How Did It All Start

[artful]

1-She had a desire

2-She advertised that desire

3-A close friend of mine recommended her to me

4-She sought me out online

5-A dialogue between her and I took place publicly

6-We exchanged PM'S

7-I took her on,...to train as a slave online

8-In a short time, I realised R/W possibilities

9-We began serious dialogues

10-We encountered disagreements

11-I broke off communications for short periods of
time to give her time to THINK.(matter of hours)

12-Many times we went to the edge of separation

13-More than once she went to Emergency Room
(high blood pressure)

14-FINALLY,...she did what she truly wanted to do
in the first place,...she "submitted".

15-We met in the R/W

16-She is what I wanted as a slave, and I am what she wanted as a Master.

17-We are now planning for her to re-locate from Michigan to Arkansas.

(a final note)-Soon,...Artful's dream will be online, and all may direct reasonable questions to her. She has my permission to speak freely online
publicly at Lit, and specifically in the BDSM Forum. She reports any and all PM'S to me. Though she will not cyber-sex, phone sex, etc., she may participate in whatever Public Sexual Role Play threads she wishes. Test her if you must,...but please be respectful.

 

[MissTaken]

That is wonderful, artful.

I hope this thread generates discussion about the transition for meeting someone on line to making it real time.

As many of us have experiences, trying to do so, I would welcome any pointers!

*So far, I have failed miserably, either in my choice or the transition. I dont' want to fail again.

 

[MotorCitySam]

Artful, my congratulations to you and yours.

 

[Lancecastor]

A Question for Art & Sam....

...which of course, may be treated as rhetorical.

I find myself wondering how you feel as Men who have seen both heartspring and heartaches here amongst Members of this Community, in the decision to "go public" here...to conduct your relationships here in this somewhat unusual corner of the Internet?

It seems to me that the gravity of such a decision is very nearly equal, if not the same, as a public declaration such as is symbolized by a wedding.

Respectfully;

Lance

 

[SexyChele]

Re: A Question for Art & Sam....

...which of course, may be treated as rhetorical.

I find myself wondering how you feel as Men who have seen both heartspring and heartaches here amongst Members of this Community, in the decision to "go public" here...to conduct your relationships here in this somewhat unusual corner of the Internet?

It seems to me that the gravity of such a decision is very nearly equal, if not the same, as a public declaration such as is symbolized by a wedding.

Respectfully;

Lance

With all due respect, I have to admit that Lance asked a question that I was sort of curious about myself. Though I know Sam and Caroline are currently engaged (congrats to both!), I don't kow if I would equate an announcement here as equivalent to marriage. But perhaps I'm not seeing it the way Lance is. Interesting to hear the answers, though.

And by the way - I wish you both well in your relationships, and hope for only the best and happiest.

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: A Question for Art & Sam....an aside

As an aside for SC:

My thinking is, SexyChele, that it takes a lot of serious thinking to declare such intimacy in writing as two in a small close-knit community....that assumes the 4 feel connected in more than a passing way to the Forum, and I believe from reading their posts that they do.

Cheers;
LC

 

[artful]

Lance and Chele

That is wonderful, artful.

I hope this thread generates discussion about the transition for meeting someone on line to making it real time.

As many of us have experiences, trying to do so, I would welcome any pointers!

*So far, I have failed miserably, either in my choice or the transition. I dont' want to fail again.

I wish I could express my thoughts, and clarify them as well as Lance and Chele do. Fortunately, I have a Friend MissT who helps me from time to time.

The reason for posting this thread is much as MissT had stated. I hope this thread is posted to by many who have had similar experiences, (or wish to).

Each relationship depends on truth and communication. How they develope into MEANINGFUL relationships,(I think),is important to us all. I have NEVER, intentionally misrepresented myself to any of my subs.

I am an exacting person, and I have many rigid requirements to even CONSIDER taking on a person to train as a sub/slave online. In the REAL world, I am somewhat more lenient.

If a woman can get past the INITIAL shock of submitting to my AUTHORITY, the rest of it is easy.

I have ended relationships with trainee/subs online, and trainee/subs online, have ended the relationships of their own accord.

Not one of them will ever say I have been ANYTHING other than honest, (Some still post here at Lit), and yes,...they do read my posts.

I do hope others will contribute their online experiences, and give some of the instances where they encountered difficulties.

There are as many women who try to take advantage of men online, as there are men who try to take advantage of women.

My subs have ALL, received threatening or coercive PM'S and/or e-mails from men and women alike.

Some saying simply, "Be careful,...we know Art and you don't." "He will abuse you, use you, humiliate you,...then turn you loose."

Some of them I am sure, were well intentioned,... but none-the-less, UNTRUE. Simply said, I have never engaged in that practice.

My intent on posting is to learn, to give my honest opinions, and where I think it's appropriate,...inject a little humor.

Sometimes I fail and post otherwise,...but folks, my intentions are HONORABLE.

MissT thank you for your post in helping me to clarify my intentions for this thread.

P.S.~Yes,...I truly love Dream, I will do all that
I can to make her happy. No,...I will not do whatever it is that she may want me to do.

 

[Mr. Bootie]

*smiling happily *

That is wonderful, artful.

I hope this thread generates discussion about the transition for meeting someone on line to making it real time.

As many of us have experiences, trying to do so, I would welcome any pointers!

*So far, I have failed miserably, either in my choice or the transition. I dont' want to fail again.

