If the 'red line" in Syria has, indeed, been crossed...

[eyer]

...President Obama must honor his Constitutional oath and publicly announce that he will ask Congress to declare war against the government of Syria for the crimes against humanity they are willfully committing.

Do not piece meal covertly American participation in this crisis anymore, Mr. President; ask the Congress to declare war and Assad and both Iran and Russia will instantly accept how deadly serious you and the American people are about the situation.

Do a Libya, or a Yemen, or continue doing your under-the-table dealings as you've been doing in Syria for the last two years, and Iran and Russia will also keep playing their deadly games...

...and tens of thousands of innocents will continue to die while you bozos keep stroking your statist egos.

You put your veiled nose into this horrendous business way back then and it has escalated just as you hoped...

...now it's time to man-up and take open and full responsibility for completely ending this tragedy before another 70,000 Syrians have to die to pay your and others' admission fees to real-life Risk.

The opposition that you've encouraged, allowed, and enabled to materialize is finally causing grave concern to your highest-ranking war chiefs...

...listen to them, and clean the jihadist clocks right along with Assad's.

Once we establish the facts, I have made clear that the use of chemical weapons is a game changer.

...When you start seeing weapons that can cause potential devastation and mass casualties and you let that genie out of the bottle, then you are looking potentially at even more horrific scenes than we've already seen in Syria. And the international community has to act on that additional information," Obama said.

We have been clear that the use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people would be a serious and tragic mistake," Obama said. Obama said the U.S. policy not to intervene militarily thus far is based on his desire to solve the problem as a global community. "It's a world problem ... when tens of thousands of people are being slaughtered, including innocent women and children," Obama said.

...The Syrian people "face a new level of ruthlessness from the Assad regime, which is raining Scud missiles down on residential neighborhoods, destroying hospitals and schools, and sending its thugs rampaging through the streets to terrorize their fellow citizens. The carnage is appalling," [U.S. ambassador to Syria, Robert] Ford said.

...Ford said Iran is increasing its military assistance to Assad's regime and the outside help has persuaded him that he can prevail. "I think today he still thinks he can win militarily with help from Russia, from Iran, from Lebanese Hezbollah," Ford said. "But I think he also must understand as his windows rattle, because the fighting is getting closer, he must be thinking about whether or not his calculations are correct."

- full piece here:

http://www.mail.com/news/politics/1...laim-chemical-weapons.html#.7518-stage-set2-3

No more messing around Mr. President...

...either ask Congress to declare war as the Constitution dictates, or totally get the fvck out of the deadly and disingenuous "nation-building" bizness once and for all.

Either choice will serve the Law of the Land well.

 

[blue_pearl_85]

But only if the military action proposed doesn't add to the deficit, right?

Because the deficit is super-important, right? Like, it's the biggest threat to America today!

Pundits have told me this basically every day since 20 January 2009.

 

[WeedSmoke420]

*clicks Link*

 

[Ashleigh_XOXO]

...President Obama must honor his Constitutional oath and publicly announce that he will ask Congress to declare war against the government of Syria for the crimes against humanity they are willfully committing.

Do not piece meal covertly American participation in this crisis anymore, Mr. President; ask the Congress to declare war and Assad and both Iran and Russia will instantly accept how deadly serious you and the American people are about the situation.

Do a Libya, or a Yemen, or continue doing your under-the-table dealings as you've been doing in Syria for the last two years, and Iran and Russia will also keep playing their deadly games...

...and tens of thousands of innocents will continue to die while you bozos keep stroking your statist egos.

You put your veiled nose into this horrendous business way back then and it has escalated just as you hoped...

...now it's time to man-up and take open and full responsibility for completely ending this tragedy before another 70,000 Syrians have to die to pay your and others' admission fees to real-life Risk.

The opposition that you've encouraged, allowed, and enabled to materialize is finally causing grave concern to your highest-ranking war chiefs...

...listen to them, and clean the jihadist clocks right along with Assad's.



No more messing around Mr. President...

...either ask Congress to declare war as the Constitution dictates, or totally get the fvck out of the deadly and disingenuous "nation-building" bizness once and for all.

