How To Get To Heaven When You Die

DO YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 9.2%
  • NO

    Votes: 44 50.6%
  • I ALREADY PLACED MY FAITH IN CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICE

    Votes: 22 25.3%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 13 14.9%

  • Total voters
    87
I guess dying is the only way to get there? Why don't more xtians commit suicide?

Well I could give you scripture verses about purpose (you can google that), but the simple answer is we still got stuff to do!!!! My "stuff" right now is to stick around and see what you are up to! I'm not like a guardian angel but more like a....... well......stalker:eek:
 
I don't dispute that the Iranian government has done, and continues to do, some very bad things.

And all things considered, I would prefer to live in the U.S. But you continually look the other way, and praise a U.S. leader who also does some very bad things, and is morally corrupt and who continues to violate every single one of the tenants that Jesus Christ taught us. We had a peace deal with Iran. Guess which leader violated it- it wasn't Iran; think about that.

I don't mean to judge you but I really would like you to really think about how well your views jibe with what Jesus taught in the Bible. Because they do not. I just want you to think, reflect on your own selfish views versus what Jesus is really saying.

As for you being nothing more than a forum troll, this is exhibit A: From your very own words.

"Why Is The Democrats Default Position To Side With The Enemies Of The US?
-They Hate America & Want Communism
-They Want To Make America A 3rd World Country
-They Truly Believe That America Is Bad & Socialist Nations That Oppress Their Own People Are Better
-They Are Just Trying To Oppose Any Republican Does Whether They Agree With It Or Not"

Gues what Frodo,...THIS IS A TROLL POST!

It is inflammatory and controversial, and you know it. You know dang well that logically, the Democrats do NOT side with the Enemies of the U.S. (Trump does by the way, he blatantly sides with Putin and Russia, but we'll ignore that for the moment-as you evidently do.) So why post shit like this? Why say stuff like "They hate America and Want Communism?" Geez, nobody wants communism, and nobody wants to make America a 3rd world country! I mean, Dang, do you really believe this crap? Because if you do, then you really are ignorant, but I give you more credit than that- you may not be as ignorant as you sound, but when you make statements like that, YOU ARE TROLLING! And you need to stop.

Trump is the greatest President in our Lifetime. His policies are spot on, unlike the traitor that we had in office before him. You are so upset that Trump had sex before he was married, were you just as outraged over Clinton? Obama did cocaine and possibly had homosexual relationships . One man even testified before Congress that that was the case. Frankly, that is between Obama and God and Trump and God. What I care about is Trump's policies that are working, and Obama's were the opposite of what works.

The Democrats MO is to start a big fight, then accuse the other side of what they themselves did, then call for peace. I don't play that game. That political post is not this topic. If you wish to discuss it, then go to THAT topic and discuss it. I am not going to respond to this rubbish anymore regarding that political post other than in THAT thread.

I know 100% that the Democrats DO side with the enemies of the US as they are with IRAN, like they did when Bush wanted to go into Iraq, as they did during Vietnam, like they do when Trump has a dispute over trade and other other polices as with France. They ALWAYS side with the enemies of the US. They always side with what will hurt the US.

I'm done with that topic. If you want to discuss it further, go to THAT thread.
 
Well I could give you scripture verses about purpose (you can google that), but the simple answer is we still got stuff to do!!!! My "stuff" right now is to stick around and see what you are up to! I'm not like a guardian angel but more like a....... well......stalker:eek:

Not meant for your eyes. :eek:
And spamming a spammer. Some people need to learn how to share. 🤷
 
Trump is the greatest President in our Lifetime. His policies are spot on, unlike the traitor that we had in office before him. (MORE TROLLING STATEMENTS) You are so upset that Trump had sex before he was married, were you just as outraged over Clinton? Obama did cocaine and possibly had homosexual relationships . One man even testified before Congress that that was the case. Frankly, that is between Obama and God and Trump and God. What I care about is Trump's policies that are working, and Obama's were the opposite of what works.

