How to make amends?

[heavyhitter01]

Even assuming you are doing this with your heart in the right place, that you are trying to prevent the kind of misery you have seen, which is admirable in some ways, your methods are questionable because it focuses on one woman as the jezebel, the cause of misery, when the men stupid enough to get caught in her web are equally or maybe worse; I can argue TL is a warped person who may not even be capable of feeling any remorse , maybe she is a sociopath I don't know, but how about those potential cheaters? Does TL force them into bed, does she blackmail them, drug them and then take incriminating videos, or does she simply find men all too willing to play? She may be a train wreck, I don't doubt it (and the fact that she has disappeared from this thread says a lot, that she doesn't even try to defend herself), but is it your job to protect the virtue of married men out there? You may knock out TL, maybe even do something good for her in the end, but how about the other women they will cheat with? How come you aren't on a personal crusade to be on the look out for cheating men and take vengeance on them,too? When it moved from being about protecting your friend (misguided as I thought it was), to being about protecting society from TL or rather scummy men stupid enough to cheat, it moved from a friend acting out of love to a self avenging angel gonna clean up the harlot from sinning against others, and that is not noble. If you said you thought she was going to try and hurt your friends and you acted out of worry for them, I would still think your methods were wrong but your heart in the right place; what I see hear is vengeance and vigliantiism. The old expression, that the ends don't justify the means, comes to mind.

My intentions were, and still are, about protecting my friends. If outing ms_intrigue means that some men who were lied to by her (whether married or not) now have the truth, then so be it. I knew that if I stopped her from coming after my friend in the way I planned on doing it, that it would also stop her from coming after others. That's a win-win.

How did I know this was the only way she would stop? Because I saw how methodical she was. The analogy I made about a person with a loaded gun in a room full of people still rings true. She was deliberately destroying relationships, one at a time. I was going to keep my friends out of the line of fire, but if I could keep others out of the line of fire too? Excellent.

As far as talking about sex with a spouse, in any kind of detail, no. Of men from all classes literally none talk about their sex lives with their wives, except maybe to complain how little sex they get when they have young kids. When men talk about sex, it usually is past conquests, that girl with the special whatever, etc, but their current spouse? Sure, guys love to play can you top this complaining about this and that and the other thing, which includes actually having sex, but that is banter, and never in detail like that, it is more like Rodney Dangerfield kind of humor.

That is a HUGE, broad, sweeping generalization that certainly doesn't apply to all men. My high school and college buddies still talk about sex all the time, even though virtually all of them are now married, most with children.

Strange how so many people here (on a SEX BOARD!) seem to believe that men don't talk about the sex they are having. How odd. But regardless, that must be your experience, and my experience is vastly different. To each his own.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Hmmm, I can barely keep up with this! Was ms_intrigue in love with your friend? I wondered why she kept on trying to contact the guy. Seems like she would just move on after the wife found out to avoid the drama! If I was your friends wife I would have well taken care of miss TL and acting my own payback towards her. As far as the couple sticking it out whose to say he will cheat again? If they get to the root of why he did in the first place, he may not want to ever do that again. I don't see why he gets a generic label based on one mistake.
HH, quiet revenge is best...intentionally going after someone & telling it on a public forum is going to get you raked over the coals by some percentage of the audience. No matter what you put on Lit, you are going to get different responses for that matter...some may high five your thoughts, others not so much....tis the nature of the beast.

Quite revenge is definitely best! But in this case, outing her was the best revenge I had, so it had to be public. Trust me, I would rather not have wound up here on this thread, but it was a means to an end.

Thank you very much for the statement I put in bold above. The counseling they went through revealed significant issues about why my friend felt it was okay to do what he did. That's what good counseling should do, right? Of course I was not privy to their counseling sessions, but I recall very clearly his wife telling me that some of their sessions were "astounding revelations" for both of them. And I saw how much closer they became as the counseling went on -- and frankly, I saw how much he grew up and changed over those several months.

It doesn't mean he won't cheat again. I acknowledge that, and I'm sure his wife probably would, too. But it DOES mean that the underlying reasons why he chose to do what he did have been dealt with, and that makes them much more likely to talk things through and understand what is going on when a problem does arise, rather than my friend suddenly deciding he's going to fuck up his marriage by fucking around.

