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I watch a lot of the doom and gloom movies and docudramas on the cable, and I've decide that when the apocalypse occurs (zombie, meteor, earthquake, etc.), the best place to be is at sea.

Therefore I have decided to steal that boat.
 
What if all the doom and gloom leads to a tsunami?

Perhaps a submarine would be better.
 
islandman said:
What if all the doom and gloom leads to a tsunami?

Perhaps a submarine would be better.
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A nuclear submarine would be perfect, but I doubt I could run one all by myself and I don't what to have share my food.

A sail boat wouldn't need fuel, and I could fish.

ETA: a tsunami wouldn't effect a boat/ship at sea. It's just a minor swell out there, and I'd certainly be keeping cear of shore. The swimming zombies would be the worst.
 
JohnnySavage said:
A nuclear submarine would be perfect, but I doubt I could run one all by myself and I don't what to have share my food.

A sail boat wouldn't need fuel, and I could fish.

ETA: a tsunami wouldn't effect a boat/ship at sea. It's just a minor swell out there, and I'd certainly be keeping cear of shore. The swimming zombies would be the worst.
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I just learned something new.

Thanks.
 
JohnnySavage said:
A nuclear submarine would be perfect, but I doubt I could run one all by myself and I don't what to have share my food.

A sail boat wouldn't need fuel, and I could fish.

ETA: a tsunami wouldn't effect a boat/ship at sea. It's just a minor swell out there, and I'd certainly be keeping cear of shore. The swimming zombies would be the worst.
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Nope. It's the tropical cyclones that'll get you.


I promise you, you do not want to experience Force 10-12 seas. I've had naval aviators tell me they blow cookies. Everybody pukes.


Then, there's the sight of the steel of a carrier twisting; that'll unnerve anybody.



No photograph will ever successfully capture it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Beaufort_scale_12_notext.jpg

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It still beats earthquakes, zombies and no food!

There's no reason to think the weather satellites will be down, so I could sail around the rough weather.
 
Discounting the likelihood of a CME destroying all satellites will likely prove to be your undoing.
 
trysail said:


Nope. It's the tropical cyclones that'll get you.


I promise you, you do not want to experience Force 10-12 seas. I've had naval aviators tell me they blow cookies. Everybody pukes.


Then, there's the sight of the steel of a carrier twisting; that'll unnerve anybody.



No photograph will ever successfully capture it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Beaufort_scale_12_notext.jpg

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Naval Aviators are generally not sailors. Mostly they are whooses. Most of them take to their racks in Force 5 winds, and this on a carrier.

Any day with haze grey skies and deck grey seas is a beautiful day.
 
trysail said:


Nope. It's the tropical cyclones that'll get you.


I promise you, you do not want to experience Force 10-12 seas. I've had naval aviators tell me they blow cookies. Everybody pukes.


Then, there's the sight of the steel of a carrier twisting; that'll unnerve anybody.



No photograph will ever successfully capture it.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Beaufort_scale_12_notext.jpg

​
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4b1-YCTEK4

This was Last January about 750 miles East-Northeast of Japan.. Thats a 980 foot Container ship. iPhone cam so not the greatest shot..
 
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One of the things that gives small boat voyagers nightmares is containers floating just below the surface.

See: http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=38872314&postcount=96

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/01/08/ap1201081310.jpg?t=1325999441&s=51​

Stricken Container Ship Rena Splits in Two Off New Zealand Coast
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...rena-splits-in-two-off-new-zealand-coast.html
By Robert Fenner
January 7, 2012


Rena, the 236-meter container ship stranded on a New Zealand reef since October, split into two after stormy weather, spilling cargo and debris into the water.

Both sections of the ship are still on the reef, about 30 meters (98 feet) apart, with weather conditions remaining difficult, Bruce Fraser, a spokesman for Maritime New Zealand, said by phone today. While most of the Rena’s fuel has been removed, more than 800 containers and some oil were still on board before the vessel broke up, he said.

“The bow section is still firmly grounded,” Fraser said. “The stern section looks like it’s still on the reef but with some movement. It hasn’t come completely free.”

The Rena ran aground on the Astrolabe Reef on Oct. 5 near Tauranga, 100 miles (160 kilometers) southeast of Auckland. As much as 350 tons of oil may have leaked from the vessel since the grounding, according to Maritime New Zealand. That makes it the worst oil spill that the nation has experienced.

The Liberian-flagged ship, owned by Athens-based Costamare Shipping Co. (CMRE), was carrying 2,171 containers and about 1,700 metric tons of fuel oil when it struck the reef, according to Maritime New Zealand.

