Homosexual Republicans

[sexy-girl]

this kinda comes from a discussion i had on the GB


do homosexual republicans exist do we have any here ?

if so why are you a republican considiering they don't seem the most friendly when it comes to gay rights

is it because politically being gay isn't important to you ?

has bush's efforts to make gay marriage illegal in the constitution changed how you would vote ?


just curious

 

[Queersetti]

The most prominent group of gay Republicans is the Log Cabin Republicans.

Here's a link to their website:http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/home.html

 

[sexy-girl]

The most prominent group of gay Republicans is the Log Cabin Republicans.

Here's a link to their website:http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/home.html

thanks its interesting to read their views on the gay marriage they blame the radical right

but as i understand banning gay marriage comes from the core of the current republican leadership


i'll read the site some more

 

[MzChrista]

Its about priorities. A person can be gay and still think the GOP is better on the economy or foreign affairs or issues like that. Only nowdays the right wing makes it pretty hard for gays to not put gay issues front and center.

 

[John Doe]

The idea of a homosexual Republican doesn't sound as oxymoronic as say a homosexual Catholic, but then anything's possible.

Anyway, sexy-girl, would you please link us to the GB discussion to which you're refering?

 

[Cigan]

Actually homosexual republicans and homosexual catholics don't seem all that oxymoronic to me. A lot of republican leaders have no problem with homosexuals, it's just many of them are forced into silence by their party. Also many of the most gay friendly Christians I have ever known have been catholic. Jesus never said a bad word about Catholics. All that junk's in the old testament, and some of it was translated improperly anyway. Not every Christian sucks up the dogma over the actual teachings.

 

[John Doe]

Actually homosexual republicans and homosexual catholics don't seem all that oxymoronic to me. A lot of republican leaders have no problem with homosexuals, it's just many of them are forced into silence by their party. Also many of the most gay friendly Christians I have ever known have been catholic. Jesus never said a bad word about Catholics. All that junk's in the old testament, and some of it was translated improperly anyway. Not every Christian sucks up the dogma over the actual teachings.

Uh, I think you meant Jesus never said a bad word about gays? In any case, the reason it seems contradictory to me is homosexuality is considered a sin in maintsream Catholicism.

 

[Queersetti]

Uh, I think you meant Jesus never said a bad word about gays? In any case, the reason it seems contradictory to me is homosexuality is considred a sin in maintsream Catholicism.

There are a great many people, particularly in Western Europe and North America, who regard themselves as good, practicing Catholics while rejecting the church's stance on issues like homosexuality, abortion, etc.

I have to look no further than my own mother, who is able to completely reconcile defining herself both as a Marxist and a Roman Catholic (not that rare a phenomenon in Italy or Spain). She maintains a loyalty to the church while standing in opposition to many of it's positions on social issues.

 

[John Doe]

There are a great many people, particularly in Western Europe and North America, who regard themselves as good, practicing Catholics while rejecting the church's stance on issues like homosexuality, abortion, etc.

I have to look no further than my own mother, who is able to completely reconcile defining herself both as a Marxist and a Roman Catholic (not that rare a phenomenon in Italy or Spain). She maintains a loyalty to the church while standing in opposition to many of it's positions on social issues.

But the Pope and the Catholic Church still offically oppose homosexuality.

 

[MaddyBaby]

Interesting subject here....

I have met a fellow Lesbian in my town who is a Republican. She really couldn't explain it herself. A confusing conversation, that one was. LOL

As for the Catholics... they always have gay friendly stands set up at Pridefest asking the homosexuals to come back to church. The catholic churches around here are accepting, for the most part. There are still some that aren't, though.

can't win'em all. *shrugs*

 

[DustyWolfe]

Gay republicans are more common than you might think. Most of the gay people I know are republican.

 

[Queersetti]

But the Pope and the Catholic Church still offically oppose homosexuality.

They also officially oppose divorce, but many Catholics get divorced. They oppose abortion, but many Catholics get abortions.

Most members of the Roman Catholic Church, at least in the West, were raised in the church, they did not choose it after weighing other options. I think that because of that, many people feel that they remain loyal to the Church while dissenting from the official doctrine on social issues. There is a strong feeling that once you are born Catholic, you are always a Catholic, no matter how your views may change to differ from the Church's. Popes, after all, come and go, and their social and political views sometimes go with them. The Church as an institution has been around for a long, long time, and continues to hold the loyalty of many people who believe it is on the wrong track.