 

[culloden]

Strange how so many people here (on a SEX BOARD!) seem to believe that men don't talk about the sex they are having. How odd.

I don't find this strange at all. Not that I actually talk about sex much here, but there is a big difference between discussing sex in the relative anonymity of Internet and discussing my married sex life with guys who know or might know my wife. That would feel like a betrayal.

 

[Lord Pmann]

My intentions were, and still are, about protecting my friends.

This is really inconsistent with what you have been saying. First it was about justice. Then protecting a friend. Then teaching her consequences.

If your friend did all the stuff you said, then how on earth could she contact him, other than maybe driving her happy ass to his house, if she knew his address. I'd like to think your friend isn't dumb enough to give out his last name, but I don't have a lot of faith in your friend's intelligence.

 

[heavyhitter01]

This is really inconsistent with what you have been saying. First it was about justice. Then protecting a friend. Then teaching her consequences.

It can't be all of the above at the same time? Having just ONE motive for something is definitely not a requirement.

If your friend did all the stuff you said, then how on earth could she contact him, other than maybe driving her happy ass to his house, if she knew his address. I'd like to think your friend isn't dumb enough to give out his last name, but I don't have a lot of faith in your friend's intelligence.

She couldn't contact him, but that doesn't mean she didn't TRY. I knew she was trying, over and over, because she said so. She was puzzled as to why he didn't return her calls or answer his emails. She honestly thought that she was such hot shit that he wouldn't possibly be ignoring her, so she assumed he wasn't getting them, and thus continued to try. What an idiot.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Of course it can be multiple reasons. But it seems like any time someone brings up a point against one, you sort of lean to the other.

And if there is no possibility of her finding your friend, then you really aren't protecting them. Or you are protecting them from a non-existent threat.

By that logic I have done a fine job of protecting all of the beautiful ladies here from getting attacked by a T-Rex. Since this thread has started and my plan has been implemented, not a single girl here has been attacked. So, I'd like to think my plan is working well. A little gratitude would be appreciated ladies. You girls know what I like.

 

[whynotjustsayit]

What the fuck....this thread has a 9 to 5 shift now?

Reminds me a WHOLE LOT of this:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=uOSuhxFo76o

 

[heavyhitter01]

Of course it can be multiple reasons. But it seems like any time someone brings up a point against one, you sort of lean to the other.

I'm sure I do that. But it seems necessary, because someone is always bringing up points that don't focus on the big picture. They pick a point and attack it, gnaw on it and hope that it gets a rise out of me, for whatever reason...so it's necessary to remind them that there is a BIG PICTURE here, not just a little bit you can grab and twist and try to break. The situation is not that simple.

 

[heavyhitter01]

What the fuck....this thread has a 9 to 5 shift now?

I hold down the 9 to 5 shift, because I'm working during the other shifts. I expect others to take the swing, evening and overnight shifts. Alas, it seems nobody has done so yet. You looking for a job?

 

[whynotjustsayit]

I hold down the 9 to 5 shift, because I'm working during the other shifts. I expect others to take the swing, evening and overnight shifts. Alas, it seems nobody has done so yet. You looking for a job?

Hahaaaaaaaaa, nooooooo thanks. It would be snoozeville in those shifts without you around.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I'm sure I do that. But it seems necessary, because someone is always bringing up points that don't focus on the big picture. They pick a point and attack it, gnaw on it and hope that it gets a rise out of me, for whatever reason...so it's necessary to remind them that there is a BIG PICTURE here, not just a little bit you can grab and twist and try to break. The situation is not that simple.

I get it. Just don't like the protecting my friends part. That's kind of stupid. You're not protecting your friends any more than I am protecting people from T-Rex attacks. So let's not use that reason anymore.

 

[heavyhitter01]

I get it. Just don't like the protecting my friends part. That's kind of stupid. You're not protecting your friends anymore than I am protecting people from T-Rex attacks. So let's not use that reason anymore.

I can understand that. I really do believe I was (and still am) protecting my friends by making sure this woman is stopped. But I can understand how you see it differently.

 

[whynotjustsayit]

On to more salient questions. Who's gonna play heavyhitter01 in the movie?

And most importantly...will HE take it up the ass?

