I have a question, why is it called...

[Carmen]

Good Friday?

What was good about that day?
In Danish it is called langfredag (translation=Long Friday).
I can understand why some one would call it Long Friday, it must have been a very long day on the cross for Jesus, but I don’t think that he had a very good day.
Please enlighten me.

 

[Pyper]

It's good because the idea was that Jesus was supposed to die, thus giving humans eternal life, by some strange logic. So: good for us, bad for Jesus.

 

[Carmen]

Thanks Pyper this has been puzzling me all day.

 

[MinkSoul]

i thought it was to differentiate it from the rest of Holy Week because it was The Big Day...

 

[fgarvb1]

Grafting is a christian art form fron early A.D.

because to early church fathers it seemed like they were losing the people to the pagan holiday's full of parties and
such they grafted the death and resurrection of jesus on to a couple of pagan holidays. good friday and easter did not start out christain. they are much older.

Christmas is another one.

[Edited by fgarvb1 on 04-14-2001 at 07:03 PM]

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

And then God will kill all the fags, right fgarvb1?

Easter is calculated at a different time every year, and the calculation has nothing to do with the pagans you numnutz. Go read another religion comic book.

 

[OUTSIDER]

The long good friday.....now there was a film.....talk about swearing.

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Like Thor's day became thursday

God's Friday became Good Friday

Christ mass day Christmas Day

etc and so on and so forth

 

[fgarvb1]

DCl

You remind me of a dog that liked to chase a car i had.
One day he ran my car down the road barking and growling. I decided to see what would he was going to do with it. I stoped the car got out, pointed to the drivers seat and said." there it is ,it's all yours, go for it.!". The dog looked at me like i was crazy and walked off. You see he did not want any thing to do with DRIVING the car, he just wanted to run it down the road and bark.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Dude...

You're an advocate of an avowed hate monger who knows less about the Bible than you do about analogies.

*woof woof*

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Dude...

You're an advocate of an avowed hate monger who knows less about the Bible than you do about analogies.

*woof woof*

Damn it

Dude, where's my car!

 

[OUTSIDER]

Dude...

You're an advocate of an avowed hate monger who knows less about the Bible than you do about analogies.

*woof woof*

Just out of interest what hate monger is that, I've heard about the whole christians taking over pagan feasts days for years but never who first expounded this theory...?

 

[fgarvb1]

two different subjects OUTSIDER.

It seems my postings have a upsetting effect on DCL.

The way he almost boils over sometimes i think he's one of
doc's cast-offs.

lot's of infro on the web..no matter what i say i'm going to get trolled..so good luck.

 

[Todd]

Dude...

You're an advocate of an avowed hate monger who knows less about the Bible than you do about analogies.

*woof woof*

Just out of interest what hate monger is that, I've heard about the whole christians taking over pagan feasts days for years but never who first expounded this theory...?

Dr. Gene Scott http://www.drgenescott.com/TEACHING-PAGE.htm the guy is a loon and a hate monger.

 

[OUTSIDER]

Good show that man.....thanks Toddy boy

 

[Todd]

Good show that man.....thanks Toddy boy

Your Welcome

 

[CreamyLady]

I was always told that it was a modern English evolution of "God's Friday." It made as much sense as anything else.

If anyone is really interested in the history of the calculation of the date for Easter, I can send you to a Delphi forum link where it was discussed in some depth. It's fascinating, and -- like many things -- owes more to politics than spirit.

 

[Dillinger]

There are some pretty straight forward answers to a number of these religious terms that everyone seems to want to debate endlessly irregardless of the facts. Now debating whether or not you agree with the bible or the need for a "Good Friday" or the supposed events that created such a day... that's another story.

It was the same in the "original sin" thread - I posted the answer - its straightforward. Do you have to agree with the concept of original sin? No, of course not - but hell, the definition is simple.

As is this one.

First of all, the term "Good Friday" is peculiar to the English language alone. In Germany its called Karfreitag. The root, Kar, is obsolete now but means mourning. Its actually the root of the English word "care" as well. So in German its "Mourning Friday" - very different than "Good Friday." And more appropriate because, that's what the disciples did on that day. (Now you can argue the existance of Jesus, or the disciples or whether you believe or not - I'm just telling you the story here...)

Now on to the English term... "Good Friday" - this is a bit harder to trace down but fairly likely is a contraction of "God's Friday" just as just as good-bye is a contraction of "God be with ye."

[Edited by Dillinger on 04-15-2001 at 05:29 PM]

 

[Dillinger]

Just out of interest what hate monger is that, I've heard about the whole christians taking over pagan feasts days for years but never who first expounded this theory...?

Outsider - this is documented in more sources than any one person could possibly list.

For info particular to Easther try this web site - http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter.htm

Or pick of a copy of Frazer's "The Golden Bough" or pretty much any of Campbell's books.

Check out this web site as well - http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/

[Edited by Dillinger on 04-15-2001 at 05:36 PM]

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

It seems my postings have a upsetting effect on DCL.

On another thread you asked if you could "start over". I replied (below). You never answered. Until you do, why would you expect any different?

fgarvb1:

"Start over"? From where?

You forwarded, strongly, the concept of a vengeful God who chooses who not only who to love, but who to hate. This reasoning advocates moral superiority, and has been used as justification for everything from school bullying to the Crusades to the Holocaust to Jihads to ethnic cleansing. You may not be opening a new front to overtake Jerusalem, but your ugly implication is clearly this: "God loves me, and God hates you, and that gives me permission to hate you, too."

Now, fgarvb1, if that doesn't make you ripe for ridicule, what does?

If you want to "start over" you can begin by acknowledging, in every political and spiritual sense of the word, our moral equality.

Well? Do you?

 

[Guru]

Religious tolerance

I have found that arguing about religion is very counter-productive. First, no person of faith is going to have their faith destroyed by a well-executed debate. Second, for me, I respect other's views. They ALL differ from mine in some way, and I admire that diversity...

Wouldn't life be incredibly dull if we ALL believed the same things? What would we talk about?

But, there is a limit. Those who insist on proving their superiority over others, or evangelizing to the point of being boorish, lose my respect and my tolerance.

 

[OUTSIDER]

Just out of interest what hate monger is that, I've heard about the whole christians taking over pagan feasts days for years but never who first expounded this theory...?

Outsider - this is documented in more sources than any one person could possibly list.

For info particular to Easther try this web site - http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter.htm

Or pick of a copy of Frazer's "The Golden Bough" or pretty much any of Campbell's books.

Check out this web site as well - http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/

[Edited by Dillinger on 04-15-2001 at 05:36 PM]

Ta mate, gods teeth I have some reding to do now, LOL

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Hellooooooo fvgbx3, or whatever your name is....! LOL Just checking in. No answer yet. Hellooooo?