How do I learn to trust again?

Hmm...LOL. Well, this thread made me smile today. :)

Johnny: Dear Johnny, I listen to you more than you realize. I really do. You just get frustrated because I tend to not listen to you immediately. But hey, that's why you love me, right? I'm a challenge. ;)

ABN: Ya know...it really IS a cool hat. Combat proven, even. What more could a girl ever ask for? :D

watergirl: Yes, it made sense, and it was more appropriate than you know! I understood perfectly. I have had a few of those 'wow, lookie, I'm better' moments...especially the big milestones, like the first day I didn't cry, or the day I washed his shirt...you know...the one he left on the floor after the last time we made love, the one that smelled like him? Yeah. That one. Simply being able to put it in the washer was a big step for me. A small measure of letting go, I guess.

The relapses hit with a vengeance, though...do they ever. But through all this I have learned to rely on friends, to take them seriously when they tell me I can call them anytime.

And thank you, watergirl, for always being so supportive. :rose:

Ang: You know, a vacation is exactly what I need. I need to get away from the memories, the responsibilities, and the daily grind for a while.

I do try to take care of myself...yet I feel guilty if I can't be there for others. I'm finally understanding what the Music Man meant when he said he only had enough energy inside him to take care of himself. At first I thought that was selfish, because I reasoned that if I could take care of everything around me and him too, why couldn't he do the same thing? I realize now that was selfish of me to think that way...I just didn't understand. Now I understand that sometimes, moving a hurting heart from one hour to the next takes all the energy inside a person.

That might not have made ANY sense at all, lol.

And yes...when I take that vacation, I will be heading for your place. :)

S.
 
sheath said:
Thank you for that. I needed to hear every single word of it. :rose:

It does seem like the road is endless. Sometimes I feel like I am back at square one. Grief seems to go on forever.

Patience and hope...I'm holding onto that. :)

S.


And friends, don't forget friends ;)
 
What more could a girl ask for you ask???
How about a fun filled day in the desert with a bunch of Air Force guys and as much ammunition as it takes to vent any and all frustration, anger and rage? Cause I got lots of guys who wanna take ya shooting, especially since Ang has that program that lets you turn someones photo into a target.
 
ABN_Ranger said:
What more could a girl ask for you ask???
How about a fun filled day in the desert with a bunch of Air Force guys and as much ammunition as it takes to vent any and all frustration, anger and rage? Cause I got lots of guys who wanna take ya shooting, especially since Ang has that program that lets you turn someones photo into a target.

Oooooo!!!!!! Can I come too? Please? Sounds like so much fun and I have a couple of pics to shoot at ;)
 
ABN_Ranger said:
What more could a girl ask for you ask???
How about a fun filled day in the desert with a bunch of Air Force guys...

You could have just stopped RIGHT THERE, and that is more than good enough for me. :D

S.
 
SLUT!!



(Hey, I figure you won't listen now, and when you finally do get around to it, I'll be pretty well-hidden!)
 
How do you trust again?

You remind yourself you have made the right choices. You look back on your past and realize out of all the relationships you have had, all but this one with the Music Man turned out very, very well, even when they ended. You are best friends with your ex-boyfriends, for God's sake. You are even good friends with your ex-husband. That says something powerful about you.

It says something about this time, doesn't it? To me it says maybe this situation is not your fault. It says maybe the Music Man is the one who tore your relationship apart. No, he didn't do it intentionally, but that's not the point. The point is: you did nothing wrong. If you ever start to blame yourself, call up one of those ex-boyfriends and listen to the affection in his voice.

If you can't trust yourself yet, trust in those who love you and know you better than you know yourself. Let us hold you up until you can stand alone. You don't have to do it all at once, sheath. You always said it wasn't necessary to be strong all the time and the same holds true when the tables are turned.

Like James G 5 said, lean on friends. Listen to us! That is what we are here for!

:kiss:
 
Johnny Mayberry said:
SLUT!!



(Hey, I figure you won't listen now, and when you finally do get around to it, I'll be pretty well-hidden!)

*gasp*

:eek:

I...simply...cannot...believe...you...called...me...that! *shakes head in amazement*

Manwhore!!

:D

S.
 
judge not said:

If you can't trust yourself yet, trust in those who love you and know you better than you know yourself. Let us hold you up until you can stand alone. You don't have to do it all at once, sheath. You always said it wasn't necessary to be strong all the time and the same holds true when the tables are turned.

Like James G 5 said, lean on friends. Listen to us! That is what we are here for!

:kiss:


You know... I knew there was a reason I loved you, judgey-poo... seriously. I have wished countless times I could be as supportive as you consistently are.

I'm just glad I can help you be part of the steel I beam structure underneath such a wonderful woman. You've become an important part of my life too, just by proxy.

Sheath, darling, it just goes to show that you are not at fault when your own exes raise an eyebrow and say, "He did WHAT?!?!?"
You are not at fault when you have accepted that he is GONE and agree with him to not talk anymore, and HE is the one who can't follow that. You are not at fault when he won't leave it alone.

You are an amazing woman, and you deserve an equally amazing man. You've had a few. And you don't regret those, do you?
Because they didn't completely abuse you to the point of losing trust in EVERYTHING.

I love you. And I love watching you learn that not everything is your fault.

Ang
 
judge not said:
How do you trust again?

