How do Christians negatively affect your life?

[Chadrone]

Here's some "gas" for you, selected quotes from Christopher Hitchens:

You hate religion, got it. Can you point out how it's actually a poison for civilization instead of a critical component??

The history of human civilisation . . . well, I'll just quote Christopher Hitchens again

Violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children: organized religion ought to have a great deal on its conscience.

Hitchens dislike of religion doesn't negate it's role in building and maintaining civil society.

More "BUTT STUFF I DON'T LIKE!!" from another guy to deflect from the fact that every civilization that got beyond the gang/tribe did so with religion. You don't get a civilized society without it. It's NEVER happened, doesn't exist and until there is some key evolutionary change in the fundamental nature of what a human is, likely never will.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
As for governments and laws, remember the laws, like your First Amendment or Emancipation of Catholics in the UK in the 19th century or the French Laïcité, that combat the deleterious effects religion has on "social cohesion"!

You don't understand the first amendment.

And I don't think you understand what I mean by social cohesion.

I'll give you an example from your "founding fathers," mmkay? Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) knew about the War of the Spanish Succession (Queen Anne's war to you folks) because it took place in his lifetime. In the war, Louis XIV supported James Stuart (Catholic) against William (Protestant).

They knew about the poison religion unleashes. I think it's you who doesn't understand the first amendment!

 

[Chadrone]

I'll give you an example from your "founding fathers," mmkay? Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) knew about the War of the Spanish Succession (Queen Anne's war to you folks) because it took place in his lifetime. In the war, Louis XIV supported James Stuart (Catholic) against William (Protestant).

They knew about the poison religion unleashes. I think it's you who doesn't understand the first amendment!

Random bullshit doesn't make the Declaration of Independence go away or change the structure of the Constitution

1A was to keep the government off religion, notices how our Bill of Rights is a list of shit the government CAN'T do?? That's not a mistake. 1A restricts the government, not religion or religious people. That's why we have so many religious leaders in offices pushing their various religious values.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hitchens dislike of religion doesn't negate it's role in building and maintaining civil society.

Role? From Yugoslavia to Northern Ireland to Sri Lanka, the role of religion has been to tear down society!

 

[Chadrone]

Role? From Yugoslavia to Northern Ireland to Sri Lanka, the role of religion has been to tear down society!

Nope.

If it was then society would flourish absent religion.....yet the opposite is true. You can't have a civilized society or any society without religion.

I keep pointing that out to you, and you keep ignoring it, but facts don't go away because your fee fees.

 

[Hel_Books]

More "BUTT STUFF I DON'T LIKE!!" from another guy to deflect from the fact that every civilization that got beyond the gang/tribe did so with religion.

I'm going to make a guess that even back in the "gang/tribe" times that you speak of there was plenty of superstition (Troglodyte don't understand that lightning or volcano, gotta personify it as some kind of deity!) just the way people have lucky charms or horoscopes.

You haven't presented any evidence at all that this religion stuff helped rather than hindered the march of civilisation.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Role? From Yugoslavia to Northern Ireland to Sri Lanka, the role of religion has been to tear down society!

Nope.

If it was then society would flourish absent religion.....yet the opposite is true. You can't have a civilized society or any society without religion.

I keep pointing that out to you, and you keep ignoring it, but facts don't go away because your fee fees.

Every civilisation has cats. Every civilisation has crime. Every civilisation has homosexuality.

Just because people have it, doesn't mean it's what civilisation is built on!

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
I'll give you an example from your "founding fathers," mmkay? Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) knew about the War of the Spanish Succession (Queen Anne's war to you folks) because it took place in his lifetime. In the war, Louis XIV supported James Stuart (Catholic) against William (Protestant).

They knew about the poison religion unleashes. I think it's you who doesn't understand the first amendment!

Random bullshit doesn't make the Declaration of Independence go away or change the structure of the Constitution

1A was to keep the government off religion, notices how our Bill of Rights is a list of shit the government CAN'T do?? That's not a mistake. 1A restricts the government, not religion or religious people. That's why we have so many religious leaders in offices pushing their various religious values.

