How to stop the war

REDWAVE

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My anger and outrage at the predatory war of aggression being waged by the U.S. against Iraq grows every day this horror and obscenity continues. This war is both immoral and illegal. Not only does it violate international law (the UN Charter's prohibition of wars of aggression), it violates the U.S. Constitution (no formal declaration of war by Congress).

The bright spot has been the heroic resistance of the Iraqi people, who have been truly magnificent in striking a blow for all the oppressed against imperialist invasion. Their courage, resourcefulness, and ingenuity in fighting the foreign invaders are an inspiration to oppressed people everywhere. No matter what the outcome, they have already scored a moral victory by holding up the U.S. blitzkrieg for several days now, with much lighter and less well-equipped forces. Defeat U.S. imperialism! Victory to the Iraqis! Their fight is the fight of ALL oppressed people worldwide!

But the Iraqis can hardly be expected to defeat the U.S. behemoth all by themselves. Those who oppose this war (and anyone who doesn't is either a monster or a moron, or both) can help to ensure right prevails over might, wherever you are located. Here in the U.S., if everyone who opposes the war (or anywhere near all of them) goes on strike and engages in civil disobedience (blocking traffic, etc.), that will be enough to paralyze the capitalist system here, and thus halt the U.S. war machine. Workers elsewhere can resist by refusing to handle war materiel. If the U.S. military can't resupply its troops, it will have to call off the war. Remember, the U.S. supply lines, stretching all the way from North America to the Middle East, are extremely long and vulnerable to disruption.

Economic warfare also plays a role. Boycott all U.S.-based companies overseas! Convert your dollars into euros! Don't invest in the U.S. economy-- pull out any money you have invested in it. A collapse of the dollar will be a major blow to U.S. imperialism, especially now that the U.S. is running such a huge trade deficit.

Finally, even those within the bowels of the imperialist military can resist. Refuse to fight this unjust war of aggression, in which you are being ordered to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity! Soldiers-- turn the guns around!

Together, we can STOP THIS WAR!
 
Are you under the assumption that anyone here would possibly listen to you...?
 
REDWAVE said:
My anger and outrage at the predatory war of aggression being waged by the U.S. against Iraq grows every day this horror and obscenity continues. This war is both immoral and illegal. Not only does it violate international law (the UN Charter's prohibition of wars of aggression), it violates the U.S. Constitution (no formal declaration of war by Congress).

The bright spot has been the heroic resistance of the Iraqi people, who have been truly magnificent in striking a blow for all the oppressed against imperialist invasion. Their courage, resourcefulness, and ingenuity in fighting the foreign invaders are an inspiration to oppressed people everywhere. No matter what the outcome, they have already scored a moral victory by holding up the U.S. blitzkrieg for several days now, with much lighter and less well-equipped forces. Defeat U.S. imperialism! Victory to the Iraqis! Their fight is the fight of ALL oppressed people worldwide!

But the Iraqis can hardly be expected to defeat the U.S. behemoth all by themselves. Those who oppose this war (and anyone who doesn't is either a monster or a moron, or both) can help to ensure right prevails over might, wherever you are located. Here in the U.S., if everyone who opposes the war (or anywhere near all of them) goes on strike and engages in civil disobedience (blocking traffic, etc.), that will be enough to paralyze the capitalist system here, and thus halt the U.S. war machine. Workers elsewhere can resist by refusing to handle war materiel. If the U.S. military can't resupply its troops, it will have to call off the war. Remember, the U.S. supply lines, stretching all the way from North America to the Middle East, are extremely long and vulnerable to disruption.

Economic warfare also plays a role. Boycott all U.S.-based companies overseas! Convert your dollars into euros! Don't invest in the U.S. economy-- pull out any money you have invested in it. A collapse of the dollar will be a major blow to U.S. imperialism, especially now that the U.S. is running such a huge trade deficit.

Finally, even those within the bowels of the imperialist military can resist. Refuse to fight this unjust war of aggression, in which you are being ordered to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity! Soldiers-- turn the guns around!

Together, we can STOP THIS WAR!
 
