Hillary, Progressive or....?

[mikey2much]

what does not kill her, makes her stronger

They, the right wings of both parties, have been trying to kill her since 92 and yet here she is ready to take white house. You're right, she is one tough cookie. I think Trump might find himself in over his head.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

They, the right wings of both parties, have been trying to kill her since 92 and yet here she is ready to take white house. You're right, she is one tough cookie. I think Trump might find himself in over his head.

Huh? She is the right wing of her party.

I think that the best hope for the nation is that she and Trump both get indicted before this travesty goes any further.

 

[lovecraft68]

They, the right wings of both parties, have been trying to kill her since 92 and yet here she is ready to take white house. You're right, she is one tough cookie. I think Trump might find himself in over his head.

Its easy to be tough when you're associated-I mean married to-a very popular ex president and and powerful democrat and even easier to be tough when the media is owned by your party and afraid to speak out against you.

Between Benghazi and the e-mail debacle she would have no right even being out of jail in a country that actually gave a shit about anything but what's trendy(in this case a female President)

She's as dirty as Trump, probably worse, yet she's seen as some sort of messiah, man this country is in bad shape.

 

[sr71plt]

I really don't care whether Hillary is progressive, conservative, somewhat dishonest or anything else. I reckon competence deserves a run and she is the only one up to it.

Plus I want her to play Trump really really dirty, get as deep in the gutter as she possibly can, she's good at the drag'em out, give 'em a kicking shit fight. None of the GOP candidates in the primaries was up for it.

Sure Trump can do the same to her but that's all old news. Within a month or so one of Trumps dodgy deals or other acts of gratuitous scumbaggery will be released to the press every few days. Come November he'll be struggling under the biggest pile of political excrement you have ever seen. Voters won't like it , but they will take note.

Even if you hate the woman's guts, she's as tough as they come.

Agree. By the way, Trump doesn't just struggle under a pile of political excrement in November. The fraud trial on Trump University starts 28 November.

 

[sr71plt]

Huh? She is the right wing of her party.

I think that the best hope for the nation is that she and Trump both get indicted before this travesty goes any further.

As noted above, Trump is the first one to that goalpost (although not before the election). The fraud trial for Trump University starts 28 November. I don't see that Hillary has a trail date for anything yet.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

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[DanielBoone]

i think progressive

Especially on social issues.
Especially in terms of who she'll appoint to the supreme court.
is she perfect? no. but she's good enough for me.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary Clinton is a Threat to Progressivism

An opinion I can agree with. My biggest complaint about Hillary is I can think of no actual 'accomplishment' attributed to her.

Sure she has been on the stump continuously for years, but she never held an actual office until she carpetbagged her way in to a New York Senate seat. Where she passed no legislation of significance.

As Sec State she got us involved in two stupid militarily adventures, with no end game plan.

Other than that, what good has she done, other than being a "Role Model" for women?

What makes Hillary so much more dangerous to democracy and the progressive movement in general –far more than any Republican candidate– is that some people, people who still consider themselves Democrats, will begin to accept things that they simply would not otherwise accept from any Republican.

They will accept the fact that she sends us to fight in unjustified wars. They will accept the fact that she doesn’t go after the financial institutions and lobbyists that are destroying the middle class. They will accept horrible trade agreements that profit the rich and take away millions of jobs. They will accept it, and they will rationalize it. They will argue ferociously about it and say things like “yeah but republicans did this too! Republicans did it even worse!!” And all the while, they will forget that two wrongs have never made a right.

 

[JackLuis]

Let’s Call Establishment Dems What They Are: REPUBLICANS

The Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia is going to be sponsored by the worst of the worst. Healthcare lobbyists, proponents of fracking, and even Comcast will be hosting the event, as DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has decided to lift the convention’s ban on lobbyists. America’s Lawyer Mike Papantonio talks about the fall of the Democratic Party with Thom Hartmann.

As DWS and the DNC sell out to the Dark Lords, the Democratic Party becomes a shell like the Rethuglican Party. Soon instead of a Third Party we'll have five and nothing will get done for four years between elections.