The Democrats MO is to start a big fight, then accuse the other side of what they themselves did, then call for peace. I don't play that game. That political post is not this topic. If you wish to discuss it, then go to THAT topic and discuss it. I am not going to respond to this rubbish anymore regarding that political post other than in THAT thread.

I know 100% that the Democrats DO side with the enemies of the US as they are with IRAN, like they did when Bush wanted to go into Iraq, as they did during Vietnam, like they do when Trump has a dispute over trade and other other polices as with France. They ALWAYS side with the enemies of the US. They always side with what will hurt the US.

I'm done with that topic. If you want to discuss it further, go to THAT thread.

All I'm saying is this. You pay lip service to being a Christian. You say all the right things about accepting Jesus Christ as your savior, but it is nothing more than empty words if you do not share the same values that Jesus Christ taught. And in your open fawning admiration for Donald Trump, it is clear that you do not.

And furthermore, your inflammatory rhetoric characterizes you as a troll. I do not like forum trolls.

At a nativity scene this past Christmas, there was a display of Jesus Christ separated from Mary and Joseph, surrounded by a razor wire barbed wire fence. It was meant to symbolize how our current government treats it's refugees- people like Mary and Joseph who sought safe harbor from oppression. Many small children- and babies- have in fact separated from their parents and kept in barbed wire cages. And this is but one of the abominations of this administration that you enthusiastically support.

Matt.25, v. 42-44: "For I was hungered and you game me no meat, I was thirsty and ye gave me no drink, I was a stranger, and ye took me not in, naked and ye clothed me not, sick and in jail, and ye visited me not...
...Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. "

Just think about this for a bit, and how it compares with our current leader's values of greed above humanity, and strength without compassion. And please, in Jesus's name, rethink your views and stop trolling this forum. I welcome people who can discuss things intelligently and the way to do that is to stop with the ignorant trolling statements.
 
All I'm saying is this. You pay lip service to being a Christian. You say all the right things about accepting Jesus Christ as your savior, but it is nothing more than empty words if you do not share the same values that Jesus Christ taught. And in your open fawning admiration for Donald Trump, it is clear that you do not.

And furthermore, your inflammatory rhetoric characterizes you as a troll. I do not like forum trolls.

At a nativity scene this past Christmas, there was a display of Jesus Christ separated from Mary and Joseph, surrounded by a razor wire barbed wire fence. It was meant to symbolize how our current government treats it's refugees- people like Mary and Joseph who sought safe harbor from oppression. Many small children- and babies- have in fact separated from their parents and kept in barbed wire cages. And this is but one of the abominations of this administration that you enthusiastically support.

Matt.25, v. 42-44: "For I was hungered and you game me no meat, I was thirsty and ye gave me no drink, I was a stranger, and ye took me not in, naked and ye clothed me not, sick and in jail, and ye visited me not...
...Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. "

Just think about this for a bit, and how it compares with our current leader's values of greed above humanity, and strength without compassion. And please, in Jesus's name, rethink your views and stop trolling this forum. I welcome people who can discuss things intelligently and the way to do that is to stop with the ignorant trolling statements.

All I am saying is that just because I disagree with YOU doesn't mean I am not a Christian. YOU are not the authority, God is. For you to judge my salvation is to show that you have no concept of what qualifies a person for salvation. If you supported Obama, you were supporting the most Anti Christian President in history. Trump is the most Pro Christian President in history. Stop being a hypocrite.
 
All I am saying is that just because I disagree with YOU doesn't mean I am not a Christian. YOU are not the authority, God is. For you to judge my salvation is to show that you have no concept of what qualifies a person for salvation. If you supported Obama, you were supporting the most Anti Christian President in history. Trump is the most Pro Christian President in history. Stop being a hypocrite.

I just spoke to God tonight.

She said you are full of crap, and you will be going straight to Hell, because you keep mixing Christianity with your personal politics.

I know, this is bad news for you, but somebody had to break the news. God says she wants you to repent ASAP.
 
Politics and Religion are intertwined. Your religious beliefs or lack of them affects your political beliefs and decisions.
 
