Hip Hop

[smoothg103rd]

Some of you people don't like it. Because you don't understand it. You can't relate, you have no clue what they're talking about. Too much slang, too much metaphors,too much punchlines. I'm high, so listening to the artist I normally listen to, I'm feeling every lyric. I can understand why you don't listen to itbut you don't understand it. People like you just like rap for the beats,something you can dance to. But it's more to rap than twerking, you got to understand the lyrics.

 

[Messier82]

Actually, some people do like some of it, I grew up in the days of Grandmaster Flash and loved The Message, White Lines etc. I was also quite keen on Gil Scott Heron who practically invented rap according to some sources. In recent years I've liked a lot of Michael Franti's output TV the drug of the nation is an absolute classic, as is Oh My God.

But much of what hear these days is, quite frankly, shite: Niggaz, bitches, bling, blah blah blah... Rap and hip hop is at its best when it's being political.

I quite like the less offensive language of some rap, but as a white guy I would just sound like a knob if I said "Yo! Yo! Yo! shorty, watz da 411 mofo? Yo dope!"

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Hip hop. like rock and roll before it purposely uses language that excludes what it considers unhip outsiders.



It's a 'code.'

They have a lot of it on "So You Think You Can Dance." Some of it is good and some of it I cannot relate to, but the same goes for the rock and roll that I grew up with and the country that I now listen to.

 

[Messier82]

Yo, blood. I feel ya

Hey look at me! Ahm doooown wi ma homies.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The black people here do not hip hop.


They do either country or gospel...


Now the white kids that would have gone Goth in the 90s, they hip hop. They might be the last nail in the coffin, so to speak. Then again, some years back when I heard some European yodeling rap, I thought that was surely the beginning of the end too.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Actually, some people do like some of it, I grew up in the days of Grandmaster Flash and loved The Message, White Lines etc. I was also quite keen on Gil Scott Heron who practically invented rap according to some sources. In recent years I've liked a lot of Michael Franti's output TV the drug of the nation is an absolute classic, as is Oh My God.

But much of what hear these days is, quite frankly, shite: Niggaz, bitches, bling, blah blah blah... Rap and hip hop is at its best when it's being political.

I quite like the less offensive language of some rap, but as a white guy I would just sound like a knob if I said "Yo! Yo! Yo! shorty, watz da 411 mofo? Yo dope!"

You didn't name anybody I know. Besides grandmaster flash (aye Zumi did I do it right?). Some of this new school rap is garbage as shit. But the underated rap I listen to, you people wouldn't understand because you can't relate.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Hip hop. like rock and roll before it purposely uses language that excludes what it considers unhip outsiders.



It's a 'code.'

They have a lot of it on "So You Think You Can Dance." Some of it is good and some of it I cannot relate to, but the same goes for the rock and roll that I grew up with and the country that I now listen to.

Real hip hop has nothing to do with that so you think you can dance shit. That's that commercial shit.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Whatever makes a living...

 

[smoothg103rd]

Real talk 4est, I'm talking about that rap that makes you think he is talking about a woman but he is really talking about drugs. That rap that makes you think he is talking about someone but he is really talking about a gun.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Yeah.





I refer to that as crap. Not a big fan of violence, misogyny and having the word nigger being blared through the ear buds so loudly that everyone else knows you're "gansta..."

 

[Everyday_Man]

Like in all genres, there is more shit than there is greatness and no matter what the lyrics are trying to say, if it sounds like shit, it sounds like shit.

Poor smoothie, always likes to seclude people to feel special. Is is Sunday yet? ... Soon.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Yeah.





I refer to that as crap. Not a big fan of violence, misogyny and having the word nigger being blared through the ear buds so loudly that everyone else knows you're "gansta..."

It ain't the word "nigger" it's the word nigga. Saying "nigga" doesn't prove you're a gangsta, we all say it. And you're a prime example of what I mean when I say 'can't relate.

 

[Messier82]

It's been said that rap actually represses Black culture by over focussing on the negatives; drugs, guns etc. Confirming the sterotype oft held by the ruling (white) elite which can be used to keep non-whites in a subservient position in society.

The Jazz guys often did drugs and may have had guns sometimes, but they didn't define their selves, their music or their culture by these things.

I'm pretty sure if I was black I would resent the implications from rap music that my interests in life were so narrowly defined.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Like in all genres, there is more shit than there is greatness and no matter what the lyrics are trying to say, if it sounds like shit, it sounds like shit.

Poor smoothie, always likes to seclude people to feel special. Is is Sunday yet? ... Soon.

Everyday_Man, fuck you,eat a dick, hopefully your mother get pushed off a cliff, if the bitch ain't dead yet.

 

[Everyday_Man]

Everyday_Man, fuck you,eat a dick, hopefully your mother get pushed off a cliff, if the bitch ain't dead yet.

I'm going to miss your well thought out statements smoothie. They always make me think . . .

 

[phrodeau]

The Beat poets of the 1950's had the same structure - reciting poetry over a jazz beat - and covered the same topics - sex, violence, drugs and politics. They also used language that was deliberately exclusive.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It ain't the word "nigger" it's the word nigga. Saying "nigga" doesn't prove you're a gangsta, we all say it. And you're a prime example of what I mean when I say 'can't relate.

If I could relate, then the aficionados would quickly migrate to something even more extreme in order to preclude any possibility of me "relating."

 

[smoothg103rd]

It's been said that rap actually represses Black culture by over focussing on the negatives; drugs, guns etc. Confirming the sterotype oft held by the ruling (white) elite which can be used to keep non-whites in a subservient position in society.

The Jazz guys often did drugs and may have had guns sometimes, but they didn't define their selves, their music or their culture by these things.

I'm pretty sure if I was black I would resent the implications from rap music that my interests in life were so narrowly defined.

You wouldn't. Because if you was black, you would be able to relate to the music in a way,and not because you're trying to seem gangsta. When you come across some lyrics that hit your life on the nose,you feel it more. You can't relate, so I wouldn't expect you to be a fan.

 

[smoothg103rd]

If I could relate, then the aficionados would quickly migrate to something even more extreme in order to preclude any possibility of me "relating."

Can you use dumb people words? I'm too cooking to Google all that shit.

 

[smoothg103rd]

The Beat poets of the 1950's had the same structure - reciting poetry over a jazz beat - and covered the same topics - sex, violence, drugs and politics. They also used language that was deliberately exclusive.

Huh??

 

[smoothg103rd]

I'm going to miss your well thought out statements smoothie. They always make me think . . .

Eat a aids dick?

 

[Everyday_Man]

Eat a aids dick?

Is that an original line or are you 'sampling' that?

 

[Messier82]

And you're a prime example of what I mean when I say 'can't relate.

I once had a very whiny girlfriend who was constantly saying "You don't understand me" "You can't relate to me" without ever once trying to define or explain what she meant.

So, articulate. Relate your angst in words people can understand in the wider world.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Is that an original line or are you 'sampling' that?

Idk. But I'm sampling your mother, but the bitch aint worth it. Imma give her back.

 

[Lancecastor]

Yo...a white Jew made Hip Hop and Rap popular.

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