So kinda like the status quo.

 

[JackLuis]

Fox’s Meghan McCain: ‘Hillary Clinton is truly evil… she’s Darth Vader’

“I wasn’t a Donald Trump supporter but this is the will of the American people,” McCain told Fox News host Neil Cavuto. “But I think Donald Trump has to step up and answer a lot of questions. And he has to start being a leader, and he has said he wants to unite this party. That means uniting people like me.”

“There’s so many things that I have a hard time defending about his rhetoric and his values,” she admitted.

“But you still prefer him over Hillary Clinton?” Cavuto wondered.

“I told you, a tuna sandwich over Hillary Clinton,” McCain quipped. “Because I think Hillary Clinton is truly evil, and she’s truly a liar and she’s been responsible in my opinion for getting people killed.”

“Come on,” Cavuto replied.

“She’s Darth Vader,” McCain insisted. “I can’t trust her in any way.”

SO in her opinion Trump is an asshole but Hillary is Darth Vader!

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary Clinton Outlines Economic Plans, Which Include Her Husband

Hilla-Bill in the White House again, who's on top now?

FORT MITCHELL, Ky. — Hillary Clinton already has an assignment for her husband, Bill Clinton, if they return to the White House next year. The former president, Mrs. Clinton told voters on Sunday, will be “in charge of revitalizing the economy.”

“Because, you know, he knows how to do it,” she said. “Especially in places like coal country and inner-cities and other parts of our country that have really been left out.”

Mrs. Clinton mentioned her idea for her husband while speaking at a rally outside a home in northern Kentucky. Earlier this month, she said she had told Mr. Clinton that he would need to “come out of retirement” to help put people back to work.

She alienated some voters when she said in March, “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.” She made the comment while talking about renewable energy, adding that coal miners should not be overlooked. But the sound bite has haunted her, and when she visited coal country in West Virginia this month, protesters chanted, “Go home!”

On Sunday, Mrs. Clinton emphasized her desire to help coal miners.

“We can’t and we must not walk away from them,” she said. “I feel such a sense of obligation.”

How much obligation will she feel after the election?

 

[JackLuis]

A case of Fuck-it-all.

Woman dies to avoid voting for Trump or Hillary — according to her obituary

An obituary published in The Richmond Times Dispatch on Tuesday states that “faced with the prospect of voting for either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, Mary Anne Noland of Richmond chose, instead, to pass into the eternal love of God on Sunday, May 15, 2016, at the age of 68.”

The obituary doesn’t say anything else about her political views and only notes that she was a “faithful child of God” who was “devoted her life to sharing the love she received from Christ with all whose lives she touched as a wife, mother, grandmother, daughter, sister, friend and nurse.”

That said, you don’t have to be religious to be unenthusiastic about the upcoming choice in this year’s presidential election. According to the latest polling averages posted at The Huffington Post’s Pollster, 55% of voters have an unfavorable opinion of Hillary Clinton while 58% of voters have an unfavorable opinion of Donald Trump. Whether the upcoming choice between Clinton and Trump is bad enough to die over, however, is a matter of subjective opinion.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

That's hilarious.

 

[sr71plt]

As an obituary that's amusing, yes, but it's not the first one saying that to appear in the Richmond Times Dispatch and when you take into account that the Richmond congressional district is held by the Tea Party crazy who unseated Eric Cantor for not being crazy enough, it gives you some perspective on how crazy this woman was likely to have been (and by extension many of those thinking the same way. I think if you can't make a choice between Hillary Clinton and Trump for president--or just about anyone and Trump--that's pretty much what you are--downright crazy).

 

[JackLuis]

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[AlwaysHungry]

This 12 seconds from her "60 Minutes" interview is as grotesque as anything I've seen from Trump.

 

[JackLuis]

What Clinton said in her paid speeches

Recalled one attendee: 'She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.'

