyer and get some advice.

 

[Keroin]

DVS - you must go talk to a lawyer and get some advice.

I second this. Heartily.

 

[LadyAria]

To make it a lifestyle a Dom can't simply keep their desires confined to one interpersonal Slave Contract. Racism, sexism, and xenophobia are natural characteristics of any dominant worldview.

Wow, that has to be the most ignorant ass shit I have ever read in my damn life and most inappropriately posted.


DVS, darling, I feel very sad and angry at the injustice of the current events you have shared with us. It is very difficult to prove a negative. My thoughts are with you.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Ignoring the completely off-topic idiocy posted by one person here...

DVS, I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to you. I don't see how it can in any way be turned around, as a stand-alone experience, to make it positive. All I can hope is that you are able to

• Find a good lawyer to talk to about your options (hopefully, a healthy lawsuit that they'll settle relatively quickly to avoid having this kind of crap come out in public),
• Find a new job worthy of your experience, qualifications and needs, and
• After those first two items, be able to drive by those assholes with absolutely no rancor in your soul, merely pity for their pettiness and the miserable lives they lead.

I wish you all the best in life, to begin *very* soon.

:: Tuning up the DVS antenna and adding a power booster unit ::

 

[silenceisgolden]

I've never spoken with you before but I do empathize with you. I've had similar untrue accusations but I learned to play the game. I can't tell you how many punk kids have tried to pull the race card on me because all that they want to do is text on their cell phones and let everyone else do the work. Luckily I had other people backing me up and I reported the incidents to a higher authority. I would make sure to do it in front of the offender and mention that "They may have been attempting to undermine me because I'm female, but I know the company does not condone sexist behavior."

I used to think that everyday people could not be so cruel and uncaring. But they are. Keep a stiff upper lip and don't let your guard down. It's sad but even after years and years of working with these people they will still try and backstab you. Unless, of course, it's more advantageous for them to keep you in the position you're in. You live, you learn, and you're a better person for it now. Hopefully karma will reimburse you with a high six-figure job.

 

[Etoile]

I'm so sorry DVS.

 

[YourCaptor]

I also vote for the lawyer.

I'm sure you have past and present people who will testify for your character.

Plus that paperwork you filed about hostility towards you.

 

[graceanne]

I agree about the lawyer. At the very least you want to make sure this doesn't follow you to your next job.

 

[rida]

One more vote to contact an attorney.

If you sue the company for wrong termination, than the company will have to prove that you did indeed say those things you are accused of and the oner of proof will be on them.

 

[LaRocha]

Wow, that has to be the most ignorant ass shit I have ever read in my damn life and most inappropriately posted.


DVS, darling, I feel very sad and angry at the injustice of the current events you have shared with us. It is very difficult to prove a negative. My thoughts are with you.

It says "Man Hating Cunt" under your name.

 

[LaRocha]

...I hope that just got posted in the wrong topic, because that sounds dangerously like an accusation that all Doms are racist, sexist and xenophobic to some degree or another. And, in common parlance, that shit don't fly.

You should do some detective work. Anyway, all Doms are racist, sexist, and/or xenophobic before they enter into the lifestyle. The lifestyle choice is just the superficial topping on top of the racist, sexist, xenophobic pie that is the man or woman who finds the role of dominant appealing.

 

[chy_girl]

You should do some detective work. Anyway, all Doms are racist, sexist, and/or xenophobic before they enter into the lifestyle. The lifestyle choice is just the superficial topping on top of the racist, sexist, xenophobic pie that is the man or woman who finds the role of dominant appealing.

Hi.

Can you please do us all a favor and take your opinion back to the Authors' Hangout?

Not only is it disproved by many of our regular and respected PYL's here, but it's also inappropriate and uncalled for in this thread.

Mkay? Thanks.

ETA: I'm sure someone around here would provide you directions if you're lost.

