How would you show arguments and fights between a pair of sibling lovers?

[SS100]

It's an interesting question I have. In all my planned stories there will be arguments and fights between the members of the couple. Whether it be the mother and son or the sister and brother.

However I'm interested in knowing how I could potentially show a fight or spat between a younger sister and an older brother. Like if you look through my post you can find what I'm talking about.

But nevertheless I do want to show that there's some issues with the relationship which are directly or indirectly tied to the nature of it. Nevertheless I do want them to make up again and have sex cause this is an erotic story.

All couples have fights. But the couples that make things work are those that manage to work past those issues.

 

[SimonDoom]

Ask yourself: what would an older brother and younger sister be likely to fight about? The possibilities are endless.

They might fight over time in the bathroom.

They might fight over the TV shows they want to watch.

They might fight over how the sister dresses. Brother might like girls who dress in a sexy way but might feel hypocritically negative about his sister dressing that way and give her a hard time.

Maybe sister has a crush on brother's best friend, and it freaks him out.

Maybe sister has a crush on brother, and he can't handle that.

They might have very different personality types, and fight as a result.

Think about them as individual characters, first, and then imagine what those two characters might fight about.

 

[NotWise]

It's an interesting question I have. In all my planned stories there will be arguments and fights between the members of the couple. Whether it be the mother and son or the sister and brother.

However I'm interested in knowing how I could potentially show a fight or spat between a younger sister and an older brother. Like if you look through my post you can find what I'm talking about.

But nevertheless I do want to show that there's some issues with the relationship which are directly or indirectly tied to the nature of it. Nevertheless I do want them to make up again and have sex cause this is an erotic story.

All couples have fights. But the couples that make things work are those that manage to work past those issues.

I'm not sure what problem you have with showing a fight in a sibling pair. Young siblings within 2-3 year apart fight all the time, older ones not so much. Things are a little different if there's a sexual relationship at stake. The argument might be intensely private, and while its outcome may change their relationship it won't -- unlike some pairs -- dissolve the basic relationship; they'll still be siblings.

I tend to write sibling arguments as very private and very emotional, and draw things into the arguments that can't be said in the presence of others. I ended my Halloween story from last year ("Candy Shops") with a spat between siblings because I felt like the conversation could be more personal and more intense than yet another sex scene.

 

[SS100]

I want the fight to happen after the relationship starts with the sister and brother clashing over several things:

1. How she acts and dresses which she calls hypocritical since she says she loves it when she dresses like that for him
2. The anger and frustration of hiding their relationship because of the cultural expectations
3. The age gap (26 for him, 18 for her) and how it plays into factors
4. The dissatisfaction with her feeling that she's giving up a lot of her best years with her brother. She's on the way to becoming a doctors at a medical school whilst he's just a software engineer. Still making some good money but not as talented as her
5. The looks. Like the brother works out but she's a stunner.
6. Just the general personality clashes altogether because the sister is outgoing
7. The amount of people she's slept with compared to him i.e. 18 to 3
8. What they're expecting from such a relationship i.e. the sister sees it as a fling and notch on her belt whilst the brother wants something long term.
9. The power imbalance since the brother owns the house they live in and the sister lives in it rent free due to it being close to her university
10. Just plain jealousy

I can probably do all ten of these with a couple every chapter. What are you thoughts on these?

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't know if anyone can give you an answer. All of these ideas could work in a story. I'd suggest just writing the story and seeing how it goes. I would suggest, however, trying to focus on one or two of your 10 ideas and not trying to do too much. Any one or two of them could work. You don't know how it's going to go until you try.

 

[SS100]

I don't know if anyone can give you an answer. All of these ideas could work in a story. I'd suggest just writing the story and seeing how it goes. I would suggest, however, trying to focus on one or two of your 10 ideas and not trying to do too much. Any one or two of them could work. You don't know how it's going to go until you try.

For the second chapter (after they get together) which two would you think would be most interesting?

 

[SimonDoom]

For the second chapter (after they get together) which two would you think would be most interesting?

I can't answer that. There's no answer. It all depends on how you write the story, and what you want the story to be. I can't tell you what it should be.

Just write something and see how it goes. And then write another story. And another. That's the best way to learn.

