How weird do people like their sexy aliens?

[Mike130]

You're going to be my test case Mike, I don't know if you'll like this alien or not, but it there's even a little spark in the short story for you, I'll be very very happy

Love to be a test case for you Penny! Have to say, all your stories so far have been extremely erotic. Making a non-biped alien erotic will be extremely challenging though, but if anyone can do it, it’s you Penny!

 

[TheWritingGroup]

You could extrapolate from some Earth organisms.

• Land snails fight knife duels. The winner takes the male role, the loser the female.
• In clownfishes, the most dominant fish in a community is always female, the second-most is always male, and the others are immature males. If the female is removed, the male turns female and the most dominant immature male matures.
• Most flowering plants need help from a totally different organism (like a bee) to have sex. The bee gets a biological reward (food). Some male bees are tricked into helping orchids have sex by the orchid impersonating a female one. The male bee tries to copulate with the flowers. This could become an alien species that fakes being human to get its gametes onto/into the person, only to have them passed to another alien in a later encounter. The human (or orchid bee) is being parasitized, because he's wasting effort and time on encounters that can never lead to reproduction.
• Another bee thing: male honeybees literally get torn apart in the act of mating.

-Annie (science geeking out)

 

[PennyThompson]

You could extrapolate from some Earth organisms.

• Land snails fight knife duels. The winner takes the male role, the loser the female.
• In clownfishes, the most dominant fish in a community is always female, the second-most is always male, and the others are immature males. If the female is removed, the male turns female and the most dominant immature male matures.
• Most flowering plants need help from a totally different organism (like a bee) to have sex. The bee gets a biological reward (food). Some male bees are tricked into helping orchids have sex by the orchid impersonating a female one. The male bee tries to copulate with the flowers. This could become an alien species that fakes being human to get its gametes onto/into the person, only to have them passed to another alien in a later encounter. The human (or orchid bee) is being parasitized, because he's wasting effort and time on encounters that can never lead to reproduction.
• Another bee thing: male honeybees literally get torn apart in the act of mating.

-Annie (science geeking out)

I'm taking notes, these are brilliant ideas

Now that you mention it, there's all kinds of bonkers sex happening on this planet!
Like seahorses, where the female squirts her fertilized eggs into the male, and the dad carries the babies.
Or anglerfish where the male fuses to the much larger female, and basically becomes a parasitic sperm-donor

 

[TheWritingGroup]

I'm taking notes, these are brilliant ideas

Now that you mention it, there's all kinds of bonkers sex happening on this planet!
Like seahorses, where the female squirts her fertilized eggs into the male, and the dad carries the babies.
Or anglerfish where the male fuses to the much larger female, and basically becomes a parasitic sperm-donor

Think twice before you web search "traumatic insemination". It's exactly what it sounds like.

-Annie

 

[SmokingFap]

I'm taking notes, these are brilliant ideas

Now that you mention it, there's all kinds of bonkers sex happening on this planet!
Like seahorses, where the female squirts her fertilized eggs into the male, and the dad carries the babies.
Or anglerfish where the male fuses to the much larger female, and basically becomes a parasitic sperm-donor

Getting some new ideas for Blue, are you? Or maybe thinking about introducing Fuchsia or Teal?

 

[PennyThompson]

Getting some new ideas for Blue, are you? Or maybe thinking about introducing Fuchsia or Teal?

Let's see how this first one does, but... I think we might need to fuck our way across the galaxy, there's a lot of fascinating lifeforms out there

 

[MK_Whimsy]

I'm partial to lizard aliens. I wrote a lizard alien foot fetish story called Scale Servicing. This might fit somewhat into your "Basically furries, but in space" category.

As this relates to your question though, as an alternative, there may be ways you can use more "conventional" alien types to go off the beaten path too. So rather than focusing on the strangeness of the alien itself, maybe think more broadly about the scenario or fantasy and how the alien could be uniquely suited for exploring it? You could drill down into an odd scene in exquisite detail without the alien itself having to be too outlandish. This might still help satisfy the exoticness factor you are going for. Not sure how much that helps, but might be worth consideration.

 

[grey228]

I'm partial to lizard aliens.

FYI, a SFW story by Robert Aspirin, The Bug Wars, offers an interesting point of view.

 

[FidelityBoss]

Ok, so... Earlier this week some dumb spambot made a "Meet Local Ladies Tonight in Your Area" post in one of the other Lit forums. I joked about writing a story where someone actually responds to one of these spam messages, and it turns out to be from a horny alien who really speaks like that, weird grammar and vocabulary and Capitalizes Every Word For Some Reason.

And I thought that was pretty funny, so I spit out a few paragraphs:



And I still thought that was pretty funny, and a few other people gave some positive reactions to it, and now I kinda want to actually write it. I would probably start with a 750-Word Challenge story, just to get it out of my head. If I enjoyed it, I might write more. But here's my question for Story Ideas...

