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BlueSugar

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The movie, with Walter Mathew and Meg Ryan... if you haven't seen it ( rent it ) and if you have..

Remember the study the fiance was doing with the rats? Electrodes stimulating parts of the rats' brains to create dopomine/L-dopa with makes happiness and sexual goodness... and they would hit that lever instead of the one for food, eventually became addicted to pressing that lever and starved to death...?

((if you haven't seen the movie... i didn't ruin anything important, just the fiance's occupation))

If you could press a button and get instant gratification, and it would be that good and that intence... do you think that would have any adverse affects on your life (lose spouse, job, some friends...die) ? Or are we better then that? (haha)

And no ladies... I don't just mean rubbing your clit, I mean like, pressing your belly button (some place that isn't stimulated all the time) and having the most mind blowing orgasm ever.
 
Great question.... and I don't think a lot of us are better then that. Would be pushing that belly button NON STOP !!!
 
I have problems with that as it is. I'm scared to think what would happen if I had a button like that :p
 
What if you had a lover who can give you orgasms over and over again by stimulating your g-spot until you just about pass out? Then he continues to push his fingers into your pussy until you cum so hard that you squirt? And what if every time he pushes his cock into you, you continue to cum, each time, so hard that you squirt? Would you become addicted to him? Would you be able to think about anything else but being in his bed?
 
An instant orgasm button is considerably different from having a superb lover. For one thing, sex takes time and effort. And usually its expected that if your partner makes you feel good, you should return the favor.

An instant orgasm button is definitely dangerous. It would be probably addictive as hell. Unlike regular sex, an ability to trigger an orgasm, anytime, anywhere, instantly can lead to addictive behavior. We already know that some people are addicted to sex, addiction to orgasms would probably make sex addictions look like a mild fetish.

I love my wife, I love giving her orgasms, hell, I'd love to be able to give her orgasms everyday of her life until I drop dead. Making a machine, or a drug, or inventing some way of generating an instant orgasm takes a lot of the fun out of it if you ask me. :)
 
psyche said:
What if you had a lover who can give you orgasms over and over again by stimulating your g-spot until you just about pass out? Then he continues to push his fingers into your pussy until you cum so hard that you squirt? And what if every time he pushes his cock into you, you continue to cum, each time, so hard that you squirt? Would you become addicted to him? Would you be able to think about anything else but being in his bed?

I'll be happy to fill that role for ya :p
 
Nakana007 said:
I'll be happy to fill that role for ya :p

Thanks Nakana, and nice to meet you, but that role has already been filled! :D
 
How about that scene in Barbarella when Marcel Marceau straps her into the "orgasmatron" machine ... supposed to kill her with pleasure ... and she ends up shorting the whole thing out because she's just a horny earth girl, and seems a little disappointed with the whole experience.

Damn, Jane Fonda was fucking hot in that movie!
 
I want the gun from Orgasmo! Shoot somebody with it, and they instantly have an earth shattering orgasm. Course I'd pry just sit at home and zap my self with it most of the time ;)
 
BlueSugar said:

If you could press a button and get instant gratification, and it would be that good and that intence... do you think that would have any adverse affects on your life (lose spouse, job, some friends...die) ? Or are we better then that? (haha)

And no ladies... I don't just mean rubbing your clit, I mean like, pressing your belly button (some place that isn't stimulated all the time) and having the most mind blowing orgasm ever.

Nah... most of the fun is just getting to that point...
 
Human beings have had electrodes that stimulate their pleasure centers implanted in their brains. I read about it in The Three-Pound Universe by Hooper and Teresi, and I also saw it on television, probably NOVA, some years ago. I don't recall anything about it being an overpowering addiction, but my memory could be off.
 
It's the same as being a drug addict. If one has a sense of responsibility and work ethic then no I don't think it would be a problem. Get your work done and mash your buttons on your own time! ;)
 
Popular fiction calls a person who wired their brain for pleasure a "wirehead". It is assumed that such people will select themselves out of the gene pool fairly quickly.

