I don't understand any of this

Re: Re: I'll be back

Desdemona said:
BTK51, I truly do appreciate your desire to understand this. BTW, call me des.
I can't explain to you why a dominant reacts the way he or she does. In fact, I don't understand much of what they enjoy about D/s. However, I'm very very glad they do enjoy it. I like them that way. Please don't think the lifestyle is all about selfishness. It isn't. That is a part of it at times; in fact, I'm selfish at times too.

BTW, I'm one of those subs who has ALOT of power in the workplace. LOL. That is part of why I'm so mouthy. I think everybody is entitled to my opinion.

Some of the most selfish people I have met in My entire life were sanctimonious vanillas, who have a lot to say about what they know nothing about.

I guess reading IS too hard for them.
 
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I’ve really tried to avoid posting here

BTK51 said:
Also, I am more disdainful of the DOMS than I am of the Subs. That's the part that I can't understand (because they don't respond).

I think perhaps this is made to be more complex than it needs to be. In the end I just enjoy dominating women. The control thrills. We’re not rapists, our subs chose to be there bending over. If you can accept the arguments of the subs without ranting they are mentally ill, what exactly is it about the reverse you struggle with? Because we hit?

bunny bondage said:
nah, i'm always like this. true, a smart-ass remark will get me a slap on the behind, but i make them anyway. i'm a fairly outspoken person, and i'm never slow to make a joke. my spunkiness is something that the dominants i've been with have appreciated, and enjoyed. i don't get into a relationship with someone who doesn't like who i am.

discussions of all types take place in bdsm relationships. anywhere from "do you think we should move our daugher to a different school" to "could you get the quilted kind from now on?" just like any other connection between two people, it falls apart without communication. the one thing that you seem to be misunderstanding is that this is a chosen way to relate to someone we care for. i am not only allowed to express my ideas, but encouraged. dominants don't want to date a cardboard cut-out of a girl, they want the real thing complete with complexities.

Thank you Bunny for doing my work (good sub, have a Scooby Snack). Some Doms just want a fuck toy (all the time I mean, hell everyone wants one sometimes right?). Plenty of other times Doms want relationships with vibrant women who like cuffs and taking it in the ass. I would never date a doormat, there’s no sport to it. And sometimes I want to do something with my sub than just spank her. Again while not every Dom wants love, plenty do. If two peope both like D/s, why should they deny themselves that?
 
Also, I am more disdainful of the DOMS than I am of the Subs. That's the part that I can't understand (because they don't respond).

And we think very highly of you too. NOT!

Your opinion means, well means NOTHING!
 
Re: Thanks - Eating_Scarlet

BTK51 said:
... I wonder why so many more submissives answer and why they seem to be so dominant here ...
Might want to read the sticky at the top of the forum.

i'll even be nice and give you the link, and where to start reading. We’re not a BDSM chat room - we are not *in role* here

BTK51 said:
... As I understand it, which I readily admit I barely do, this kind of discussion could never take place in a BDSM relationship. so my question is how can both people continue to grow as individuals and as a couple without the free exchange of ideas? Sound "cult-like" to me.
Etoile said:
... Although a submissive may at times be treated as art/ashtray/furniture/animal/slut/fuckup/etc., we don't have fewer neurons or anything like that. We can have intelligent conversations with our tops, too ...
Very nice Etoile.

As to my answer, think how far out of the "norm" those who don't practice "think" we live. Now ask yourself a simple question. How many discussions do you think we might require before we start beating on each other? Think we just do the "Me Tarzan, you jane," thingy "bend over bitch?" That, inquisitive one, we would label abuse, and something you might find a lot more prevalent in the non-BDSM world, although i'm not going down the generalization path with THIS crowd.

i'll pass on the cult comment. Oh hell no, i won't. Pardon the analogy, but most organized religions started out as "cults" in the eyes of the status quo. Most of them ended up persecuted in some form or fashion by the "norm" of the day. Most of them, in turn, persecute(d) any other non-conformist group that came after them once established. Get off that high horse in this forest, or you'll get knocked out of the saddle rather quickly.

The next part gets tricky. Both sides of the relationship work hard at the relationship. To some degree, most of us continually evolve in what we like and don't like. Most of us continue to grow, and i'm pretty sure, bluster aside, most of us haven't said, "Ok, i know it all." Look at a few more of the posts. A dominant pays very close attention to their partner. How could they not if they're responsible for varying degrees of that partner's life? THAT would smack of abusive as well.

Let me make it simple. You get into a relationship and find out you have nothing in common. You lose a little dignity, a little money, and maybe come away with a broken heart. If one of us does it, they might come away with a broken mind, broken body, or not come away at all. If you think we don't pay attention and talk, think again. Read more of the posts. We share information rather freely including how to's.

BTK51 said:
... As for the D's attitude about having to justify instead of helping, I guess that's what I am missing. I have absolutely no respect for selfish people and I guess that's what this lifestyle is all about.
Ebonyfire has made this point clear time and again. Think of a pair of puzzle pieces. If the two pieces obviously don't fit, Eb, pardon the loose quote, "shows them the door immediately." i may be mistaken, but i don't think she, nor any of the rest of us dive right into anything with a prospective partner either. The level of intensity in this kind of relationship precludes stupidity although it still happens.

If you define selfish as "my way, or the highway," so be it. Better that than two years later having one partner say, "EWWWW, you like THAT?" Most of us frankly discuss what we like and don't like up front. If the puzzle pieces don't fit, they don't get put together.
 
Eating_Scarlett said:
Is this statement incorrect - Most submissives have had anal sex.

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I can't answer for others, but here are my thoughts.

