How stupid are the trolls getting?

[Duleigh]

I'm handicapped by my conviction that cheating is cheating, so deduct scoring points no matter the genders involved.

I got this on a story that has been posted for months and unfortunately for Mr. Troll there was no cheating of any form, not in bed, not at cards in this story. There may have been a questionable triple word score, but the strip scrabble game was taken out in editing.

Sound familiar? Has this knuckle dragger been past your realm?

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

Wha? That comment just brought up two things that have nothing to with eachother and make no sense. Eh??????

Fortunately I've not gotten comments like this. I suppose I've curated my audience well.

That comment though... wow I think I've gotten more coherent sentences out of my cat walking across the keyboard overnight.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I got this on a story that has been posted for months and unfortunately for Mr. Troll there was no cheating of any form, not in bed, not at cards in this story. There may have been a questionable triple word score, but the strip scrabble game was taken out in editing.

Sound familiar? Has this knuckle dragger been past your realm?

I mean, on the one hand, it's entirely possible that the guy had two stories open in two different tabs and just happened to post a comment in the wrong one. I've done it myself on the forums...yes, entirely possible...


There is a wonderful air of nobility about the comment - the poster would have liked to have been less moral than they are, so they could have given you a good rating, but alas their principles of gender-equality and monogamy got in the way. I'm reminded of that scene where Peter Parker wishes he had less morality so he could use the vacine he just recovered from the villian to save his dying aunt rather than send it to the lab to be replicated so it could save the rest of the population of the city, but alas it was impossible for both him and his aunt to continance.

(In a highly experimental approach to spoilers, I'm going to try saying exactly what happened, but not which of the thousands of Spider-man related media products this occurred in...)

 

[ElectricBlue]

There is a wonderful air of nobility about the comment - the poster would have liked to have been less moral than they are, so they could have given you a good rating, but alas their principles of gender-equality and monogamy got in the way.

Lol. A high minded fucktard. Now there's a novelty!

 

[lovecraft68]

I got this on a story that has been posted for months and unfortunately for Mr. Troll there was no cheating of any form, not in bed, not at cards in this story. There may have been a questionable triple word score, but the strip scrabble game was taken out in editing.

Sound familiar? Has this knuckle dragger been past your realm?

Unlike the low minded fool above me, I don't judge people for having a stance on cheating, or any form or morality. Look around, we could use a little these days.

I'm very anti-cheat. However, I can release that when it comes to fictional erotic stories. My point to the troll however, would be what are you doing reading those types of stories because as someone else said, he either had two browsers open, or he assumed something about your story and dropped his preachy remark.

I withhold any personal beliefs from my comments on stories because the author did not write it just for me, but for whoever can appreciate whatever the topic is, so no need to put the "well, my feeling is..." and apply real life to it.

End of the day that's not the worst you'll get here, preachy can be annoying, but I'll take it over hate filled spew.

Several years ago I received a feedback-anymouse of course- on a story I wrote about my wife's struggle with cancer. The comment was they wished she'd died and I killed myself afterwards.

I'm a believer in the power of perspective, so once I get something like that, everything else just becomes noise or flat out funny depending on my mood. I'm also a believer in karma, and that type ultimately always gets theirs.

I'll leave off with my-and some others-statement that creating a thread about this just gave that troll a win.

 

[Duleigh]

My point to the troll however, would be what are you doing reading those types of stories because as someone else said, he either had two browsers open, or he assumed something about your story and dropped his preachy remark.

If he was commenting on a different story... buddy, when you type a comment here on Lit - use both hands.

The story he/she/it commented on was two broken people coming together to heal each other and in the end the hero proposes to his lady love. Could it be that my knuckle dragging troll read enough to discover that the guy is divorced, and the self-righteous prig considers remarriage cheating?

But more important - if you're that clueless that you freak out over the actions of imaginary characters, when you come here and read these stories and relive the sex lives of other people, in your mind are you not cheating on your significant other? Just what the hell is this drooling troll doing here?

