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If ignorance is bliss then there seem to be a lot of blissfull Americans. Kind of makes me sick.
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If ignorance is bliss,,,,,
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minsue said:
I would try to comfort you and show that all Americans aren't this way. Unfortunately my claws, (webbed though they are,) are out and would catch you.
Did I mention people like this sicken me? It makes me wonder what kind of tolerance and compasion they are taught in their mainstream religeon.
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I'm sorry that you're tarred with the same brush as those idiots.
About 27 percent of respondents said that all Muslim Americans should be required to register their location with the federal government, and 26 percent said they think that mosques should be closely monitored by U.S. law enforcement agencies. Twenty-nine percent agreed that undercover law enforcement agents should infiltrate Muslim civic and volunteer organizations, in order to keep tabs on their activities and fund raising.
And these are probably the same people who put $5 in a bucket for Noraid to help those brave freedom fighters in Northern Ireland.
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About 27 percent of respondents said that all Muslim Americans should be required to register their location with the federal government, and 26 percent said they think that mosques should be closely monitored by U.S. law enforcement agencies. Twenty-nine percent agreed that undercover law enforcement agents should infiltrate Muslim civic and volunteer organizations, in order to keep tabs on their activities and fund raising.
And these are probably the same people who put $5 in a bucket for Noraid to help those brave freedom fighters in Northern Ireland.
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One thing I didn't notice mentioned, and didn't bother going to their website to check, was the demographics of the people polled. (Not that it rreally matters just interested is all.) What was the breakdown according to race, sex, and financial status. Not too mention where in the United States they lived.
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We aren't inherently any more bigoted than other countries. This is an example of how ordinary people can be turned into nazis by people clever enough to manipulate our fear and anger. Has any American here not heard or read the word "terror" on an almost daily basis since 9/11? As Garrison Kiellor said, "Fear is the most powerful political tool in existence." But fear alone isn't enough, as Hitler understood. If you want absolute power - the kind that requires people to give up their souls along with their common sense - you have to give them a place to focus their fear and target their hatred. It works on so many levels: we began to give away our civil liberties immediately after 9/11, and when we invaded Iraq, we agreed as a group to blame the entire Arab world for the actions of a few.
Maybe we should go ahead and have Arab Americans sew some kind of symbol onto their clothing. Might as well go all the way with this thing if we're going to do it at all.
Maybe we should go ahead and have Arab Americans sew some kind of symbol onto their clothing. Might as well go all the way with this thing if we're going to do it at all.
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It appears that we learned nothing from Manzanar.
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Amendments to the Constitution
Article XIV.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
July 9 1868
Article XIV.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
July 9 1868
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matriarch said:
States, yes. Doesn't say that the federal government can't strip away those very same rights.
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matriarch said:
Ahh but Matriarch,
You must remember that these are the selfsame people who are so BLISSFULLY working at changing the Constitution to show their personal biases, ie. Gay Marriage. Why should this little amendment stand in their way?
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matriarch said:
No, terrified is the word that fits. It's fear that makes things this way, and it always will. The problem is that, like was pointed out both in the polls and here, the people don't understand. It's easy to criticize them, but that solves about as much as doing all those things suggested in the article. Both lack common sense and proper judgment.
People will act this way when they're scared, period. That's why we never learn. The good news there was that only small percentages (given the overall mass population of the US) were saying that we should monitor these people's religious activities, and none (unless I missed a paragraph, which is possible) seemed to be saying we should restrict their rights to practice.
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I recently had occasion to watch The American President again, and was struck by two speeches delivered by the President, Andrew Shepherd [Michael Douglas].
The first was in a discussion about leadership describing the acumen of voters:
Lewis, we've had presidents who were beloved, who couldn't find a coherent sentence with two hands and a flashlight. People don't drink the sand because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference.
The second outlined the opposition’s method of leadership.
Senator Rumson has no real interest in solving your problem, he just tells you to be afraid of it and who to blame for it.
Considering that the script for The American President must have been written some time before the 1995 release of the film, I am even more impressed with Aaron Sorkin, not only for his writing ability, but also for his political prescience.
The first was in a discussion about leadership describing the acumen of voters:
Lewis, we've had presidents who were beloved, who couldn't find a coherent sentence with two hands and a flashlight. People don't drink the sand because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference.
The second outlined the opposition’s method of leadership.
Senator Rumson has no real interest in solving your problem, he just tells you to be afraid of it and who to blame for it.
Considering that the script for The American President must have been written some time before the 1995 release of the film, I am even more impressed with Aaron Sorkin, not only for his writing ability, but also for his political prescience.