Personally, I'd be happy to push a button and have the sexual compacity of my youth. The older I get, the better a button sounds.
 
Larry Niven, in his Ringworld series, wrote about wireheads. People who had had electrodes implanted in their brain, triggering their pleasure centers. Their behavior was portrayed as very similar to the heroin addicts of today.

The protagonist of one of the books was a wirehead who had to overcome his addiction to, ultimately, save the world. Great writing, great sci-fi.
 
The story about the rats is an experiment that was carried out in the 60's I think.

The pleasure centres of the brain could be stimulated in humans as well, that is what many of the current illegal drugs do. They can cause the brain to release the hormones, or can act as man-made hormones to directly trigger the cascade.

When these centres are hit with drugs the people tend to crave the next hit, that is what happened to the rat. Instead of getting pleasure from a full stomach or the removal of a threat it could only puch the button.

Another rat was wired like this, it would run from one end of the cage to the other to push the buttons (only one worked at a time), however the floor was elctrified and caused pain, the rat needed the pleasure so much it would tolerate pain to get them. It also wouldnt eat or drink.
 
I'd be all over that thing. Who needs a social life anyway? Heh.

And it would be a heck of a way to commit suicide -- Spider Robinson shows us someone attempting to off herself in this manner in, I think, Time Pressure.
 
Hmm...

Instant gratification is great, but I guarentee it'll get old without variety. But damn it would be good!!
 
Astro said:
The story about the rats is an experiment that was carried out in the 60's I think.

The pleasure centres of the brain could be stimulated in humans as well, that is what many of the current illegal drugs do. They can cause the brain to release the hormones, or can act as man-made hormones to directly trigger the cascade.

When these centres are hit with drugs the people tend to crave the next hit, that is what happened to the rat. Instead of getting pleasure from a full stomach or the removal of a threat it could only puch the button.

Another rat was wired like this, it would run from one end of the cage to the other to push the buttons (only one worked at a time), however the floor was elctrified and caused pain, the rat needed the pleasure so much it would tolerate pain to get them. It also wouldnt eat or drink.

Like Astro says in part, the pleasure centers have alot to do with the biological nature of addiction. Not just to "illegal drugs" however; PET studies have shown changes in the brain in response to overeating, and nicotine addiction as well. It is surmised that the same changes could extend to other addictions such as gambling and yes... sex.

Here's the interesting reference:

Brain and Addiction

~anelize, who is fascinated by this stuff
 
This actually is known to happen in real life.

Last year a woman was undergoing surgery to have a chronic pain management device implanted in her back, the device sends electrical signals over the nervous system to scramble pain signals. Instead of feeling pain the person feels a tingling sensation.

As part of installing the device they have to pinpoint the optimal place to install the electrical probe by experimenting with different possible locations.

During the location part of the surgery the lady actually had an orgasm, this sparked a lot of talk among the locals for both male and females along the same lines, basically if you had a magic button would you use it.

It also brought up the concern that it would be addictive :)

Additionally it is possible to inflict an ejaculation by applying an electrical charge to a nerve in the male rectum, doesn't sound particularly fun to me though, I can just see someone killed by a cattle prod :p
 
i don't know if this was solely intended for women or if it is meant for both.
but for me, i would probably press the button a few times to see what it was like but i would not find myself addicted. I think for me, the whole "need" goes beyond physical gratification. Good conversation and intellectual stimulation goes a long ways.
 
So are rats different from humans, would we tap away at that button till our starved bobies give up the ghost? Or would we stop to go to work and feed ourselves?
 
it wouldn't be that much fun i would think.

I mean... if gratification is all it's about i can do that at home, whenever i get the chance and a lot. I mean... come on... haven't you ever been bored and just whacked it 5 or 6 times in an afternoon? You're not rushing it for a quickie sitting with your photos or stories. it's getting there that's fun.

One ultra passionate session that last all afternoon with your lover is waaaaay better than rubbing off a few quickies.
 
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