 

[TarnishedPenny]

I've received comments in a number of stories saying, in effect, Good story, but you misused the word ______, the problem being that I did not use that word (or anything close to it) in the story on which they were commenting. Right. I'll keep that in mind.

On a different note, I had one tale which had, let's say, the word 'heels' in the title, in the one-line grabber and in the tags. Somebody read the whole thing and left a comment along the lines of Well-written, good characters, decent plot, really good sex, but I don't like heels, so I'm only giving you a 3. I guess that showed me, right?

 

[lovecraft68]

If he was commenting on a different story... buddy, when you type a comment here on Lit - use both hands.

The story he/she/it commented on was two broken people coming together to heal each other and in the end the hero proposes to his lady love. Could it be that my knuckle dragging troll read enough to discover that the guy is divorced, and the self-righteous prig considers remarriage cheating?

But more important - if you're that clueless that you freak out over the actions of imaginary characters, when you come here and read these stories and relive the sex lives of other people, in your mind are you not cheating on your significant other? Just what the hell is this drooling troll doing here?

That's an interesting point as far as is reading dirty stories cheating? Is watching porn cheating? Personally I don't take it to that degree, fantasies are fantasies, just don't act them out with anyone but your SO.

Its a funny case of personal justification. Example, is role playing cheating? I'd say yes if you're dirty talking someone not your partner, unless its with permission. But some would say its not. Then you get the extreme of the other side where oral sex isn't cheating....yeah, sure.

I lump this person in with what I call 'category trolls" where they run up and down taboo, or LW or GM and bash the stories but yet that's where they are....its the damn, this got me off, now I'm mad and you're going to pay for my conflicted feelings

 

[IsabellaEmily]

I got this on a story that has been posted for months and unfortunately for Mr. Troll there was no cheating of any form, not in bed, not at cards in this story. There may have been a questionable triple word score, but the strip scrabble game was taken out in editing.

Sound familiar? Has this knuckle dragger been past your realm?

As much as I agree about relationship cheating, how can that be the basis for the deduction of points? By that logic any story without cheating should automatically get an addition of points.

I tend to judge stories based on the quality of the story. If a character is interesting I consider that character to be well written. I might loathe the character and consider them to be a terrible person. But I judge whether or not they're INTERESTING rather than if I'd want to eat a meal with them, or live next door to them, or take them into my bed.

I have gotten some asinine comments. Had one guy who commented over and over and over on every story along the lines of "I dread clicking on another one of your poorly written stories with detestable characters and go nowhere plots! Worst possible grade from me for continuing to make me sift through this garbage!"

I feel bad if you read one of my stories and hate it. I stop feeling bad if you KEEP reading because you know what you're getting into. But I suspect (like most everyone else who writes here) that there are people so in love with complaining that it's like a sport to them.

What those trolls do is make me even more appreciative of those who love what I write and truly enjoy the same kinks that I enjoy writing about.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I got this on a story that has been posted for months and unfortunately for Mr. Troll there was no cheating of any form, not in bed, not at cards in this story. There may have been a questionable triple word score, but the strip scrabble game was taken out in editing.

Sound familiar? Has this knuckle dragger been past your realm?

People have their personal triggers and preferences. Your troll is starting out with "Cheating = minus one out of five". As long as said troll goes on to qualify the rest of their evaluation, I wouldn't look at them as a troll. Everyone has their biases and scoring system.

If you were tracking that story's rate often enough, did the troll give it a 1 or possibly a 3 or 4? If they gave it a 1, then by all means, it's a troll.

 

[Amy_66]

It is as easy to bait a troll as it is to buy a defective product from the ACME corporation (Roadrunner reference).

 

[Lifestyle66]

Also, I disagree with some opinions on rating stories here on LitE.

Some authors seem to have the opinion that by posting a story, they start with a rating of 5, and readers either support them or they are 1-bombing trolls.

I'm more of the opinion that every story posted here is merely a collection of words, and as compared to any other collection of words, it's merely a 3 (average.) Then it's up to the author to prove themselves and convince me that I should like or love their effort in arranging their particular collection.