I love space opera sci-fi. Star Wars, Star Trek, Mass Effect, Larry Niven's Ringworld books, Becky Chambers' Wayfarers books... I love reading about aliens that are extremely different from humans, different body shapes, different environments, different evolutionary paths...

So if I wrote this story, I don't want to just have a sexy human-looking lady with green skin. I think I want to get weird with it. But how weird can an alien be, and still be potentially sexy?

Some brief research into the Scifi and Non-Human genres turn up a lot of "Basically Human with minor differences," lots of "Basically furries, but in space," lots of "Tentacle Monsters Who Do What Tentacle Monsters Do," and... not a whole lot else! And that's cool and all, but I don't really want to write about any of those tropes.

I want to imagine something that evolved into sentient life that is not even remotely human, but that could still have its own standards of beauty and sexiness, ones that could still be recognizable and empathizable to humans, while still being distinctly alien. But I'm worried if I get too weird with it, nobody will want to read it

What do y'all think?

This is such a fun concept! The idea of flipping the 'spam bot' trope into a full-blown alien encounter is actually nice. As for making the alien sexy yet truly alien, I'd say lean into the uniqueness, explore textures, movements, or sounds that are mesmerizing instead of sticking to human conventions. Think bioluminescence, hypnotic patterns, or fluid, graceful motion. If the character exudes charm and personality, readers will connect regardless of the physical form.

 

[Husky_Embrace]

I'm late to this party, and it looks like it can be too late to adapt the alien, but my idea's regardless.

I love if something has at least a basis in reality. The aliens can be a great way of 'environmental' story telling. Though aliens are of course alien to us, there are a lot of things we can expect that they have. The senses are likely to develop, as well as eating and excreting. We can play with that.

We can place the eyes on the side, like a doe. That way you suggest it is/was predated upon by other species. Eyes front is a signal that it's a predator, hunting by looking far away and making strategies to take something down.

We can make it much more creepy though, signalling something that not everyone picks up on. Think the vulture. It has a differen type of fur or feather from a certain point up to it's head. This is because they are carrion predators that get very deep into the carcasses. To prevent their fur or feathers from rotting they have a different type from the neck up. This way you can do really weird looking creatures, partially furred or feathered.

We must not forget that they might live in micro gravity or no gravity at all. This can lead to weird sex scenes floating about, trying to hold on to each other as the thrusts inevitably push you apart. Maybe they are build specifically to prevent you from flying away. The vagina able to suck the guy back via even the tip of his cock. No gravity also changes how the creature can be build, where it is better suited to float or swim inside a soace ship, with thin flaps like squid or jelly fish to propell themselves.

Eventually I would look closely at furries and take some lessens from it. You can build a creature alien from what you think it would normally do.

It grew up as a prey creature on a forest moon, but has now lived so long on a space ship without gravity it has morphed to a squid like creature. It has huge flaps that can be mesmerising to watch as it has many strange patterns, thin enough to see some light on the other side. It's head is the only thing still having fur, a vestigial part of their body. Like a does head, though the mouth is as a butterfly to drink the fully prepared food out of a siphon, not needing to make food that needs chewing first. The rest is naked, as a shaved... beard. On an 'air conditioned' space ship you don't need much else. The thin rods inside the flaps end in tiny claws, eerily like three too thin and flexible fingers to manipulate their environment.

They can cradle the human with too many hands, creating a blanket in zero G with their flaps to keep them warm and close. That helps the genteel sucking if the guy fucks too hard and pushes them away from each other.

Give it just enough human/Earth qualities that we can understand and identify, but in a wholly alien way. We can latch on to the ideas, and very much not.

And in the end it might just be a mating ritual, requiring the semen as mosquitoes need blood. Then the male alien comes around, looking very different from the original as they sometimes are in nature, who has no more use of a human.

 

[PennyThompson]

I'm late to this party, and it looks like it can be too late to adapt the alien, but my idea's regardless.

My first alien shirt is already in the publishing queue and should be available on Feb. 1st, but I'm getting increasingly inspired to explore more alien loving with more life forms

I like where your head is at, though! Different environments would lead to different evolutionary paths to sentience. And there's a lot of inspiration to be found in nature, applied to thinking and emotionally rich alien characters, hopefully in ways that can be alluring and sexy while still being novel and interesting

 

[Husky_Embrace]

My first alien shirt is already in the publishing queue and should be available on Feb. 1st, but I'm getting increasingly inspired to explore more alien loving with more life forms

I like where your head is at, though! Different environments would lead to different evolutionary paths to sentience. And there's a lot of inspiration to be found in nature, applied to thinking and emotionally rich alien characters, hopefully in ways that can be alluring and sexy while still being novel and interesting

First shirt or story? I'm interested in both!

 

[PennyThompson]

First shirt or story? I'm interested in both!