 

[DVS]

There are a couple of posts in this thread I don't understand. I guess the word racist in the title draws out the flies.

Thank you all for your thoughts and advice. I do need some sort of closure from this, or it will eat me up inside. I've never had the need nor the desire to contact a lawyer over anything in my life. I've had my share of chances, but just wasn't brought up that way. Go figure.

But, this might be the time I change. I've had other friends say the same thing as all of you. Even my sisters have suggested this, and we were brought up by the same parents. We weren't brought up to be hateful people, which makes the accusations of my former coworkers even more ridiculous.

They are the ones full of hate. I can't even imagine living life that way. It's sad when you see a color and your hatred flares. Even with that, I thought these people knew me, not my color.

Of course, today this is a very PC world. My parents didn't live to see it turn so ugly, thank God. They taught me to turn the other cheek. They are only words and words can't harm you.

But I sit here thinking of all the times I tried to reason with those people when they did or said stupid things that could have gotten them fired. I didn't pass it on because I knew they were just venting their anger at a situation. Maybe they were having a bad day, trouble at home, whatever.

People get upset and say things in the heat of the moment...things they don't really mean. I know that. I can take someone calling me names, because I know who I am. It doesn't bother me in the least to hear a stranger say I'm a racist, because I know I'm not. But to hear it coming from those I worked with for several years, to make false accusations about me for no other reason than just to do me harm...that hurts.

I'll seriously think of a lawyer, to see what my options are. I know a few from high school days that have become wealthy attorneys. I even know a county judge. Too bad he's not a judge for the county this happened in.

These are only a few hate filled people. And I do think one was the ring leader and the others just followed his lead. Maybe they didn't know it would go this far. But it did go this far and maybe it's time for the gloves to come off.

Maybe a talk with a lawyer will help. If nothing else, maybe it will help with closure and healing this pit in my stomach. I've been fired for being a racist. I don't need an ulcer too!

 

[DVS]

Hi.

Can you please do us all a favor and take your opinion back to the Authors' Hangout?

Not only is it disproved by many of our regular and respected PYL's here, but it's also inappropriate and uncalled for in this thread.

Mkay? Thanks.

ETA: I'm sure someone around here would provide you directions if you're lost.

LOL. I used to post entirely in the AH when I first came here. I once went back over there and noticed a distinct change that I didn't care for. But, for the record, I do know where it is.

It's right over there =====> Authors' Hangout

 

[chy_girl]

*snip*
Of course, today this is a very PC world. My parents didn't live to see it turn so ugly, thank God. They taught me to turn the other cheek. They are only words and words can't harm you.
*snip*

Turning the other cheek is all well and good, but occasionally there comes a time when you run out of cheeks. You didn't deserve any of this DVS, and this is the kind of thing that can eat you alive.

Go for the lawyer. Go for the closure. Hell, go for the justice if it's there to be had.

 

[chy_girl]

LOL. I used to post entirely in the AH when I first came here. I once went back over there and noticed a distinct change that I didn't care for. But, for the record, I do know where it is.

It's right over there =====> Authors' Hangout

I poked around out there a few times... Those people scare me.

Ironically enough, from what I've seen they get far more brutal than any dragon's tongue wielding sadist here. Of course that may have something to do with honest communication, respect, and tolerance being very key factors in the whole BDSM thing that we all like so much.

 

[DVS]

I agree about the lawyer. At the very least you want to make sure this doesn't follow you to your next job.

In Missouri, it's against the law for a former employer to say why you left. All they can say is the time frame you worked and what your position was. Kansas isn't that way, though. In Kansas they can also say if they would hire you back or not.

But, I know people talk and it's possible this could follow me, even though the law says it can't. During this week long ordeal, nobody involved was allowed to talk about it at work...period. But the looks I got from coworkers told me they knew what was going on. I saw pity and I saw sadness. Some seemed to want to tell me they felt for me. Of course, those people were on the other shifts, not my shift. So I know it can still follow me, without the law knowing it does. And yes, that's another reason to seek out a lawyer.