Succes is waiting for you on the other side of the country. *wink*

( Darn, I did say on the other side of the country didn't I ? Good Luck in your search Miss T. Honestly, I really don't see why you are having so much trouble Hon'. You are one lovely lady that any man would consider extremely blessed to have. )


(((BIG HUGS))) **Soft, Gentle, 's **



kgboot
aka "Mr. Bootie"

 

[MissTaken]

A difficult question then?

While I am in your good graces, arful, a difficult question?

I remember earlier on, shortly after the hoorah here, that Dream was having some difficulty. She posted a thread and if I were any good at searches I would read it again, but why bring up the negative.

I remember sending her a pm telling her to do what she feels comfortable with.

Now, how did you move beyond that?

I believe from the sound of things that I may have been in a comparable position at one point.

Feel free to decline to answer, I would certainly understand.

Or if she wishes to answer, that would be equally as helpful.

 

[artful]

Re: A difficult question then?

While I am in your good graces, arful, a difficult question?

I remember earlier on, shortly after the hoorah here, that Dream was having some difficulty. She posted a thread and if I were any good at searches I would read it again, but why bring up the negative.

I remember sending her a pm telling her to do what she feels comfortable with.

Now, how did you move beyond that?

I believe from the sound of things that I may have been in a comparable position at one point.

Feel free to decline to answer, I would certainly understand.

Or if she wishes to answer, that would be equally as helpful.

You have NEVER been out of "Art's good graces".

X 2

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Art, that was a touching post about you and dream. You both have my congrats and best of luck wishes.


dixi

 

[Hot4Heels]

OK I may be a switch but I dont bend that way. However it is nice to see Artfull's posts they are always so DOMINATING.

I wish you al the luck. and your sub as well in the upcomming RELATIONSHIP.

 

[Guest]

 

[MissTaken]

Question

Is her family an issue with the relocation?

Do you have their support?

How has she explained it to them?



Oops! Three questions.

 

[MotorCitySam]

Re: A Question for Art & Sam....

...which of course, may be treated as rhetorical.

I find myself wondering how you feel as Men who have seen both heartspring and heartaches here amongst Members of this Community, in the decision to "go public" here...to conduct your relationships here in this somewhat unusual corner of the Internet?

It seems to me that the gravity of such a decision is very nearly equal, if not the same, as a public declaration such as is symbolized by a wedding.

Respectfully;

Lance

Lancecastor,
I an not entirely sure I understand what you are asking , but I will try my best to answer.
I do not feel Caroline and I conduct our relationship here, but just comment upon it in order to gain the advice of those with greater or differing knowledge and experience. And of course, we recieve the blessing of friendship as well.
There is a difference between our relationship and that of Artful and his Dream, in that we were a couple before we came here.
I feel enormous respect for them because I can imagine how difficult it must be to maintain their bond over such distance.
But we are together often, obviously, and in a month's time will be together daily, from now on. So I feel that although this forum is an important part of out lives, it is but a part and so I have no qualms about what we share here.
I am not sure this answers you, but thank you for your question.

 

[artful]

Re: Question

Is her family an issue with the relocation?

Do you have their support?
How has she explained it to them?
Oops! Three questions.

I need to defer these questions to Dream,...when she comes back online. (maybe as soon as tomorrow)
Why? Because being a mother of 4 children, the youngest being 10,...she is better qualified to answer those questions in depth.

 

[~Dream~]

Re: Question

Is her family an issue with the relocation?

Do you have their support?

How has she explained it to them?



Oops! Three questions.

Question 1-my family knows it is MY wish to move and I shall asap,however my youngest is soon to start 5th grade and we want the move to be as comfortable for HIM AS POSSIBLE...I MAY CHOOSE TO BRING HIM ON DOWN FOR A SORT OF MINI-VISIT 1ST I THINK ..
Question 2-Yes my children know Master truly loves me and they support me ,it's not necessary for them to support Him at this time but my oldest son ,highly respects Him..
QUESTION 3-WHAT IS THERE REALLY TO EXPLAIN/ I am in love with a man ,I WISH TO LIVE WITH HIM,He makes me happier than I HAVE EVER BEEN.. MY LIFESTYLE IS MY business as an adult,that's how I CHOOSE TO KEEP IT.. MY children have had way more than their fair share of control over my life already ,believe YOU ME LOL
TIME FOR DREAM to Really get to be happy instead of always worrying about others .. my other kids are 24,23,18 and well old enuf to carry on..

 

[~Dream~]

Re: Re: A Question for Art & Sam....

With all due respect, I have to admit that Lance asked a question that I was sort of curious about myself. Though I know Sam and Caroline are currently engaged (congrats to both!), I don't kow if I would equate an announcement here as equivalent to marriage. But perhaps I'm not seeing it the way Lance is. Interesting to hear the answers, though.

And by the way - I wish you both well in your relationships, and hope for only the best and happiest.

I HAVE TO SAY THANKS ,I think for the good wishes 1st of all and then I MUST CONFESS THAT I FEEL MY COMMITTMENT TO ARTFUL IS EVERY BIT AS STRONG AS WHAT A WIFE would be to her husband,JMHO..LOL BUT I AM 100% committed to my Master and i do dearly love him with ALL MY HEART AND i think since our relationship HAS gotten stronger that we will both be able to help out and encourage people who are having any doubts by letting them hear of our experiences and turmoils.... and offer words of encouragement for others