 

[JoRay]

Siblings squabble. Watch a nature film about baby foxes or another social / pack predator. It's practice. As stated with siblings you are always brothers and sisters-- no matter what.

There is an intense intimacy (even without sex) in knowing everything-- or mostly everything-- about another person and being able to use that power (knowledge is power) for great good (to do things for each other nobody would dream of considering) or for great evil (you know exactly which button to push, exactly how hard to push, and exactly where the button is located).

Hopefully siblings are also the best of friends. (As in "I'm the only one who can say that about my brother / sister.") They should always come to the other's side, regardless of whether they are right or wrong. They should always be supportive, no matter how stupid the thing the other is doing. And because their bond is unbreakable, later-- after the crisis has passed-- they can tell one another what a doofus they really were.

Where a normative couple shows their relationship to the world, they often hide themselves from their partner. Look at this board, authors here say "'nobody' knows this, not even my spouse." But siblings in a relationship know pretty much everything while hiding the relationship from almost all of society.

Ray's family moved in next door to mine when we were both four. We understand one another pretty much completely. That can be overwhelming-- there is no escape, no BS, we can't wear the masks inside our house the way we can outside. That's both good and bad.

We have the ability to talk in shorthand and communicate with an unspoken language. (NOTE: neither "asset" is good to replicate "verbatim" in written erotica.)

 

[SS100]

If you could pick three drugs that the sister could give her brother to dominate and fuck him what would it be? Are we allowed to talk about drugs here? I want to show that the sister is sneaky, ambitious, manipulative and affectionate. But I want to show that the brother is loyal, envious, calm and addled. Thoughts?

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm not sure the word affectionate comes to mind if we're talking drugging someone.

Word of warning, if you're going down that path, you're going to have a problem. In general, the incest crowd does not like any type of non consensual material. They also don't care much for one of the characters being abusive towards another in any way. You will get flamed for this.

Also, there's always a chance the site itself could pick up on it and decide that story/chapter goes into mind control...and they are not a fan of incest.

Write whatever you want, but you're going to catch some shit.

My suggestion would be to soften it up. Rather than outright drug the brother into date rape status, you could simply have them drinking and smoking pot together, she's holding back, but pushing more at him to simply lower his inhibitions to get him to do what she wants. Still sleazy, but it comes across as being less non consensual, everyone gets drunk and does things they might not normally

Just a suggestion.

 

[Voboy]

I'd do it through taunts they give each other while fucking.

But then, I might be misunderstanding your intent, OP, and since I'm not well-acquainted with the incest dynamic here, I might be barking up the wrong tree.

 

[SS100]

I'm not sure the word affectionate comes to mind if we're talking drugging someone.

Word of warning, if you're going down that path, you're going to have a problem. In general, the incest crowd does not like any type of non consensual material. They also don't care much for one of the characters being abusive towards another in any way. You will get flamed for this.

Also, there's always a chance the site itself could pick up on it and decide that story/chapter goes into mind control...and they are not a fan of incest.

Write whatever you want, but you're going to catch some shit.

My suggestion would be to soften it up. Rather than outright drug the brother into date rape status, you could simply have them drinking and smoking pot together, she's holding back, but pushing more at him to simply lower his inhibitions to get him to do what she wants. Still sleazy, but it comes across as being less non consensual, everyone gets drunk and does things they might not normally

Just a suggestion.

Not date rape. Just drugs they're taking at the same time.

 

[tenyari]

No one knows your weaknesses like a sibling. They can cut to the bone with less than a sentence.

Fights that are not physical should either be guarded - the person doesn't want to harm and is just angry.
Or extremely brutal - emotional safeguards are off and the worst possible things are said.

With siblings it doesn't even have to just be what's said, it can be timing and tone as well. A sibling can sense when you're hurt, and go for the killing blow at the exact right moment to drive you to tears.

Even if the bond is strong and mostly loving, siblings can get angry enough to go into the brutal camp, and then find themselves working to un-harm the person they just so brutally tore apart.

So these are the 'fights' that you tell by getting extremely brutal with the emotional tear down. But also with people who are willing to do the work to repair the damage, no matter how bad it was, rather than walk away.

 

[8letters]

It's an interesting question I have. In all my planned stories there will be arguments and fights between the members of the couple. Whether it be the mother and son or the sister and brother.