Either choice will serve the Law of the Land well.

He doesn't have the cajones to ask congress to declare war. He is just a president who panders. I, for one, am tired od a president who apologizes for his country being great.

 

[blue_pearl_85]

He doesn't have the cajones to ask congress to declare war. He is just a president who panders. I, for one, am tired od a president who apologizes for his country being great.

When did he apologize for American greatness?

I remember a lot of speeches extolling American virtues.

Don't remember the one where he apologized for American greatness.

 

[eyer]

Pundits have told me this basically every day since 20 January 2009.

And you're a liar...

...because not one pundit has told you that.

You can't play the truth game...

...when you think yourself so special.

Because, you're not...

...you're just friggin' wormfood like everyone else.

 

[MatthewVett]

He doesn't have the cajones to ask congress to declare war. He is just a president who panders. I, for one, am tired od a president who apologizes for his country being great.

So, like Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon, who all sent troops to Vietnam without declaring war?

Also: could you find the quote of Obama apologizing? Because "not being a chauvinist" =/= "apologizing."

 

[JackLuis]

Jebus, can't the French handle just one little country? Why is it always America that has to do something?

The Syrians are no threat to America, and hardly a threat to Israel, which is apparently our 51st state.

The French and Italians whined about how they didn't have the bombs for Libya and needed American firepower to breach their formidable defenses. So Obama helped them pry the oil out of the hands of the Libyans.

Now everyone is whining that America has to take the lead again.

If the Arab league can't work up the guts to liberate Syria, the French can't afford to deal with their former colony and the English are too proud to do anything, why should we?

When was the last time that our NATO allies, whom we supported all the way thru the cold war and subsidized all those decades took the lead on a international problem?

Didn't we learn in Iraq that War is no way to win a peace?

All in all I think this is Turkey's time to lead. It's right on their border and effects them the most, so why is it an American issue?

 

[Busybody]

who cares?

let em KILL each other

MORE

FASTER

 

[Boxlicker101]

From what I have heard Obama say, they need to make absolutely certain it was the Syrian gov. that used the WMD's, not some rebel group. I don't know where the rebels would get stuff like that, but almost anything can be bought if the buyer knows where to go.

Maybe somebody located a bunker in Iraq that was a hiding place for Saddam's stash.

 

[Lord_Nibiru]

It was reported many months ago that the rebels has acquired chemical weapons and were planning a false flag. That, of course, could be a red herring to divert attention away from Assad if/when he used them, but in short there is nothing conclusive either way.

It was interesting how quickly Russia came out in support of Assad on this issue. They have stuck by him for their own reasons of course (much as the UK/US have determined he is our enemy for our own), but they weren't so quick to condemn the rebels when there was a lack of assurance over who was responsible in Homs and Aleppo attacks last year.

Seems to me, the western governments would be happy to see many more thousands killed as long as they get their way in the end and it's arguable the same for Russia in support of Assad.

All that is clear is this - no one gives a fuck about the people suffering. Better the devil you know. The CIA's al qaeda in charge of chemical weapons is a frightening thought.....

 

[KingOrfeo]

The CIA's al qaeda.....

The what?!

 

[frankab723]

He doesn't have the cajones to ask congress to declare war. He is just a president who panders. I, for one, am tired od a president who apologizes for his country being great.

I couldnt agree more with you ---Beauty and Brains are a deadly combo

 

[Sean]

He doesn't have the cajones to ask congress to declare war. He is just a president who panders. I, for one, am tired od a president who apologizes for his country being great.

I'm pretty sure he has sufficient drawers in his desk.

 

[Sean]

I couldnt agree more with you ---Beauty and Brains are a deadly combo

Let me guess, every other post you've ever made on Lit is in am pics, right?

 

[eyer]

The Arab League announced today that they're taking away Syria's seat at the League's table from Assad's government and giving it to the American-backed Syrian National Council rebels trying to overthrow Assad...