Why would the framers of your Constitution have been so worried about government interference with religion? Perhaps because they feared that a majority faith would use government power, by establishing an official religion, to oppress and suppress a minority faith? Yes, they well understood the poison that flows from religious belief.

 

[Hel_Books]

Can you point out how it's actually a poison for civilization instead of a critical component??

God is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything

 

[Chernosoth]

We can pencil Hel in for a conversion to the most fervently batshit religion available. His keyboard pounding atheist progressive religion, Christianity without the god bits, is showing deep cracks.

 

[Chadrone]

Why would the framers of your Constitution have been so worried about government interference with religion?

Because that's what the British government had been doing.

Perhaps because they feared that a majority faith would use government power, by establishing an official religion, to oppress and suppress a minority faith?

Nope, because we can do that today if we want.

38 states and 2/3 of congress can pretty much do whatever they want so long as they are on the same page.

Yes, they well understood the poison that flows from religious belief.

No, they understood that it had to be protected from the state. That's why they did so.

You're just trying to make shit up to suit your narrative.

 

[Rightguide]

Hey @HisArpy how is it you have been here nearly ten years, have over 45k posts and only ~5500 likes? Its almost like...lets see...

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practically no one likes anything you say?

Maybe he doesn’t care. Who even keeps score? Political forums, especially ideological ones, are not approval-seeking environments. They are conflict arenas. In this space, “likes” don’t signal success, and persuasion is rare. Provocation, disruption, and endurance matter more.

Our field of battle is not marked by blood but by syntax. Arguments clash like bronze on bronze, each sentence a spear hurled with intent. Truth is dragged behind the lines, wounded but breathing, while rhetoric circles like cavalry, probing for a break in the formation. So pull your panties up and don your helmet. Let’s get it on.

 

[Rightguide]

You are an idiot.

You voted for an autopen as well.

 

[Hel_Books]

We can pencil Hel in for a conversion to the most fervently batshit religion available. His keyboard pounding atheist progressive religion, Christianity without the god bits, is showing deep cracks.

Without the "god bits" Christianity is just rules for stoning homosexuals, not eating pork and keeping slaves, etc.

I've posted a lot of material here about the evils of religion. You've done some vague whining about "social cohesion" as if it's "cohesive" to have people at each other's throats over their respective deities!

But keep "pounding" your keyboard (or whatever it is you like to pound) and maybe something "cohesive" will come out!

(By the way, why do you assume I'm male?)

 

[Chadrone]

Without the "god bits" Christianity is just rules for stoning homosexuals, not eating pork and keeping slaves, etc.

I've posted a lot of material here about the evils of religion. You've done some vague whining about "social cohesion" as if it's "cohesive" to have people at each other's throats over their respective deities!

But keep "pounding" your keyboard (or whatever it is you like to pound) and maybe something "cohesive" will come out!

(By the way, why do you assume I'm male?)

Oh you're a woman?? .....the obstenant objection to reality because your FEE FEES now makes perfect sense.

I'll go spend time on something not a totally irrational and neurotic ball of fee fees now, have a good one!!

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Why would the framers of your Constitution have been so worried about government interference with religion?

Because that's what the British government had been doing.

Silly boy. Roger Williams was ordered banished from the Massachusetts Bay colony in 1635 by you Colonials! You were doing it to yourselves. The King didn't care if Maryland was Catholic or Pennsylvania was Quaker!

 

[Hel_Books]

Oh you're a woman?? .....the obstenant objection to reality because your FEE FEES now makes perfect sense.

Did you get your misogyny from your religion or did you think it up yourself?

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Perhaps because they feared that a majority faith would use government power, by establishing an official religion, to oppress and suppress a minority faith?

Nope, because we can do that today if we want.

38 states and 2/3 of congress can pretty much do whatever they want so long as they are on the same page.