Science agrees with Jesus that these things lead to a happy life.

https://www.wnd.com/2020/01/science-agrees-jesus-things-lead-happy-life/

And this Wiki article clearly exposes Xfrodo's " source"as a bunch of liars, fanatics, extremists and "christians," that is so called christians, just like Xfrodo. :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

C'mon Xfrodo lift your game. It never takes more than a couple of seconds to expose your nonsense. And be careful especially about that "Bearing false witness." :D:D
 
And this Wiki article clearly exposes Xfrodo's " source"as a bunch of liars, fanatics, extremists and "christians," that is so called christians, just like Xfrodo. :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

C'mon Xfrodo lift your game. It never takes more than a couple of seconds to expose your nonsense. And be careful especially about that "Bearing false witness." :D:D

Wiki is a Democrat, Partisan source now days. It proves nothing except that Wiki is Left Wing. WND is a credible source, Wiki is not any longer. It now falls into the Snopes category.
 
Science agrees with Jesus that these things lead to a happy life


https://www.wnd.com/2020/01/science-agrees-jesus-things-lead-happy-life/
The article isn’t there. One has to click a link to this site to find the article:
https://aleteia.org/2020/01/14/scie...ce=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated

The article’s author pulls a few lines from the New Testament, adds his own interpretation, and tells us that it aligns with a scientific study. Never mind those other scriptures about the values of celibacy, social isolation and forsaking one’s family.
 
Wiki is a Democrat, Partisan source now days. It proves nothing except that Wiki is Left Wing. WND is a credible source, Wiki is not any longer. It now falls into the Snopes category.

When you characterize WND as a credible source you are clearly a deranged liar and/or a fool. And you would not have a clue what scientific method was if it bit your ass.

WND was established by a charlatan who rooked $5 million in capital out of Fundamentalist fuckwits then made himself CEO with a handsome salary. He takes all his articles from other looney right wing rags. You have been sucked in by a con man Xfrodo if you believe a word of anything WND publishes.

Fer chrissake, WND is still insisting Obama was born in Kenya! - and you reckon they're credible. :D
 
Wiki is a Democrat, Partisan source now days. It proves nothing except that Wiki is Left Wing. WND is a credible source, Wiki is not any longer. It now falls into the Snopes category.

When the FACTS presented disprove or call one's own views into question, it is a stubborn fool that simply dismisses those sources as "Left Wing" or "Partisan." Because facts, and truth don't lie. We may have our beliefs challenged by these hard facts, but sometimes that may indicate our beliefs are flawed, not the facts.

Rather than simply call out Wiki or Snopes as "biased" because the facts the present invalidate your own views, maybe you should show some intelligence and question your views. Instead of citing your own long-discredited and long-debunked sources.
 
Politics and Religion are intertwined. Your religious beliefs or lack of them affects your political beliefs and decisions.

That's why I have such a problem with your own political beliefs and decisions, Frodo. Because I, too, am a Christian who has accepted Jesus Christ, and I find your views abhorrent.

If you really had read the words of Jesus Christ and believed in what He said, you would understand that your continual fawning praise of Donald Trump makes you a hypocrite- plain and simple. Because Trump's beliefs and actions are the antitheses of what Jesus Christ taught us. I fail to see why you cannot understand that, and it saddens me.
 
When the FACTS presented disprove or call one's own views into question, it is a stubborn fool that simply dismisses those sources as "Left Wing" or "Partisan." Because facts, and truth don't lie. We may have our beliefs challenged by these hard facts, but sometimes that may indicate our beliefs are flawed, not the facts.

Rather than simply call out Wiki or Snopes as "biased" because the facts the present invalidate your own views, maybe you should show some intelligence and question your views. Instead of citing your own long-discredited and long-debunked sources.

Nope that's what YOU did when I presented you with WND a credible source. You tried to disprove my credible source by giving the opinion of some Left wing incredible source. You're right, the truth doesn't lie and the FACTS are on MY side NOT yours.

Wiki and Snopes doesn't provide facts, they provide opinion disguised as fact. WND provides facts.
 
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