Clinton, who received $225,000 for her appearance, praised the diversity of Goldman’s workforce and the prominent roles played by women at the blue-chip investment bank and the tech firms present at the event. She spent no time criticizing Goldman or Wall Street more broadly for its role in the 2008 financial crisis.

“It was pretty glowing about us,” one person who watched the event said. “It’s so far from what she sounds like as a candidate now. It was like a rah-rah speech. She sounded more like a Goldman Sachs managing director.”

At another speech to Goldman and its big asset management clients in New York in 2013, Clinton spoke about how it wasn’t just the banks that caused the financial crisis and that it was worth looking at the landmark 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform law to see what was working and what wasn’t.

Serial Pandering, for money as usual.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I would love to see the RNC scramble to find a new nominee as Trump is led away from the convention in handcuffs....hey, Secret Service, how is that investigation into the death threat against President Obama going?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Obama should make Trump a one-time only offer: a pardon for the Trump University mess and tax evasion, in exchange for dropping out of the race.

True, Hillary would have a slightly tougher time winning, but we wouldn't risk a constitutional crisis of the worst order even being possible thanks to an authoritarian opportunist as the nominee of a major party.

 

[JackLuis]

Why Hillary Clinton's 90s nostalgia is so dangerous
Thomas Frank

Donald Trump’s campaign to “Make America Great Again” is one big, flatulent exercise in delusional nostalgia, as so many have noted. Given the likely outcome of the American presidential contest, however, it is Hillary Clinton’s delusional nostalgia that may ultimately prove more harmful for the country.

Campaigning in Kentucky recently, she promised that, should she be elected, she would task former president Bill Clinton with “revitalizing the economy, because he knows how to do it”. A few minutes before, she had recited her husband’s qualifications for this job: “In the 90s, everybody’s income went up, not just people at the top. We lifted more people out of poverty than at any time in our recent history.” And so on.

Bill Clinton took some time out to dynamite the federal welfare system, then he came back and deregulated the banks

Ah, the 90s. It seems that Hillary, too, longs to make America great again, and she reminded the audience in Kentucky of the specific elements of our lost golden age. First among those gauzy memories: “A budget that is balanced and in surplus” – like the budget Bill Clinton built in the good old days before the spendthrift George W Bush administration came in. There were other ways in which the GOP had diverged from Clinton orthodoxy as well, like their desire to “Cut taxes on the wealthy [and] get out of the way of regulation of all kinds,” sins that, Hillary said, contributed directly to the financial crisis of 2008.

Who advocated to eliminate Glass-Segal again? Yea we need that again.

 

[JackLuis]

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[CNYCarol]

Commie Cunt....

 

[JackLuis]

Not with her: Why these millennial women don’t trust Hillary Clinton

Anoa Changa is a feminist who isn’t going to vote for Hillary Clinton. Last June, when the 34-year-old Atlanta-based attorney began volunteering with the grassroots organization Women for Bernie Sanders , she received immediate pushback from other women. Over social media, they accused her and other Sanders volunteers of betraying their gender, and of being fake feminists. Even former professors and friends questioned how she could support the Vermont senator over the secretary of state.

“Some woman I encounter act as if I’ve betrayed some kind of secret society,” says Changa. “I reject this brand of feminism. I’m not only voting for my gender, I’m voting for other issues.”

For the first time in its history, America is close to electing a female president, yet many women from across the political spectrum don’t like Clinton.

It’s true that, as a whole, women support her more than both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, but that support is not nearly as overwhelming as black voter support was for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012. Millennial women, for example, prefer Sanders to Clinton and 49% of American women give the secretary of state an unfavorable rating.

For Changa, that sort of logic is a slippery slope: “We can’t have this false narrative that women can’t be bad,” she says. “Women can be as good as men but also as bad as men in terms of leadership.”

 

[KingOrfeo]

Hilary, the woman's choice....

Snopes call bullshit on that.

 

[JackLuis]

Clinton, Trump and Sanders Polls.


Hillary and Trump tied but Sanders leads Trump by 15%!