True, the majority can often oppress the minority. That was the genius of your Constitution, the checks and balances, the statements of principles.

Or are you in favour of establishing Christianity as the official religion of your country?

 

[Chadrone]

Silly boy.

Did you get your misandry from your atheism or did you think it up yourself??

Roger Williams was ordered banished from the Massachusetts Bay colony in 1635 by you Colonials! You were doing it to yourselves. The King didn't care if Maryland was Catholic or Pennsylvania was Quaker!

Irrelivant bullshit.

Deflecting from the facts you just got face fucked with.

Did you get your misogyny from your religion or did you think it up yourself?

I don't hate women.

I love how recognizing the "NEUROTIC FEE FEES OVER FACTS!!!" behavior being a predminantly female pattern makes you think I do though.

Is holding women accountable for their behavior also misogginiez?? No wonder you hate religion so much, that shit is like kyptonite for degnerate whores and commies alike.

 

[Rightguide]

Without the "god bits" Christianity is just rules for stoning homosexuals, not eating pork and keeping slaves, etc.

I've posted a lot of material here about the evils of religion. You've done some vague whining about "social cohesion" as if it's "cohesive" to have people at each other's throats over their respective deities!

But keep "pounding" your keyboard (or whatever it is you like to pound) and maybe something "cohesive" will come out!

(By the way, why do you assume I'm male?)

You’re right that without the core beliefs, Christianity, or any religion, would just be a set of outdated rules, many of which are rightly objectionable today. But dismissing religion solely as a list of archaic laws misses what billions have found: a framework for meaning, community, and yes, cohesion, even if imperfect.

The Ten Commandments stand as one of the most enduring moral codes in human history. Beyond their religious significance, they represent foundational principles, like prohibitions against murder, theft, and bearing false witness, that have deeply influenced legal systems and ethical norms across cultures. Whether viewed through a theological lens or as a cornerstone of social order, their impact on shaping concepts of right and wrong is undeniable.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Roger Williams was ordered banished from the Massachusetts Bay colony in 1635 by you Colonials! You were doing it to yourselves. The King didn't care if Maryland was Catholic or Pennsylvania was Quaker!

Irrelivant bullshit.

Deflecting from the facts you just got face fucked with.

Hey, you said the British government was messing with the Colonies' religion and that was why they felt the need for a first amendment. I pointed out that they felt the need for a first amendment because they saw what the colonists were doing to each other. That's a fact that you got . . . that you didn't know.

 

[Chadrone]

Whether viewed through a theological lens or as a cornerstone of social order, their impact on shaping concepts of right and wrong is undeniable.

BUTT DUH WAHMENZ GOT TOLD WHUT TO DEW AND SHAMED FOR THEIR BAD BEHAIVORZ!!! REEEEE!!! DAS BAD KAREN NO LIKEY REEEEE!!!

 

[Chadrone]

I pointed out that they felt the need for a first amendment because they saw what the colonists were doing to each other. That's a fact that you got . . . that you didn't know.

That's ahistorical bullshit you pulled out of your ass.

 

[LilKitKat]

Maybe he doesn’t care. Who even keeps score? Political forums, especially ideological ones, are not approval-seeking environments. They are conflict arenas. In this space, “likes” don’t signal success, and persuasion is rare. Provocation, disruption, and endurance matter more.

Our field of battle is not marked by blood but by syntax. Arguments clash like bronze on bronze, each sentence a spear hurled with intent. Truth is dragged behind the lines, wounded but breathing, while rhetoric circles like cavalry, probing for a break in the formation. So pull your panties up and don your helmet. Let’s get it on.

I am sure he doesnt care. I dont care. Most people dont care. But it was low-hanging fruit and quite amusing...and also accurate.

 

[Rightguide]

I am sure he doesnt care. I dont care. Most people dont care. But it was low-hanging fruit and quite amusing...and also accurate.

I didn't question the accuracy, only its value.