Some people might inadvertently open a story which triggers them to hate it with a 1. But the saddest trolls are those go forth seeking stories they know they'll hate, merely to give it a 1. They apparently have no joy in their lives to otherwise distract them from hate.

 

[Amy_66]

It's "easy" to write a 4.8*... Choose a popular theme, give the "average" reader "exactly" what "they" expect-- no more, no less-- and DON'T MIX KINKS!!! Make it the "perfect" length...

It's slightly time consuming, but all of those fuzzy metrics are in the best of the best lists if you boil them down.

*LW uses an inverse score system where 1.0 is perfect.

There you have it... a BORING cookie cutter 4.8... Okay to do so you can say you did, but not much use after that.

Everything here is free to read and comment on... my advice is don't take the scores too seriously. (And the number of reads is just the number of clicks so don't take that too seriously either.)

 

[TarnishedPenny]

What those trolls do is make me even more appreciative of those who love what I write and truly enjoy the same kinks that I enjoy writing about.

Precisely!

 

[Lifestyle66]

It's "easy" to write a 4.8*... Choose a popular theme, give the "average" reader "exactly" what "they" expect-- no more, no less-- and DON'T MIX KINKS!!! Make it the "perfect" length...

It's slightly time consuming, but all of those fuzzy metrics are in the best of the best lists if you boil them down.

*LW uses an inverse score system where 1.0 is perfect.

LW is not inversely scored based on your formula.

Look at the highly rated LW stories (not those of the long past, but the more recent ones.) You'll find the "average" LW rater (not all readers, but just those who leave a rating score) wants EXACTLY a "burn-the-bitch" scenario. That perfect BTB story usually averages over a 4.0 early in the publication timeline.

That perfect BTB story arc is:
Trusting husband with a loving but bored wife.
Wife is drawn to a lover.
Husband discovers wife's cheating.
Husband employs a devious scheme to destroy the wife and her lover.
Husband finds a devoted new girlfriend, while wife is left destitute.
Any kids involved have nothing to do with the cheating ex-wife.

 

[Comshaw]

Also, I disagree with some opinions on rating stories here on LitE.

Some authors seem to have the opinion that by posting a story, they start with a rating of 5, and readers either support them or they are 1-bombing trolls.

I'm more of the opinion that every story posted here is merely a collection of words, and as compared to any other collection of words, it's merely a 3 (average.) Then it's up to the author to prove themselves and convince me that I should like or love their effort in arranging their particular collection.

Some people might inadvertently open a story which triggers them to hate it with a 1. But the saddest trolls are those go forth seeking stories they know they'll hate, merely to give it a 1. They apparently have no joy in their lives to otherwise distract them from hate.

Exactly! It's like the old well-worn joke, "A guy goes to the doctor and while talking to the doctor pokes himself with his finger and says, "Doc, it hurts when I do this."
The doc responds, "Well don't do that!"

Stumbling on to a story that isn't well tagged and contains things they don't like then letting the author about it is one thing. Reading a story clearly labeled as something abhorrent to them, or in a category they don't like, then bitching about the content is something else entirely.

From some of the comments I have received I know there is a faction of readers (the biggest concentration of which is in LW) who live to read stuff they know they hate, stuff they can gripe and whine about, howling to everyone how much they hate the subject matter. Ain't much to do for it though other than make fun of them and move on.

Comshaw

 

[Lifestyle66]

Exactly! It's like the old well-worn joke, "A guy goes to the doctor and while talking to the doctor pokes himself with his finger and says, "Doc, it hurts when I do this."
The doc responds, "Well don't do that!"

Stumbling on to a story that isn't well tagged and contains things they don't like then letting the author about it is one thing. Reading a story clearly labeled as something abhorrent to them, or in a category they don't like, then bitching about the content is something else entirely.

From some of the comments I have received I know there is a faction of readers (the biggest concentration of which is in LW) who live to read stuff they know they hate, stuff they can gripe and whine about, howling to everyone how much they hate the subject matter. Ain't much to do for it though other than make fun of them and move on.