However I'm interested in knowing how I could potentially show a fight or spat between a younger sister and an older brother. Like if you look through my post you can find what I'm talking about.

But nevertheless I do want to show that there's some issues with the relationship which are directly or indirectly tied to the nature of it. Nevertheless I do want them to make up again and have sex cause this is an erotic story.

All couples have fights. But the couples that make things work are those that manage to work past those issues.

Read my My Sister Set Me Up on a Blind Date. In the middle of the story, the older brother and the younger sister have a big fight. It starts with a small comment she makes, but then snowballs as he pulls out all the things she did over the years. Eventually, they make up and have sex. My story My Lingerie-Loving Sister Moves In features a brother and a sister who were estranged for years. They eventually talk over what happened that caused the estrangement, make up and have sex. I've gotten lots of comments from readers wishing that they could make up with their sibling like the characters did in my story and put the bitterness into the past.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

Built-in sibling rivalries are part of the fun of writing incest stories. No one can piss you off as fast or effectively as a sibling. That's a long list, but can be a good one, depending on how you use it. What I didn't see would be the fuel of all the smaller squabbles that build up along the way - like how Dad bought the piano "for her" but never bought shit for him or whatever.

 

[lovecraft68]

Built-in sibling rivalries are part of the fun of writing incest stories. No one can piss you off as fast or effectively as a sibling. That's a long list, but can be a good one, depending on how you use it. What I didn't see would be the fuel of all the smaller squabbles that build up along the way - like how Dad bought the piano "for her" but never bought shit for him or whatever.

I like the rivalry of the sister being a brat and getting away with it because she's daddy's little girl which instill jealousy in the brother. Or one sibling is always getting into trouble while the other is the "good one"

 

[Seadog777]

I can't help you with the "lovers" part, but, I can sure as hell help you with the fights.

My 2 other brother and I would break noses, split lips, dot eyes, dislocate knuckles, etc, etc.

I taught my 3 younger sisters how to fight and they followed soon followed suit. LOL.

 

[SS100]

Read my My Sister Set Me Up on a Blind Date. In the middle of the story, the older brother and the younger sister have a big fight. It starts with a small comment she makes, but then snowballs as he pulls out all the things she did over the years. Eventually, they make up and have sex. My story My Lingerie-Loving Sister Moves In features a brother and a sister who were estranged for years. They eventually talk over what happened that caused the estrangement, make up and have sex. I've gotten lots of comments from readers wishing that they could make up with their sibling like the characters did in my story and put the bitterness into the past.

I read those stories and they seem more like arguments. Not actually fights.

 

[SS100]

How would you show the sister, especially if she's younger, being manipulative and narcissistic?

 

[ElectricBlue]

How would you show the sister, especially if she's younger, being manipulative and narcissistic?

By writing her that way.

This is an odd thread. What have you been doing this last year, that you're still asking for writing by committee input?

 

[Euphony]

I read those stories and they seem more like arguments. Not actually fights.

You're gonna need to define your difference between "fight" and "argument" if you want us to follow along in your thinking.

 

[Euphony]

How would you show the sister, especially if she's younger, being manipulative and narcissistic?

Where is there relationship currently and what does she have in her toolkit?

It can be indifference, freezing out, or big guns of stirring up shit with mom and dad.

 

[XerXesXu]

However I'm interested in knowing how I could potentially show a fight or spat between a younger sister and an older brother.

Using her as a crash test dummy.

Slapping her on the thigh to see who can make the best handprint.

Taking her for a walk then hiding in the bushes, leaving her alone and lost.

Sitting her on the luggage rack to make more room when on the train.

Putting cat shit in her shoe.

When she comes into the pub with her friends, telling the barman she’s underage and mustn’t be served alcohol.

Asking her why she only has ugly girlfriends.

Asking her boyfriend if he’s met XYZ’s sister – ‘She’s REALLY hot.”

I sometimes get the impression that brother/sister incest fans never had a sister.

 

[Rob_Royale]

Honestly it's like the OP is asking how to write.

Dialog
Description of tone, body language, facial expression, shouting screaming yelling?

Just write it man!

 

[ElectricBlue]

I sometimes get the impression that brother/sister incest fans never had a sister.

Very true. The lack of understanding of sibling dynamics in some stories renders them completely unbelievable (well, as unbelievable as the basic premise in the first place).