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Hawking revises black hole thinking - The Guardian, July 15, 2004

Cosmologist Stephen Hawking has made a last minute request to present a paper revising one of his most famous theories at a scientific conference in Ireland next week. The esoteric world of astrophysics is agog to hear what he now has to say about black holes - and an American physicist is hoping to collect on a long-standing bet he and Professor Hawking made over the issue.

After nearly 30 years of arguing that a black hole destroys everything that falls into it, Professor Hawking now says he was wrong and that black holes may, after all, allow information within them to escape, reported New Scientist. In 1976 he said that once a black hole formed it lost mass by radiating energy, known as "Hawking radiation", but it contained no information about the inside matter and once the hole evaporated, all information was lost.

So the organisers of the 17th international conference on general relativity and gravitation in Dublin next week were intrigued to get a last minute request from the Cambridge physicist to give his latest thinking on the problem, and immediately gave him an hour's slot on Wednesday.

"He sent a note saying: 'I have solved the black hole information paradox and I want to talk about it,'" physicist Curt Cutler told the New Scientist. "I haven't seen a preprint [of the paper]. To be quite honest, I went on Hawking's reputation."

Gary Gibbons, an expert on black holes, attended a recent seminar held by Professor Hawking at Cambridge University, where he outlined his new findings. "It's possible that what he presented in the seminar is a solution. But I think you have to say the jury is still out," he said.

The author of the unlikely 5 million bestseller A Brief History of Time will now argue that black holes never quite shut themselves off completely and, as they emit more heat, they eventually open up and release information. Professor Hawking, who is almost entirely paralysed and confined to a wheelchair as a result of motor neurone disease, has become a popular icon of the "brainy scientist", with his trademark voice synthesiser, among many who do not have a clue what he is talking about.

If he succeeds in making the case for his new hypothesis on black holes, then her stands to lose a bet with John Preskill, of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), that "information swallowed by a black hole is forever hidden, and can never be revealed".

Professor Preskill told New Scientist: "Since Stephen has changed his view and now believes that black holes do not destroy information, I expect him to concede the bet." His winnings? An encyclopaedia of his choice "from which information can be recovered at will".
 
God.

Now Microsoft's gonna use black holes as information super highway, like they are trying to use human bodies as such.

Antitrust sounds like ... what?
 
Madam.......<laughing>........you've a delightfully twisted mind.
 
It just proves that Hawking is a scientist and believes in scientific method - a theory is only valid until a better fit can be found.

That is a marked contrast with some of the 'discussions' on the AH and particularly the GB where assertions are averred to be facts.

However I'm a cynic. I think Professor Hawking knows that someone is close to disproving his earlier hypothesis.

Og
 
I looked up the website for the 17th International Conference on General Relativity and Gravitation taking place from July 18-24, 2004 in Dublin, Ireland. I enjoy reading blurbs like the entry for Stephen Hawking's plenary session:

The information paradox for black holes: The Euclidean path integral over all topologically trivial metrics can be done by time slicing and so is unitary when analytically continued to the Lorentzian. On the other hand, the path integral over all topologically non-trivial metrics is asymptotically independent of the initial state. Thus the total path integral is unitary and information is not lost in the formation and evaporation of black holes. The way the information gets out seems to be that a true event horizon never forms, just an apparent horizon.

And this from the introductory homepage:
2004 promises to be an exceptionally exciting year in General Relativity and Gravitation: the LIGO/VIRGO/GEO/TAMA network of detectors has begun generating scientific results, ushering in the era of gravitational wave astronomy. These detectors will search for gravitational wave signals of the collision of black holes, neutron star mergers and other astronomical events previously undetectable. The fundamentally new science of gravitational wave astronomy opens up a new window on the universe. Up until now, astronomy has relied on observations of electromagnetic wave signals (e.g. visible light, radio waves). The detection of gravitational waves offers a completely new perspective on the universe: they will enable us to "hear" the cosmic orchestra as well as to see it! GR17 will provide the scientific community with one of the earliest opportunities to discuss the first scientific results of this era.

gr17

scientist lover, Perdita
 
oggbashan said:
It just proves that Hawking is a scientist and believes in scientific method - a theory is only valid until a better fit can be found.

That is a marked contrast with some of the 'discussions' on the AH and particularly the GB where assertions are averred to be facts.

Og

My theory exactly . . .

until next week. :D

Infinately fascinated by Quantum physics, I'm happy to see this information P. I certainly would have missed it on the news.
 
The nice thing about living in Cambridge is that you can sometimes bump into Mr Hawking or end up having your hair cut next to him. It's seriously weird. The thing is that he's so recognisable.
 
Marsipanne, he was oft' a visitor when I worked at Caltech. He came for the Feynman memorial and someone offered to introduce me but I didn't take him up on it as I couldn't bear the thought of Hawking wasting time typing out a 'how do you do' for me.

Perdita
 
Update

He even has a sense of humour. - Perdita

Hawking Says He Was Wrong About Black Holes - THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, July 21, 2004, Filed at 10:42 a.m. ET

DUBLIN, Ireland (AP) -- Famed astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said Wednesday that black holes, the mysterious massive vortexes formed from collapsed stars, do not destroy everything they consume but instead eventually fire out matter and energy "in a mangled form.''

Hawking's radical new thinking, presented in a paper to the 17th International Conference on General Relativity and Gravitation in Dublin, capped his three-decade struggle to explain an elemental paradox in scientific thinking: How can black holes destroy all traces of consumed matter and energy, as Hawking long believed, when subatomic theory says such elements must survive in some form? Hawking's answer is that the black holes hold their contents for eons but themselves eventually deteriorate and die. As the black hole disintegrates, they send their transformed contents back into the infinite universal horizons from whence they came.

Previously, Hawking, 62, had held out the possibility that disappearing matter travels through the black hole to a new parallel universe -- the very stuff of most visionary science fiction.

"There is no baby universe branching off, as I once thought. The information remains firmly in our universe,'' Hawking said in a copy of his speech distributed just before he appeared at the conference. "I'm sorry to disappoint science fiction fans, but if information is preserved, there is no possibility of using black holes to travel to other universes,'' he said. "If you jump into a black hole, your mass energy will be returned to our universe, but in a mangled form, which contains the information about what you were like, but in an unrecognizable state.''

He added, "It is great to solve a problem that has been troubling me for nearly 30 years, even though the answer is less exciting than the alternative I suggested.''

In a humorous aside, Hawking settled a 29-year-old bet made with Caltech astrophysicist John Preskill, who insisted in 1975 that matter consumed by black holes couldn't be destroyed. He presented Preskill a favored reference work "Total Baseball, The Ultimate Baseball Encyclopedia'' after having it specially flown over from the United States. "I had great difficulty in finding one over here, so I offered him an encyclopedia of cricket as an alternative,'' Hawking said, "but John wouldn't be persuaded of the superiority of cricket.''

Hawking pioneered the understanding of black holes -- the matter-consuming vortexes created when stars collapse -- in the mid-1970s. He has previously insisted that the holes emit radiation but never cough up any trace of matter consumed, a view that conflicts with subatomic theory and its view that matter can never be completely destroyed.

Hawking, a mathematics professor at Cambridge University, shot to international fame with his best-selling book "A Brief History of Time,'' which sought to explain to a general audience the most complex aspects of how the universe works.

Despite being virtually paralyzed and wheelchair-bound with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis since his mid-20s, Hawking travels the world on speaking engagements. He communicates by using a hand-held device to select words on his wheelchair's computer screen, then sending them to a speech synthesizer.

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Hawking's site, www.hawking.org.uk
 
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