REDWAVE said:


The bright spot has been the heroic resistance of the Iraqi people, who have been truly magnificent in striking a blow for all the oppressed against imperialist invasion. Their courage, resourcefulness, and ingenuity in fighting the foreign invaders are an inspiration to oppressed people everywhere. No matter what the outcome, they have already scored a moral victory by holding up the U.S. blitzkrieg for several days now, with much lighter and less well-equipped forces. Defeat U.S. imperialism! Victory to the Iraqis! Their fight is the fight of ALL oppressed people worldwide!

It's too bad that the Fedayeen are forcing Iraqi's (who would rather surrender and live) by gunpoint to attack us. Too bad they get slaughtered like pigs just to keep Saddam in power. Too bad you refuse to realize what's really going on here.

But the Iraqis can hardly be expected to defeat the U.S. behemoth all by themselves. Those who oppose this war (and anyone who doesn't is either a monster or a moron, or both) can help to ensure right prevails over might, wherever you are located. Here in the U.S., if everyone who opposes the war (or anywhere near all of them) goes on strike and engages in civil disobedience (blocking traffic, etc.), that will be enough to paralyze the capitalist system here, and thus halt the U.S. war machine. Workers elsewhere can resist by refusing to handle war materiel. If the U.S. military can't resupply its troops, it will have to call off the war. Remember, the U.S. supply lines, stretching all the way from North America to the Middle East, are extremely long and vulnerable to disruption.

Economic warfare also plays a role. Boycott all U.S.-based companies overseas! Convert your dollars into euros! Don't invest in the U.S. economy-- pull out any money you have invested in it. A collapse of the dollar will be a major blow to U.S. imperialism, especially now that the U.S. is running such a huge trade deficit.

Finally, even those within the bowels of the imperialist military can resist. Refuse to fight this unjust war of aggression, in which you are being ordered to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity! Soldiers-- turn the guns around!

Together, we can STOP THIS WAR!

I think you should go on a hunger strike until this "General Strike" materializes.
 
SIN

Having trouble figuring out how to make that keyboard thingy work?
 
REDWAVE said:
Defeat U.S. imperialism! Victory to the Iraqis! Their fight is the fight of ALL oppressed people worldwide!

Interesting what you are argueing for. Let's hear from an Iraqi or two regarding this ...

Hashem al-Iqabi, one of Iraq's leading writers and intellectuals, had hoped the marchers would mention the fact that Saddam had driven almost four million Iraqis out of their homes and razed more than 6,000 villages to the ground.

"The death and destruction caused by Saddam in our land is the worst since Nebuchadnezzar," he said. "These prosperous, peaceful, and fat Europeans are marching in support of evil incarnate." He said that, watching the march, he felt Nazism was "alive and well and flexing its muscles in Hyde Park."
Abdel-Majid Khoi, son of the late Grand Ayatollah Khoi, Iraq's foremost religious leader for almost 40 years, spoke of the "deep moral pain" he feels when hearing the so-called " antiwar" discourse.

"The Iraqi nation is like a man who is kept captive and tortured by a gang of thugs," Khoi said. "The proper moral position is to fly to help that man liberate himself and bring the torturers to book. But what we witness in the West is the opposite: support for the torturers and total contempt for the victim."

Khoi said he would say ahlan wasahlan (welcome) to anyone who would liberate Iraq.

"When you are being tortured to death you are not fussy about who will save you," he said.
 
Tacit admission

Alvin Brickrock said:
Dreadwave, I didn't get past the first paragraph without finding an untruth.

This war is legal.

So you admit it's immoral . . .
 
Using logic with Redwave is a waste of time. You have to either put him on ignore or sit back and laugh at him make a mockery of himself. Keep in mind anytime you want to debate with him, this is a guy that celebrated September 11th and is now joyful at the death of American soldiers.
 
SIN

Well, I guess if you're just out to rack up posts, what you're doing is easier than C&Ping Shakespeare.
 
Pookie_grrl

Quoting without giving the source carries no credibility whatsoever.
 
Re: Pookie_grrl

REDWAVE said:
Quoting without giving the source carries no credibility whatsoever.

Quoting with sources carries no credibility whatsoever, when it comes to you. But if you insist ...
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Oh .... another quote from the same ...

Khalid Kishtaini, Iraq's most famous satirical writer, added his complaint.

"Don't these marchers know that the only march possible in Iraq under Saddam Hussein is from the prison to the firing-squad?" he asked. "The Western marchers behave as if the US wanted to invade Switzerland, not Iraq under Saddam Hussein."
 
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