The Rena was hit by six-meter swells overnight and a three- nautical-mile exclusion zone around the vessel may be extended because of the risk caused by drifting containers, Fraser said.

Hazardous Cargo
The cargo included four containers of ferrosilicon, a solid substance that can be hazardous when in contact with water and can emit hydrogen, the agency said.

The Rena’s master and the second officer in charge of the navigational watch have been charged under New Zealand’s Maritime Act for operating a vessel in a manner causing unnecessary danger or risk, the maritime agency said in a statement on Oct. 13.

The charge carries a maximum penalty of NZ$10,000 ($7,800) or 12 months’ imprisonment, it said at the time.

A tanker moored alongside the Rena took off 1,000 tons of oil since the grounding after leaking fuel blackened beaches in the area and killed seabirds.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...rena-splits-in-two-off-new-zealand-coast.html
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Grounded Cargo Ship Splits On New Zealand Reef
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/08/144849383/grounded-cargo-ship-splits-on-new-zealand-reef
by The Associated Press
January 8, 2012

A cargo ship grounded off the New Zealand coast since October has split in two, spilling sea containers and debris and sparking fears of a fresh oil spill, maritime officials said Sunday.

The wreck of the Greek-owned Rena was described as New Zealand's worst maritime environmental disaster even before the rear section of the ship, lashed by pounding seas, broke away overnight. The ship previously spilled heavy fuel oil that fouled pristine North Island beaches and killed up to 20,000 seabirds, and despite salvage efforts nearly 400 tons of oil remain onboard.

Maritime officials said the front section of the wreck remains stuck in its original position, but the stern section slipped at least 100 feet away from the bow and is "moving significantly," pounded by 19-foot swells.

The storm that split the vessel will continue for another three to four days, Maritime New Zealand spokesman Ross Henderson said.

Officials said up to 300 of the roughly 880 containers that had been on board were lost when the ship broke apart. Of those, about 30 percent had been fitted with monitoring devices and some 30 containers had already been located.

Oil has been seen leaking from the broken ship. Alex van Wijngaarden, on-scene commander for the national response team, said oil from the vessel could come ashore around midnight Sunday.

"While reports at this stage indicate there has not been a significant release of oil, with the Rena in its current fragile state, a further release is likely," he said. "While it is unknown at this stage exactly how much oil may be released, teams have been mobilized and will be ready to respond to anything that may come ashore."

Environment Minister Nick Smith told reporters that the "risks for the environment are a fraction of what they were in October," though the roughly 385 tons of oil still aboard the ship is about the same amount that leaked from the vessel soon after it ran aground. Salvage crews previously removed 1,100 tons of oil from the ship.

Most of the oil is in tanks in the stern section, which could end up sinking. Some of that oil could end up dissipating in the ocean rather than washing up on beaches.

The containers, meanwhile, spilled goods including timber, wool, bales of recycled plastic and bags of milk powder. The debris could begin washing ashore later Sunday.

Some containers have been sighted floating up to 20 miles northwest of the stricken ship, Port of Tauranga chief executive Mark Cairns said.

"They have been caught in a strong coastal current" fueled by the storm, he said.

The Rena ran aground on Astrolabe Reef 14 miles from Tauranga Harbor on North Island on Oct. 5.

Salvage crews have plucked 389 of the ship's 1,370 loaded cargo containers from its decks since it ran aground, while some 98 have been washed over board in the past three months.

One eyewitness, Warwick Roberts, said the rear section was sliding along the reef.

The "stern has reared up and center section is not visible. Large breaking waves observed on bow," he told the New Zealand Herald website.

A two-mile no-go zone is in force around the wreck.

Investigations by The Associated Press last month revealed that Australian authorities impounded the vessel, but released it the next day after Liberian maritime authorities intervened, essentially saying the ship was safe to sail and the problems could be fixed later. The Rena, like many ships, is registered in Liberia.

Some 10 weeks later, the Rena ran full-steam into a well-marked reef off the coast of New Zealand. It's not clear whether the previously identified problems played any role.

The captain and Rena's navigating officer face criminal charges of operating a ship in a dangerous or risky manner, polluting the environment and altering the ship's documents after the crash.


http://www.npr.org/2012/01/08/144849383/grounded-cargo-ship-splits-on-new-zealand-reef
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Those who go to sea know there's one overarching rule that governs decisions about piloting, navigation, anchoring, storm tactics, sail area, naval architecture, passage-making and ship handling:



"There's no such thing as 'too conservative.' "​



 
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