...remember that while the Arab League is all Muslim, they are also predominantly Sunni; Syria's population is predominantly Sunni, too (70+%), but Assad and his ruling clan are Alawite Shia, and it is that deadly Sunni v Shia Islamic division that allies the Twelver Shias of Iran and the majority Shia sect of Iraq to Assad against, again, the overwhelming Sunni majority of the Arab League (although Iraq did vote to remove the League seat from Assad's government, too).

Meanwhile...

...Mouaz al-Khatib, the newly crowned President of the aforementioned Syrian National Council, resigned today, citing no real support from his benefactors as his reason, and more favoring putting his boots on the ground, so-to-speak, and more actively working with those striving for freedoms in Syria.

(The opposition against Assad is basically 3-headed: 1) folks like al-Khatib who are striving for liberty against Assad's dictatorial rule, 2) more monarchical-minded Sunnis (backed by the House of Saud) and, 3) those wild and wacky jihadists, led by some of the very Sharia-loving bozos President Obama enabled in killing Gaddafi and bringing down Gaddafi's Libyan regime).

Also today: the Obama administration is now saying that evidence might be suggesting that "weaponized" chemicals weren't used in the strike last week in Syria...

...but, nonetheless, United States House of Representatives Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich) says it is time for the US to intervene directly, because:

I think that it is abundantly clear that that red line has been crossed. There is mounting evidence that it is probable that the Assad regime has used at least a small quantity of chemical weapons during the course of this conflict.

There is no question that Assad is going down...

...the question is what will take his place after he is dealt with.

Unfortunately, this administration and Congress is not showing that they've learned too much from America's stockpile of military failures which similarly began with scenarios just like this...

...so here we friggin' go again.

Somebody start the clown music, please.

 

[JackLuis]

...but, nonetheless, United States House of Representatives Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich) says it is time for the US to intervene directly, because:

...so here we friggin' go again.

Somebody start the clown music, please.

Someone in his district ought to write him that if he want boots on the ground in Syria, the quartermaster is down that hall and he can pick up a gun on the battlefield if he's so committed to Liberty!

Asshat!

(I wasn't referring to eyer, this time.)

 

[eyer]

Someone in his district ought to write him that if he want boots on the ground in Syria, the quartermaster is down that hall and he can pick up a gun on the battlefield if he's so committed to Liberty!

Asshat!

(I wasn't referring to eyer, this time.)

So what's your vaulted advice to President Obama...

...who has been the chief conductor of Assad's downfall for almost two solid years now? You okay with the 70,000+ Syrians - the overwhelming amount who were innocents - killed so far?

What do you suggest writing to the family of Ambassador Stevens who, as Obama's middleman overseeing America's pipeline of support to the Syrian rebels, was only in Benghazi to meet with his Turkish counterpart that fateful day?

Reports are airing regularly now that significant influxes of sophisticated weapon systems are arriving in Syria to the rebels, all via the Turkish border, organized by the American administration and payed-for by the draconian Islamist rulers of Saudi Arabia and Qatar...

...and you only have the need to single-out a Republican Congressman for rebuke? Do you even realize what a deadly friggin' mess Obama has already made in Syria?

Do you wish billions and billions more of hard-earned American taxpayer $$ spent to mess-up Syria even more...

...or does the President do what the Constitution dictates in this very situation and ask the Congress to declare war - a declaration that would end this clusterfvck quicker than any other option.

'Cause, unless you're truly as partisanly clueless as you've recently been presenting yourself to be here on the GB, there is no longer the option of doing nothing about Syria.

Maybe you should take your own advice and write the President, and tell him that now that he's made a bloody mess out of Syria, he should go there himself to clean it all up...

...right?

 

[JackLuis]

So what's your vaulted advice to President Obama...

-...

...right?

Simple It ain't our fucken problem.
The Turks and the Arab's should deal with the problems on their doorstep and not ask America to drag our dicks though another war that will end up in a fucking mess.
So who's asking America to intervene? Not the Arab's maybe the Frogs, because they don't have the means to defeat Syria's air defenses. Maybe it the Israelis? It sure isn't high on the priority list for our inner cities. Does Detroit care or Cleavland, or Huston want to sacrifice their infrastructure any longer for someone on the other side of the world?