Comshaw

Within the first week of publication, story tags are not usually the troll attractant or determining factor justifying a surprise trigger. In fact, the tags are never a warning, since any search shows those stories with that searched tag. You click on a story and must go to the end to find the othter tags which might have warned you of a trigger.

During those early days, the story shows in the New category and in the newest twenty-five of the category's subpage. It's the title and description line which screams "consensual wife sharing" and they still click on it to 1-bomb which is irritating. But my attitude is now that I'm providing those who have no other life with their entertainment.

 

[lc69hunter]

There is a difference between the anonymous trolls and those that at least make their identity known. As for those who troll cheating, sharing, cuckolding, and other variations of the same story, the latest survey/study I read said that 42% of women have admitted cheating on their husbands. Most were not affairs, but episodes of opportunity and convenience. That means that almost half of us have been cuckolded at some point in our marriage or relationship. Of course the trolls do not want to hear this and scream BTB. But that is life. I have always assumed that it was the tags that alerted them, because the trolls seem to find them even if they are posted in another category. But I may be wrong

 

[Amy_66]

LW is not inversely scored based on your formula.

No, I was being facetious. The trolls in LW are just toooooo much fun not to bait.

I have a couple LW stories written waaaay back when it should have been titled "Swingers and Wife-swappers" that still have 4.25 to 4.55 scores.

But I AIM at 1.0 in LW nowadays-- for instance: the insecure guy who marries the beautiful ditz who would never THINK about cheating... because she doesn't think... so when she IS cheating... with EVERYONE... she isn't giving it a single thought.

 

[Lifestyle66]

There is a difference between the anonymous trolls and those that at least make their identity known. As for those who troll cheating, sharing, cuckolding, and other variations of the same story, the latest survey/study I read said that 42% of women have admitted cheating on their husbands. Most were not affairs, but episodes of opportunity and convenience. That means that almost half of us have been cuckolded at some point in our marriage or relationship. Of course the trolls do not want to hear this and scream BTB. But that is life. I have always assumed that it was the tags that alerted them, because the trolls seem to find them even if they are posted in another category. But I may be wrong

Those who look for such tags to 1-bomb would have a long list of past stories to stay busy. It's more likely you are seeing random stories popping up which they 1-bomb. Or in some cases, it's a troll recently triggered by your story going back to your story list.

 

[Lifestyle66]

No, I was being facetious. The trolls in LW are just toooooo much fun not to bait.

I have a couple LW stories written waaaay back when it should have been titled "Swingers and Wife-swappers" that still have 4.25 to 4.55 scores.

But I AIM at 1.0 in LW nowadays-- for instance: the insecure guy who marries the beautiful ditz who would never THINK about cheating... because she doesn't think... so when she IS cheating... with EVERYONE... she isn't giving it a single thought.

Did you read my story "A Gathering of Trolls"? I was aiming for 1.0 with that.

 

[Amy_66]

There is a difference between the anonymous trolls and those that at least make their identity known. As for those who troll cheating, sharing, cuckolding, and other variations of the same story, the latest survey/study I read said that 42% of women have admitted cheating on their husbands. Most were not affairs, but episodes of opportunity and convenience. That means that almost half of us have been cuckolded at some point in our marriage or relationship. Of course the trolls do not want to hear this and scream BTB. But that is life. I have always assumed that it was the tags that alerted them, because the trolls seem to find them even if they are posted in another category. But I may be wrong

I have never... ever... cheated on my husband... nor would I think about it.
We've had lots of fun swinging, swapping, and having group sex tho'...

 

[Amy_66]

Did you read my story "A Gathering of Trolls"? I was aiming for 1.0 with that.

No, but I will check it out.

 

[Amy_66]

....in some cases, it's a troll recently triggered by your story going back to your story list.

Which is why I was advised over a decade ago to have a separate alt in each category, or sub category.

 

[Lifestyle66]

No, but I will check it out.

If you like my troll story (aimed at troll poking), next try my Amorous Goods story about swingers.