 

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[DustyWolfe]

I'm guessing that they are of the fiscally conservative variety...the kind that like the keep more of their hard earned $$$ rather than give it away to the Government

Actually, believe it or not.... Most of these people are not very well off. People that struggle financially, barely make it from paycheck to paycheck. Many of them are Christians... Members of a gay church.

 

[John Doe]

They also officially oppose divorce, but many Catholics get divorced. They oppose abortion, but many Catholics get abortions.

I know about those two things too.

You don't have to keep explaining it to me, I get it. I got it before I ever brought it up, but I still think it's contradictory. If you disagree with the main tenets of a religion (or any organization) you either should not be in it or you should work to influence the leadership. All gay/divorced/Pro-choice Catholics I know or know of have done neither.

 

[Queersetti]

I know about those two things too.

You don't have to keep explaining it to me, I get it. I got it before I ever brought it up, but I still think it's contradictory. If you disagree with the main tenets of a religion (or any organization) you either should not be in it or you should work to influence the leadership. All gay/divorced/Pro-choice Catholics I know or know of have done neither.

Our experiences differ. I know a great many Catholics who are active in trying to change the Church's policies and culture.

 

[John Doe]

Our experiences differ. I know a great many Catholics who are active in trying to change the Church's policies and culture.

Well, good luck to them and I mean that in the most unsarcastic way possible...seriously. What? Why are you looking at me like that? WHAT??? STOP LOOKING AT ME!!!

 

[69forever]

RE: Homosexual Republicans...

This was a while ago, but the last polls and statistics that I read placed one out of ten persons as being gay/lesbian. Take that with a grain of salt for percentage points one way or the other.

That means that across the board of politics, religion and social standing, etc. 10% of the population is Queer.

It is hard to imagine any group that does not have gay/lesbian members.

Reminds me of that film, "The Presidents". Never know who you'll find in drag or costume at a Gay Pride celebration!

Point being...the "silent majority" of gays/lesbians have the power to vote on issues affecting them, they rarely take part openly in "The community" for fear of repercussions.

 

[wishbone96]

Governor "goodhair" Perry of Texas has been rumored to have
a gay lover -someone who works in his Cabinet. The story goes that the two were caught by his wife in his spa "en flagrente". This however cannot be substantiated but one thing's certain his wife has left and filed for divource recently with one of the meanest divource lawyers in Austin. Go figure.

 

[John Doe]

Re: RE: Homosexual Republicans...

...Reminds me of that film, "The Presidents". Never know who you'll find in drag or costume at a Gay Pride celebration!...

Are you refering to "My Fellow Americans" starring Jack Lemon and...that other guy? Or are you refering to another film?

 

[69forever]

Re: Re: RE: Homosexual Republicans...

Are you refering to "My Fellow Americans" starring Jack Lemon and...that other guy? Or are you refering to another film?

Ahhh, yep. James Garner. I stand corrected. Thanks. Great movie!

 

[MzChrista]

Governor "goodhair" Perry of Texas has been rumored to have
a gay lover -someone who works in his Cabinet. The story goes that the two were caught by his wife in his spa "en flagrente". This however cannot be substantiated but one thing's certain his wife has left and filed for divource recently with one of the meanest divource lawyers in Austin. Go figure.

That rumor has been going around for awhile. I dont know if theres anything to it.

 

[wishbone96]

Mz Christa, will you spank me now?

 

[apexpark]

I'm guessing that they are of the fiscally conservative variety...the kind that like the keep more of their hard earned $$$ rather than give it away to the Government

a friend of mine is bisexual and a rather strong republican, basically for the financial benefits for the rich. [being a liberal] we come across this argument at least once every week; i argue that poor people would be starving on the streets if there was an absolute favor of republican beliefs but she believes in social darwinism and all that crap. then comes attack on iraq and she argues they should be annihilated because they are brainwashed wastes of life with motives to destroy.
i guess its because her parents came from russia, aways from communism and jewish persecussion, with pretty much nothing and worked their asses off into a mansion.