I have another card at my disposal. During my time there, I struck up a bit of a kinsmanship with the client we worked for. I even applied for a job under him, but found I didn't have the necessary qualifications. No problem. I've got a couple of things I can fill him in on, that he might not be aware of going on across the hall. Now I can talk freely with him. He might just want to rethink his subcontracted security decisions.

Am I just the slightest bit vindictive? Maybe. But I'll talk to the lawyer first.

 

[DVS]

I poked around out there a few times... Those people scare me.

Ironically enough, from what I've seen they get far more brutal than any dragon's tongue wielding sadist here. Of course that may have something to do with honest communication, respect, and tolerance being very key factors in the whole BDSM thing that we all like so much.

Well, at least you expect what you get from a dragon's tongue wielding sadist. You know his intentions in advance. It's those wolves in sheep's clothing you have to worry about.

 

[rida]

In Missouri, it's against the law for a former employer to say why you left. All they can say is the time frame you worked and what your position was. Kansas isn't that way, though. In Kansas they can also say if they would hire you back or not.

But, I know people talk and it's possible this could follow me, even though the law says it can't. During this week long ordeal, nobody involved was allowed to talk about it at work...period. But the looks I got from coworkers told me they knew what was going on. I saw pity and I saw sadness. Some seemed to want to tell me they felt for me. Of course, those people were on the other shifts, not my shift. So I know it can still follow me, without the law knowing it does. And yes, that's another reason to seek out a lawyer.

I have another card at my disposal. During my time there, I struck up a bit of a kinsmanship with the client we worked for. I even applied for a job under him, but found I didn't have the necessary qualifications. No problem. I've got a couple of things I can fill him in on, that he might not be aware of going on across the hall. Now I can talk freely with him. He might just want to rethink his subcontracted security decisions.

Am I just the slightest bit vindictive? Maybe. But I'll talk to the lawyer first.

Yes, talk to the lawyer first. And keep your bullets of talking with the clients for another time.

I don't come from sue-happy America, and yet what happened to you would send me straight to a lawyer. Because being fired on allegations that are not even proved and on something that could indeed follow you around, even only as a rumor, it is ground from wrongful termination law suit.

 

[MzChrista]

To make it a lifestyle a Dom can't simply keep their desires confined to one interpersonal Slave Contract. Racism, sexism, and xenophobia are natural characteristics of any dominant worldview.

I have read some stupid shit on this board over the years, but that is near the top of the list.

 

[MzChrista]

In Missouri, it's against the law for a former employer to say why you left. All they can say is the time frame you worked and what your position was. Kansas isn't that way, though. In Kansas they can also say if they would hire you back or not.

But, I know people talk and it's possible this could follow me, even though the law says it can't. During this week long ordeal, nobody involved was allowed to talk about it at work...period. But the looks I got from coworkers told me they knew what was going on. I saw pity and I saw sadness. Some seemed to want to tell me they felt for me. Of course, those people were on the other shifts, not my shift. So I know it can still follow me, without the law knowing it does. And yes, that's another reason to seek out a lawyer.

I have another card at my disposal. During my time there, I struck up a bit of a kinsmanship with the client we worked for. I even applied for a job under him, but found I didn't have the necessary qualifications. No problem. I've got a couple of things I can fill him in on, that he might not be aware of going on across the hall. Now I can talk freely with him. He might just want to rethink his subcontracted security decisions.

Am I just the slightest bit vindictive? Maybe. But I'll talk to the lawyer first.

I wouldnt go there. Stay on the high ground and dont give them any cause to countersue if you do decide to take them to court.

 

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[your_vice]

That's terrible. I think falsely playing the race card like that is just so low.

