I Wonder

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

But not everyone wants to be a clone JB.

I'm not saying there aren't tips one can pick up, but imitation stifles creativity.

I never advocated being a clone. But youre dismissing sonata allegro form bucuz Mozart created it. Prokoffiev used it for his Classical Symphony becuz it was perfect for the job.

Why not invent your own words and grammar and punctuation, really show em.

 

[lovecraft68]

I never advocated being a clone. But youre dismissing sonata allegro form bucuz Mozart created it. Prokoffiev used it for his Classical Symphony becuz it was perfect for the job.

Why not invent your own words and grammar and punctuation, really show em.

I've been accused of creating my own punctuation, or at least my own rules using it

And I'll pass on the Allegro and Mozart, I'm a Marilyn Manson, Slayer kind of guy.

 

[TxRad]

Your post has to be the most illogical crap I've come across today. Do you read what you post?

I'll tell you what was said to me when I was 18 and blabbered the same shit to a prominent author:YOULL SAVE YOURSELF A LOT OF TIME IF YOU LEARN FROM THE BEST. YOU CAN SPEND YEARS RE-DISCOVERING THE WHEEL AND FIRE AND SLICED BREAD.

You mean like you're doing now that you've decided to try writing instead of just reading.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I've been accused of creating my own punctuation, or at least my own rules using it

And I'll pass on the Allegro and Mozart, I'm a Marilyn Manson, Slayer kind of guy.

The Pink Floyd guys all graduated Julliard.

ENJOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7iHwqAj3Ws

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You mean like you're doing now that you've decided to try writing instead of just reading.

I think someone wants a war.

 

[lovecraft68]

The Pink Floyd guys all graduated Julliard.

ENJOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7iHwqAj3Ws

Right back at you James!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koovuH7zX48

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Right back at you James!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koovuH7zX48

In school, in music theory class, I sat next to David Muse (Firefall). He ate up all that classical theory.

 

[TxRad]

I think someone wants a war.

Nope, just pointing out the facts.

 

[sr71plt]

Still don't see a citation for this "phenomenal" writing style, let alone its usefulness for erotica. What a surprise.

 

[sr71plt]

This definition of a "phenomenal" writing technique is just something you made up, isn't it James? -- based on close to zero writing experience.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Maybe he means "Phenomenon-al."

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So I'm reading Raymond Carver short stories last night, and most of his stories are pheromonal (right STELLA?).

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Nope, just pointing out the facts.

I have different facts, sport. I wuz writing long before I came to Dodge.

 

[TxRad]

I have different facts, sport. I wuz writing long before I came to Dodge.

From what I'm reading here in the forum, I don't think so. Not fiction anyway.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

From what I'm reading here in the forum, I don't think so. Not fiction anyway.

You dont set the standards.

And what I know of you and Stella and Pilot and some others, Tio comes to mind too, is theres no pleasing you, ever, so go fuck yourself.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So I'm reading Raymond Carver short stories last night, and most of his stories are pheromonal (right STELLA?).

I enjoy Damon Runyon. He mixes phenomenon, exposition and dialogue-- in monologue form, essentially he writes in a speaking voice.

You dont set the standards.

And what I know of you and Stella and Pilot and some others, Tio comes to mind too, is theres no pleasing you, ever, so go fuck yourself.

You remind me of my mother. She will say the most outrageous things, and she will honestly expect people to say "yes dear, you are so wise and smart!"

If you have a different opinion, or you ask her to clarify, or if you tell her that she's not talking sense-- OMG big meltdown!

She doesn't have many friends anymore. She's had to let them go. They have all turned on her.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I enjoy Damon Runyon. He mixes phenomenon, exposition and dialogue-- in monologue form, essentially he writes in a speaking voice.

You remind me of my mother. She will say the most outrageous things, and she will honestly expect people to say "yes dear, you are so wise and smart!"

If you have a different opinion, or you ask her to clarify, or if you tell her that she's not talking sense-- OMG big meltdown!

She doesn't have many friends anymore. She's had to let them go. They have all turned on her.

I have friends, just none in this nest of asshats. You think I made it this far without pals? I dont expect anyone to kiss my ass or agree with me, but I learned long ago that its a fools errand to try and please anyone into liking me. I'm actually pretty sedate here, and measured in what I say.

Damon Runyon, eh? I'll try him just cuz you like him.

The other day I got a feedback from TIO. The feedback was from ANONYMOUS but signed TIO. He wanted me to know that he doesnt make anonymous posts on the story board. Lying asshole.