I'd have had the same reaction to any asshat that advocated destructive actions that lead to more war debt.

 

[eyer]

Simple It ain't our fucken problem.

You just don't get it, do you?

"It" is "our fucken problem" now, jack...

...because Obama made it our problem; a problem that's been escalating in death and destruction for 2 years now.

Where you been those last 2 years with your "It ain't our fucken problem" song, gertrude?

Where were you, jack, with your "It ain't our fucken problem" gig when Obama similarly overthrew Libya's government? Can you tell us how much "war debt" he rang up with that adventure?

How come it's only when a Republican finally speaks up about another war "problem" of our Nobel Peace Prize-winning President's making...

...that you decide to dance?

And you're still frolicking on the dance floor as Obama and his cohorts are already incredibly deep into making this specific war "problem" much, much more worse by continuing to make war against another nation illegally...

...when you gonna start writing that letter, jack?

 

[JackLuis]

You just don't get it, do you?

"It" is "our fucken problem" now, jack...

Where were you, jack, with your "It ain't our fucken problem" gig when Obama similarly overthrew Libya's government? Can you tell us how much "war debt" he rang up with that adventure?

How come it's only when a Republican finally speaks up about another war "problem" of our Nobel Peace Prize-winning President's making...

...that you decide to dance?

And you're still frolicking on the dance floor as Obama and his cohorts are already incredibly deep into making this specific war "problem" much, much more worse by continuing to make war against another nation illegally...

...when you gonna start writing that letter, jack?

I hate to break it to you but Obama doesn't listen to me very much. And your Republican wasn't talking about being realistic, he was advocating for American involvement.

As for Libya, it was my opinion at the time that we should have told the Italians and French that we would sell them the bombs and missiles they needed, but that it would be a cash and carry transaction.

Instead of ranting about the Obama-usurper and how his 'liberal progressiveness' is sapping the prestige of America how about advocating that we stop this circle jerk and address the problems of Americans in America.

IDK, maybe hang a few Banksters on Wall Street or stop spending $700 billion a year on a more lethal war machine, rebuild our infrastructure and make a serious dent in our education problems?

Perhaps he could enforce our laws and not allow the 1% to direct the country for their benefit?

 

[eyer]

Beautiful...

...Obama sends even more US troops and a US Army headquarters unit to Amman, Jordan, to assist in training and equipping even more rebels in the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winners' gambit to oust another nation's leader.

Obama is ramping-up his 2+year covert war against Syria, and now SecDef Hagle says "the U.S. is preparing some sort of intervention in a post-Assad Syria."

Too friggin' funny...

...the grand majority of rebels the US has been training and supplying are staunchly affiliated to al Qaeda - is the President going to wait until they defeat Assad, and then send in US troops to quash them?

Geezus...

...what a humongous monkeyfvck.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Beautiful...

...Obama sends even more US troops and a US Army headquarters unit to Amman, Jordan, to assist in training and equipping even more rebels in the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winners' gambit to oust another nation's leader.

Obama is ramping-up his 2+year covert war against Syria, and now SecDef Hagle says "the U.S. is preparing some sort of intervention in a post-Assad Syria."

Too friggin' funny...

...the grand majority of rebels the US has been training and supplying are staunchly affiliated to al Qaeda - is the President going to wait until they defeat Assad, and then send in US troops to quash them?

Geezus...

...what a humongous monkeyfvck.

Assad agrees with you.

That should bother you a lot more than it does.

 

[eyer]

It just wouldn't sell too well if America offered another WMD charge to the world so soon, now would it...

Britain, France claim Syria used chemical weapons

UNITED NATIONS — Britain and France have informed the United Nations that there is credible evidence that Syria has used chemical weapons on more than one occasion since December, according to senior diplomats and officials briefed on the accounts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...7a2e7c-a82f-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_print.html

 

[eyer]

Syria Used Chemical Arms, Israel Says

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324874204578440470728758056.html

The Obama administration says they're not convinced yet...