It's difficult when people abuse employment law like that because, as you've found, it's so hard to prove your case. A year or two back I employed a black African in my pub and it just went horribly wrong. He started out very keen, doing lots of overtime and so on and he expressed a desire to become senior barstaff. After three months he was impatient to be promoted, even though there were other people who had been with me longer and no senior staff had left during that time, so I had a full complement. He started making complaints about other staff members and finding fault with them, basically acting as though he already had seniority. He ruffled so many feathers that I was forced to sit him down and explain that I didn't need more senior staff at that time and that when I did, there were other bar staff of longer standing who I would consider first. I said that he was making himself unpopular by constantly complaining about others. He had a naturally blunt, sometimes aggressive manner that grated on people and it was clear to me that if I ever gave him any authority he would be a little tyrant. I said that his attitude was working against him and that I couldn't put someone so unpopular in charge of other people. He was unrepentant and even said that he thought there was nobody else better suited for a senior post. He told me that how long people had worked for the pub should have no bearing on whether they were considered for a senior post. I reminded him that there currently was no senior post on offer anyway and I wasn't about to create one for him.

Senior staff are keyholders and have access to the spirit stock, my office and the safe so there's a lot of trust involved. In the office there's also a key to my apartment in case emergency access is needed when I'm not there. I didn't trust this guy nearly enough and couldn't see myself doing so in the future either.

A few weeks after that, he stopped doing overtime. He was short tempered and resentful, just what you don't want the public face of your business to look like. He had been polite and helpful with customers before but he became monosyllabic and often feigned stupidity or a lack of English in order to avoid putting himself out for customers. His timekeeping got very bad and he would be out the door the moment his shift finished, regardless of whether staff had arrived to relieve him or the work of closing up was done. This went on for a few months during which time I gave him a couple of verbal warnings and two written ones. Eventually, he failed to show up or answer his mobile phone for 2 consecutive days and I sent him a letter informing him he had been fired.

I received a letter saying he was taking me to an employment tribunal citing race discrimination and unfair dismissal. He even had the audacity to ask me to pay him off in order to avoid the tribunal. In his statement he also accused me of bullying, distributing tips unfairly and withholding overtime pay. He said he was the only black employee, which was true at the time but nothing more than coincidence. At that time, if I remember rightly, I also employed a white South African, an Australian, a couple of Croatians and two British born people of Indian ethnicity. It was as diverse a workforce as you'd see anywhere in London. He said I told him he had no chance of promotion, which was partly true but because of his attitude, not his colour or nationality. His account of that conversation was twisted beyond all recognition. He claimed he had carried on doing overtime and I hadn't paid him for it. He said he got all the shitty jobs but in reality, he often got the heavier manual jobs that most male staff members did. Most men will volunteer to do heavier jobs so women don't have to struggle with them. He certainly didn't express dissatisfaction with the way tasks were assigned while he worked for me.

By the time the tribunal was over, I was even doubting myself because he played the poor, uneducated, exploited migrant worker to the hilt. My staff were fantastic though and they all stood behind me. His case wasn't upheld but by that time there had been reports in the local press that he was bringing the case against me. I even started to get paranoid that ethnic minorities were boycotting the pub. I'd actually do headcounts of non-white customers and ask myself if the percentage was falling. It was a very stressful waste of time and money and it's definitely affected the way I view and treat ethnic minority and/or foreign employees. I really do think twice before I employ them now, which is a great shame.

 

[Sweetdaisymae]

So sorry this has happened to you DVS, I totally agree about employing a lawyer or bringing in union help, not for vindictive reasons, but to help clear you.
Mud has a depressing habit of sticking, and you need a way of moving on and being able to secure a new and hopefully better working environment.

Hells teeth it annoys me when people use the race card, they know it has to be investigated and will cause all manner of issues for the accused.
Injustices really get to me, feel like I want to beat the crap out of those who seek to stir things up (shakes head puts subbie hat back on)

 

[ultramarineblue]

*hugs* Sorry you're having to deal with something like this.