You remind yourself you have made the right choices. You look back on your past and realize out of all the relationships you have had, all but this one with the Music Man turned out very, very well, even when they ended. You are best friends with your ex-boyfriends, for God's sake. You are even good friends with your ex-husband. That says something powerful about you.

It says something about this time, doesn't it? To me it says maybe this situation is not your fault. It says maybe the Music Man is the one who tore your relationship apart. No, he didn't do it intentionally, but that's not the point. The point is: you did nothing wrong. If you ever start to blame yourself, call up one of those ex-boyfriends and listen to the affection in his voice.

If you can't trust yourself yet, trust in those who love you and know you better than you know yourself. Let us hold you up until you can stand alone. You don't have to do it all at once, sheath. You always said it wasn't necessary to be strong all the time and the same holds true when the tables are turned.

Like James G 5 said, lean on friends. Listen to us! That is what we are here for!

:kiss:

Thank you for that post. Want to hear something really weird? In all this time, I have never once looked back at my other relationships and compared them to the Music Man. I have wondered, briefly, if I would be able to have a friendship with him one day like those I have with my exes. But to actually put them one beside another and see them in objective comparison? I never have.

The truth is, your post hit me really, really hard. And it isn't just because you are one of those exes. :) It's because I am suddenly seeing things in a whole new light. I read what you had to say, over and over, and it was like my world suddenly looked just a little different. Like one little angle had changed just enough to make the whole painting have to be taken with a different perspective.

As to the last part of your post...I am learning to lean on friends. It is hard for me to do sometimes, because I can't shake the feeling that I should be there for them, not the other way around. I didn't realize how hard it was for me to reach out until all this happened with the Music Man. I was always good at being there for others, but never good at letting others be there for me.

I'm learning now, and it feels great. :)

I read something the other day that talked about the difference between simple friends and real friends...it said something like...

"A simple friend wonders why you are calling them at four AM. A real friend asks you why it took you so long to make that call."

I've been blessed...because every single friend I have falls into the 'real friend' category. It doesn't get better than that. :rose:

S.
 
CelticFrog said:
You are an amazing woman, and you deserve an equally amazing man. You've had a few. And you don't regret those, do you?
Because they didn't completely abuse you to the point of losing trust in EVERYTHING.

I love you. And I love watching you learn that not everything is your fault.

Ang

And, I'm not sure what to say to that part. I just sat here and looked at it for a very long time. Your wisdom amazes me, more often than you know. It's safe to say that I've been left with quite a lot to think about.

It's going to be a LONG bubble bath tonight, while I think. :)

Oh...and I love you, too. :rose:

S.
 
sheath said:
You could have just stopped RIGHT THERE, and that is more than good enough for me. :D

S.

Not for me, I think I need to do a bit of shooting. Sheath you can be entertained by the guys and I'll shoot at the pics ;)
 
Lord knows we have enough weaponry to go around... it's a fifteen foot walk from where I sit.

Now, the ammunition part is a LITTLE trickier. Not much -- just have to go to Wal-Mart. *snicker*

Oh, and I need more black ink before I can print out any more targets. :D

Ang
 
judge not said:
Like James G 5 said, lean on friends. Listen to us! That is what we are here for!

Holy shit, I was right about something? :D
 
James G 5 said:
Holy shit, I was right about something? :D

Yeah, that's the part that gave me pause...

;) :D

judge not just hasn't been around all that long, James. You gotta forgive him for being overoptimistic. :eek:

S.
 
sheath said:
Yeah, that's the part that gave me pause...

;) :D

judge not just hasn't been around all that long, James. You gotta forgive him for being overoptimistic. :eek:

S.


Smart alec :p
 
I dunno, hon...
judge not's been around almost twice as long as I have...

*duck and cover*

Ang
 
CelticFrog said:
I dunno, hon...
judge not's been around almost twice as long as I have...

*duck and cover*

Ang

Oh, that's okay. That just means I can teach you everything I've learned in my older years. ;)

Shit. We just hijacked one of the best threads on here.

:(

We have to get it back on track now.
 
I guess you could TEACH her how to remember to trust then, huh...?

:p

And I'll never learn anything until the two of you come show me... so THERE!

Ang
 
CelticFrog said:
I guess you could TEACH her how to remember to trust then, huh...?

:p

And I'll never learn anything until the two of you come show me... so THERE!

Ang

I think I might like to watch,
and no silly man I am not turning into a voyuer, at least not until I see something worth ummm..... well, I am sure you understand...
 
CelticFrog said:
I guess you could TEACH her how to remember to trust then, huh...?

:p

And I'll never learn anything until the two of you come show me... so THERE!

Ang


Teach??? Learn??? Does this mean I need to take notes??? Is there gonna be a test? I hate tests... I need to find someone to cheat off of now. How many points do I get for spelling my name right? I mean hell, it's not like I can get it wrong... I think it's on all my uniforms. hehe
 
LOL darling, it's only the LAST name they put on there. You still have to rely on your own intellect for the first name.

Mind you, I can't rely on mine right now. You're sleeping comfortably, and I am wide awake with the realization that our little resolution has, I believe, led to a UTI.

Damnit.

Guess I can't really TRUST myself to come up with good resolutions, can I?

sheath honey, if it makes you feel better, I trust you more than me at this point in the morning.

Ang
 
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