Whoops, darn phone autocorrect...
Stay out of my shirt, get into my stories

 

[TruthSeeker12345]

Autocorrect drives me crazy, also. In addition, most touch screens do not even know that I am there; and I have trouble with all smart phone "virtual" keyboards. Give me a QWERTY physical keyboard any day.

 

[Husky_Embrace]

Whoops, darn phone autocorrect...
Stay out of my shirt, get into my stories

I thought you were going to have the alien made on a T-shirt. Merchandising next to your story. Next step is the inflatable alien that growls sexily when you go deep enough, with vibrate function for the females to sate all worlds. A group toy for every sex fetish!*

*Not all fetished might be applicable. Use the peanut butter responsibly.

 

[PennyThompson]

Heya, for what it's worth, my 750-word story just published, Sexy Women In Your Area

I'd love to hear how it lands for people, or if there's interest in more!

 

[Mike130]

If anyone could make a non- biped alien sexy, it you Penny! Great read!

 

[SteelPoint]

How about a story where the sexy aliens are indistinguishable from people in every way?

That way, I could actually be engaged by and interested in the plot... making, of course, the gigantic assumption that there actually IS one...

 

[PennyThompson]

How about a story where the sexy aliens are indistinguishable from people in every way?

That way, I could actually be engaged by and interested in the plot... making, of course, the gigantic assumption that there actually IS one...

Hmm, maybe if I just added "But they were secretly aliens the whole time!" to the end of all my other stories, they would get a boost in your eyes

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Hmm, maybe if I just added "But they were secretly aliens the whole time!" to the end of all my other stories, they would get a boost in your eyes

No, no, the request was that they be indistinguishable "in every way." That would mean that even you, the author, couldn't tell that they were aliens.

In fact, all your stories already do this.

-Annie

 

[SteelPoint]

No, no, the request was that they be indistinguishable "in every way." That would mean that even you, the author, couldn't tell that they were aliens.

In fact, all your stories already do this.

-Annie

Correct - and a hearty three cheers for that.

I like being able to identify with people and have believable, real-world-type events happening. If a story can't engage me in that way, it doesn't carry me with it, end of.

I do realise of course that it's a greater challenge for a writer to produce a telling tale in that way - say, to explain how a woman falls under a man's hypnotic charm - than the lazy writer's reaching for his/her Hypnomatic Ray Gun in his/her Tales from the Planet Zog... but there you go. Such is life. C'est la vie. So is das Leben.

To me, it's all about verisimilitude: difficult maybe to produce... but a simple concept in itself...

... but perhaps I'm weird.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Correct - and a hearty three cheers for that.

I like being able to identify with people and have believable, real-world-type events happening. If a story can't engage me in that way, it doesn't carry me with it, end of.

I do realise of course that it's a greater challenge for a writer to produce a telling tale in that way - say, to explain how a woman falls under a man's hypnotic charm - than the lazy writer's reaching for his/her Hypnomatic Ray Gun in his/her Tales from the Planet Zog... but there you go. Such is life. C'est la vie. So is das Leben.

To me, it's all about verisimilitude: difficult maybe to produce... but a simple concept in itself...

... but perhaps I'm weird.

Not weird, but unusual in a reader of erotica. Lots of porn/erotica is very formulaic. (Not all, obviously.)

-Annie

 

[SteelPoint]

Indeed... and it's precisely that "lots of" proportion which is generally fit for eyeball rolling and to be avoided.

Those writers who have the inventive imagination to come up with new side streets to Formula Avenue are the ones who deserve the plaudits, not the ones who travel lazily down the centre lane.

 

[TruthSeeker12345]

I like erotica with a plot. I think that it engages the reader and avoids the formula. Even in Penny's very short (and purposely length limited) story, it has a good plot.

 

[Husky_Embrace]

Correct - and a hearty three cheers for that.

I like being able to identify with people and have believable, real-world-type events happening. If a story can't engage me in that way, it doesn't carry me with it, end of.

I do realise of course that it's a greater challenge for a writer to produce a telling tale in that way - say, to explain how a woman falls under a man's hypnotic charm - than the lazy writer's reaching for his/her Hypnomatic Ray Gun in his/her Tales from the Planet Zog... but there you go. Such is life. C'est la vie. So is das Leben.

To me, it's all about verisimilitude: difficult maybe to produce... but a simple concept in itself...

... but perhaps I'm weird.

I've made a story about hypnosis, now that you remind me. As others mentioned many stories here are formulaic. I take the challenge route, because I would like things to be plausible. That means trying very hard to come up with a valid reason.

In this case part curiosity from their studies in Psychology, as well as if it works they can relax from the hypnosis in the stressful period with exams. Of course it doesn't work, but they get in a routine as they do meditate, reducing stress.

Then one time it does work. Of course he won't abuse that sudden power. He also knows people don't so things during hypnosis that they don't want to. But could you maybe use some psychology to push them further? Where would it end? Soon it dissolves into more than he bargained for, to his guilty conscience.

It was never deemed enough for here, but maybe I should ask an editor for help.