I'll be playing the one who gets laid, so not heavyhitter. I will have to have sex with my girlfriend, then sex with TL, then sex with my girlfriend/fiancée/wife. But the thing is, my now wife likes threesomes and sixsomes, so, there will be many ladies to enjoy the role. Like I said, I take artistic liberties. But only for the sake of art, mind you.

Oh, and for all those ladies who've asked (you know who you are), when I said no anal, I meant no anal for me. You won't be doing me up the arse. No penises. No fists. No feet. Nothing. But you will get anal, as you've all requested.

 

[heavyhitter01]

On to more salient questions. Who's gonna play heavyhitter01 in the movie?

And most importantly...will HE take it up the ass?

I would gladly play my part, though I doubt any of the ladies here would want me anywhere near them.

Up the ass? From a hot woman with a strap-on? Bring it.

 

[Lord Pmann]

On to more salient questions. Who's gonna play heavyhitter01 in the movie?

And most importantly...will HE take it up the ass?

Hahahaha. That is a good point. Maybe we will let HH pick. Who do you want to play your part mate?

But yeah, HH, you have to take it up the ass. Remember, artistic liberties.

 

[culloden]

Alright, I'm starting to imagine the movie. It could start out like one of the casting couch pornos, with TL being the woman (instead of the guy) behind the desk doing the "casting".

 

[Lord Pmann]

I would gladly play my part, though I doubt any of the ladies here would want me anywhere near them.

Up the ass? From a hot woman with a strap-on? Bring it.

Hot? No. Woman? No. Not what the director has in mind.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Alright, I'm starting to imagine the movie. It could start out like one of the casting couch pornos, with TL being the woman (instead of the guy) behind the desk doing the "casting".

If only I knew what a casting couch porno was.

And ladies, when Sofia Vergara heard I was going to be doing the sex scenes myself and not using a cock double, her agent called and demanded an audition. I was hesitant to give her one, as I didn't want it interfering with our personal relationship, but I gave in. I'm such a softy. So the competition will be fierce.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Hot? No. Woman? No. Not what the director has in mind.

Ah, well. Guess I'm not getting laid at all, then.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Ah, well. Guess I'm not getting laid at all, then.

Do you wanna be in the movie or not?

The sex scene will be good for you. Think Pulp Fiction. Or The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Or American History X.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Do you wanna be in the movie or not?

The sex scene will be good for you. Think Pulp Fiction. Or The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. Or American History X.

Nah. I'll just sit back and be entertained while I plot my next path of evil vengeance.

 

[whynotjustsayit]

I would gladly play my part, though I doubt any of the ladies here would want me anywhere near them.

Oh, I wouldn't say that. Not getting laid for a while due to heavy work schedule? All that righteous anger? Who knows, you might be great for a hard fucking.

Up the ass? From a hot woman with a strap-on? Bring it.

*volunteers*

(Uh oh....does that mean I'm playing TL in the movie...?)


Just don't cast me as heavyhitter01's friend's wife okay? That's got to be a dull part. Like Ashley's wife in Gone With The Wind. Too goody goody for me.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Nah. I'll just sit back and be entertained while I plot my next path of evil vengeance.

Fine. Now I have to rewrite the script. I'll cast Culloden as you. I'll have to rework the sex scenes now to accommodate HH and his slack ass quitter mentality.

Culloden, would you prefer Heidi Klum and Kelley Brooke at the same time or different sex scenes?

 

[heavyhitter01]

Oh, I wouldn't say that. Not getting laid for a while due to heavy work schedule? All that righteous anger? Who knows, you might be great for a hard fucking.

Just the words "hard fucking" get me hard.

Christ. I need to get laid.

Just don't cast me as heavyhitter01's friend's wife okay? That's got to be a dull part. Like Ashley's wife in Gone With The Wind. Too goody goody for me.

I wouldn't bank on that. She's a redhead, and I have yet to meet a redhead who is a goody-goody.

 

[culloden]

Fine. Now I have to rewrite the script. I'll cast Culloden as you. I'll have to rework the sex scenes now to accommodate HH and his slack ass quitter mentality.

Culloden, would you prefer Heidi Klum and Kelley Brooke at the same time or different sex scenes?

I think you're experiencing limited imagination. Why not different scenes first followed by a duet?