Submissives may not experience anal sex any more than the general population. Some of us have experienced it before and enjoy it. Some are introduced to it through BDSM relationships. Some love it, some do not. It is not a universal demand by all dominants that potential submissives have experience with anal sex. Sexual acts, alone, aren't the motivating factor for all dominant/submissive relationships. Sex is the icing on the cake.

Sex is sex, whether you consider yourself vanilla or part of an alternative lifestyle. Regardless of your orientation, you may or may not enjoy anal sex. I enjoy it, but there's a lot more to sex than just having anal. Having sex is a total experience, rather than a single act that defines us by our chosen lifestyle.

Do we want anal sex more than those not in this lifestyle? Probably not.

There's no right or wrong answer.
 
Eating_Scarlett said:
Is this statement incorrect - Most submissives have had anal sex.

??

the only backdoor i've been guarding is my own, so i can't speak for anyone else, but i've never had anal sex.
 
Eating_Scarlett said:
Is this statement incorrect - Most submissives have had anal sex.

??

I have no clue. It really has nothing to do with being submissive.

I've had anal sex and can take it or leave it. Frankly, I had more anal sex before I went down this path than I have since embracing my submission.
 
Eating_Scarlett said:
Is this statement incorrect - Most submissives have had anal sex.

??

I would guess that more male submissives are open to taking large objects up the hershey highway than other straight guys. But that's just a guess.

As far as women go, I don't know. I read once that 50% or so have had anal. I have done my part in deflowering the puckered hole of both subs and nillas. But it is not a requirement. It would be a limit I would probably push over time. Especially if she has a nice ass.:p
 
WriterDom said:
I would guess that more male submissives are open to taking large objects up the hershey highway than other straight guys. But that's just a guess.

As far as women go, I don't know. I read once that 50% or so have had anal. I have done my part in deflowering the puckered hole of both subs and nillas. But it is not a requirement. It would be a limit I would probably push over time. Especially if she has a nice ass.:p

I did not feel compelled to give E_S an answer. I personally do not care if it or any other troll gets enlightened.
 
Johnny Mayberry said:
Why would that matter?

Exactly. anal sex has nothing to do with D/s or BDSM it is a sexual preference that goes across all barriers. I think that the troll is just baiting everyone here. By it's own admission it said it would not justify it's lifestyle to anyone, yet everyone seems to ignore that fact, and as a result all they are doing is jumping through it's hoops.

Dance Marionettes, dance! E_S and that other person who was sent here by it or another troll is here to pull this forum strings.

I for one will do what I do best, insult the living hell out of them all, as long as it amuses Me to do so.
 
WriterDom said:
I would guess that more male submissives are open to taking large objects up the hershey highway than other straight guys. But that's just a guess.[ /B]


Oh really? And how would You know?

Don't play into the troll's hands WD. It is a set up.
 
Ebonyfire said:

Don't play into the troll's hands WD. It is a set up.

Don't throw rocks in your glass house, dear. Did you know that 48 of the 415 replies on this thread are yours?
 
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Ebonyfire said:
I did not feel compelled to give E_S an answer. I personally do not care if it or any other troll gets enlightened.

If you don't want to answer - DON'T. Get a life! Don't you have anything better to do than to let the world know you're not going to answer? Who's the troll here anyway? I'm looking for information like it is described in the sticky information.
 
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WriterDom said:
Don't throw rocks in your glass house, dear. Did you know that 48 of the 415 replies on this thread are yours?

And 47 of them say you're not going to answer.
 
Etoile said:
Thank you. http://www.amanita.net/images/smilies/daisy.gif

I really don't see the need to be consistently abusive. Why has BTK51 been pegged as a troll? I haven't seen any particularly trolling comments from him.

Sure he has, what he said about the doms for once. Of course I do not care if you agree Etoile, if I say he is a troll, then that is what I believe to be true. Do you have a problem with that?

Also, I suggest you do some research as to what constitutes abuse. You do not know what you are talking about.

And another thing:

Just because you do not see the need, should that dictate to Me what I should do? I think not. If you do not like it, then do not read it. I am not here for your benefit.
 
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WriterDom said:
Don't throw rocks in your glass house, dear. Did you know that 48 of the 415 replies on this thread are yours?

And Your point? If you think you can impact Me, then you are mistaken.

I have been very blunt about why I am posting here. If you have a problem with it, then too damn bad.

And BTW, I am flattered that you have counted MY posts, I would never waste the time to count yours!:D

Have a nice day.
 
Ebonyfire said:
Sure he has, what he said about the doms for once. Of course I do not care if you agree Etoile, if I say he is a troll, then that is what I believe to be true. Do you have a problem with that?

Also, I suggest you do some research as to what constitutes abuse. You do not know what you are talking about.

And another thing:

Just because you do not see the need, should that dictate to Me what I should do? I think not. If you do not like it, then do not read it. I am not here for your benefit.

And 'he' said, "Also, I am more disdainful of the DOMS than I am of the Subs. " In case you are confused, that means that 'he' has distain for all of us.

Troll.
 
BTK51 said:
If you don't want to answer - DON'T. Get a life! Don't you have anything better to do than to let the world know you're not going to answer? Who's the troll here anyway? I'm looking for information like it is described in the sticky information.

Or are you just trying to be helpful - NOT! It's 2003 get some new expressions too (like maybe "groovy" or something else that's "hip").

If you say so.:rolleyes:

Also, I find you funny beyond all measure. I am not fooled by you. And I will do as I please, so bugger off.
 
Johnny Mayberry said:
And 'he' said, "Also, I am more disdainful of the DOMS than I am of the Subs. " In case you are confused, that means that 'he' has distain for all of us.

Troll.

Exactly.

See I do not have disdain for whatever it is. I feel nothing but amusement.
 
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