 

[sheablue]

People! Can't we just talk about interesting and useful writing exercises without everyone getting all cranky? Who cares what words JBJ used to describe what he was talking about ... the meaning seems clear enough. Let's not get caught up in semantics.

Obviously there are relationship and rivalries here that predate me, and I don't have that knowledge, but seriously.

I'll have to look elsewhere for input on writing exercises. Or start my own. I like to try to write very short stories in different styles/voices, because I tend to use the same "voice" in most of my stories, and even if that's the voice that's most natural for me, it doesn't help me grow as a writer.

There seems to be a lot of crankiness here, as of late. What moon phase are we in?

And Stella, this little rant of mine does not apply to you. In my book, you can do no wrong.

 

[sr71plt]

I have different facts, sport.

Which are what? All made up on the fly? I've asked you repeatedly to cite your source for this. You don't have one, do you?

We are beyond the realm of just personal opinion on this. You are giving "advice" on what others should do. I am asking about your grounding out of concern for these "others." You can write from any basis you want, as far as I'm concerned. And from all appearances, the only thing you've written up to recently have been unsolicited book reviews on Amazon.com and jabbing, short forum posts lacking grammar, punctuation, and capitalization.

 

[sr71plt]

People! Can't we just talk about interesting and useful writing exercises without everyone getting all cranky? Who cares what words JBJ used to describe what he was talking about ... the meaning seems clear enough. Let's not get caught up in semantics.

Well, because on the subject of writing advice, JBJ is a charlatan. You, of course, can be dumb enough to think he is bringing up stuff that will help you with your writing on Literotica and elsewhere, but if no one fingers him as the charlatan he is than you won't have any balance in the chance of not being dumb enough to follow him down that garden path (which, yes, is your privilege to do).

There is nothing in his made-up OP thread definition (which is the opposite of a definition of the literary use of "phenomenal," by the way--he's taking a scientific view (just a description) rather than the literary definition, which is crucial to erotica (seen through the senses only), or his examples that are going to help you write good erotica).

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

People! Can't we just talk about interesting and useful writing exercises without everyone getting all cranky? Who cares what words JBJ used to describe what he was talking about ... the meaning seems clear enough. Let's not get caught up in semantics.

Obviously there are relationship and rivalries here that predate me, and I don't have that knowledge, but seriously.

I'll have to look elsewhere for input on writing exercises. Or start my own. I like to try to write very short stories in different styles/voices, because I tend to use the same "voice" in most of my stories, and even if that's the voice that's most natural for me, it doesn't help me grow as a writer.

There seems to be a lot of crankiness here, as of late. What moon phase are we in?

And Stella, this little rant of mine does not apply to you. In my book, you can do no wrong.

I salute your civility and attitude!

 

[sr71plt]

And yet you don't feel responsible enough to other writers to actually answer the question on just who of any experience gives this advice for writing erotica and why--and how to use it for beneficial effect.

And it's a real joke, giving your posting history, to be mentioning civility. Hopefully sheablue has the brains to actually read your posting history. It's sheablue's call and fallout to take on that, of course.

 

[JackLuis]

I salute your civility and attitude!

Oh Jimmy, I think your getting it now! Gratitude for the kindness of strangers will lead to an appreciation of others and soon, you'll have fewer critics.

I think Pilot is right in a, Pin headed Angel or is that Angel headed pin (?), way, But what ever you all it, it can be effective to "Tell" a story.

Like most things it is a balancing act. To limit the scope of view, almost necessitating first person, can focus the readers attention on the object of the writers desire.

Of course it requires the addition of descriptive words so it might not fit your laconic style. But I don't think that a bad thing.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Oh Jimmy, I think your getting it now! Gratitude for the kindness of strangers will lead to an appreciation of others and soon, you'll have fewer critics.

I think Pilot is right in a, Pin headed Angel or is that Angel headed pin (?), way, But what ever you all it, it can be effective to "Tell" a story.

Like most things it is a balancing act. To limit the scope of view, almost necessitating first person, can focus the readers attention on the object of the writers desire.

Of course it requires the addition of descriptive words so it might not fit your laconic style. But I don't think that a bad thing.

Almost done with my new laconic tale thats 100% pheremonal. PILOT has never been right. Its all tell, all the time. I dont have any critics, what I have are AH fleas all over my wares.

 

[TxRad]

Testing new waters by jumping in head first can be fun can't it? Just don't drag others along with ya. When you go from the AH troll one week to an "author" the next, you have to wonder why people find things hard to take.