Hillary, Progressive or....?

[BotanyBoy]

Once again, you don't know me and haven't read my posts.

I do read what you post and unless you've been totally dishonest I do know you through your posts.

You're a big Clinton fan are you not?

You're being a dick. That's a specialty of yours.

FYP.....it was an A but I decided to make it an A+ for you.

 

[Porkwarrior]

Haven't read the whole th'd, but any mention of the Rose Law Firm or "Arkancide"?


IMHO a Hillary nomination means Trump as POTUS.
I'm not sure which one truly frightens me more.

 

[JackLuis]

Clinton defends Southern success

Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton responded Sunday to Bernie Sanders' claim that Clinton's primary success is based on voters in Repubican-leaning Sourthern states, which the Democrats will not carry in November.

Critics called Sanders' remarks dismissive of African-Americans, whose strong support have formed the core of Clinton's support in the South, accounting for her large margins there.

"I don't know what he was talking about. Because, the last time I looked at a map of the United States, the South was a part of our country just like every other region," Clinton said on ABC's "This Week."

Clinton declined to repeat charges by her surrogates that Sanders' statement was racially insensitive, though she noted that because Democrats in Southern states have little impact in presidential elections, their primary votes are particularly important.

Next week in New York, we could see her vote lead diminished by a Brooklyn Boy drawing a lot more votes. Unless there is a ~50% turnout.

 

[JackLuis]

Panama Papers include connections to Clintons

WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton recently blasted the hidden financial dealings exposed in the Panama Papers, but she and her husband have multiple connections with people who have used the law firm Mossack Fonseca to establish offshore companies.

Among them are Gabrielle Fialkoff, finance director for Hillary Clinton's first campaign for the U.S. Senate; Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining magnate who has traveled the world with Bill Clinton; the Chagoury family, which pledged $1 billion to the Clinton Global Initiative; and Chinese billionaire Ng Lap Seng, who was at the center of a Democratic fundraising scandal when Bill Clinton was president. Also using the Panamanian law firm was the company founded by the late billionaire investor Marc Rich, who was an international fugitive when Bill Clinton pardoned him in the final hours of his presidency.

The ties are both recent and decades old, not surprising for the Democratic presidential front-runner and her husband, who have been in public life since the 1970s.

Sanders said Clinton's support of a free-trade agreement between the U.S. and Panama — one that he claims has allowed the wealthy to avoid paying taxes — should disqualify her from being the Democratic nominee.

In 2011, Sanders predicted in a Senate speech that the Panama trade deal would make it easier for the wealthy to hide their cash in Panama.

"I wish I had been proven wrong about this, but it has now come to light that the extent of Panama's tax avoidance scams is even worse than I had feared," he said in a statement this month.

Hillary Clinton opposed the deal in 2008 when she was running for president. But later, as secretary of state, she helped push the agreement through Congress. Her supporters, however, say the trade deal did not open the door to additional tax evasion.

 

[Hypoxia]

Haven't read the whole th'd, but any mention of the Rose Law Firm or "Arkancide"?

GOPs have spent HUNDREDS OF FUCKING MILLIONS OF FUCKING USA TAXPAYER BUCKS investigating the Clintons and have come up with zip except Billy's cigar and BJs. Time to give it up.

IMHO a Hillary nomination means Trump as POTUS.
I'm not sure which one truly frightens me more.

Tromp's unfavorables are still much higher than Hillary's, and Crude is in Tromp's neighborhood IIRC. As things stand now, Hillary or Sanders would beat either. Kasich *might* be able to beat Hillary -- but he won't be nominated so he won't have the chance to try. The GOP really have shit themselves into a corner.

Dem (super)delegates will closely watch the upcoming big-state primaries and Bernie's vote counts. Then they get to decide which is more important for their careers: popular votes or donor-class money? They'll probably take the money and nominate DINO Hillary. Unless she's indicted first. Most unlikely, but who knows?

 

[PoisonedChalice]

Hillary is a whore for Wall Street. Always was, always will be.

Trump or turmoil: the choice is yours.

 

[1sickbastard]

Kasich *might* be able to beat Hillary -- but he won't be nominated so he won't have the chance to try. The GOP really have shit themselves into a corner.

Actually, as long as Kasich stays on the campaign trail, he might have a shot should the GOP have to broker their nominee during the national convention, which is seeming increasingly likely.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary is not a Progressive she's a Neo-Liberal.

Neoliberalism: The Ideology at the Root of All Our Problems

Imagine if the people of the Soviet Union had never heard of communism. The ideology that dominates our lives has, for most of us, no name. Mention it in conversation and you'll be rewarded with a shrug. Even if your listeners have heard the term before, they will struggle to define it. Neoliberalism: do you know what it is?

Its anonymity is both a symptom and cause of its power. It has played a major role in a remarkable variety of crises: the financial meltdown of 2007‑8, the offshoring of wealth and power, of which the Panama Papers offer us merely a glimpse, the slow collapse of public health and education, resurgent child poverty, the epidemic of loneliness, the collapse of ecosystems, the rise of Donald Trump. But we respond to these crises as if they emerge in isolation, apparently unaware that they have all been either catalysed or exacerbated by the same coherent philosophy; a philosophy that has -- or had -- a name. What greater power can there be than to operate namelessly?

Perhaps the most dangerous impact of neoliberalism is not the economic crises it has caused, but the political crisis. As the domain of the state is reduced, our ability to change the course of our lives through voting also contracts. Instead, neoliberal theory asserts, people can exercise choice through spending. But some have more to spend than others: in the great consumer or shareholder democracy, votes are not equally distributed. The result is a disempowerment of the poor and middle. As parties of the right and former left adopt similar neoliberal policies, disempowerment turns to disenfranchisement. Large numbers of people have been shed from politics.

 

[Real_American17]

Old news and same old Gowdy/GOP dipshittery.

Trey didn't do that.

 

[JackLuis]

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[JackLuis]

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[BotanyBoy]

More than any of it I think CNN/MSN/FOX all beating the "Hillary is INEVITABLE!!! She's already won!" drum for the past year and not covering Sanders beyond the debates was the most damaging.

The super delegates didn't even get a chance to hose him, that would have been a much better way to get torn down.

 

[SexyAlison]

I'm voting with my vagina

 

[SexyAlison]

Sanders: never held a job in his first forty years of life, never worked in the private sector, did very little as a senator; he renamed a couple of post offices and that's it. He wrote a rape essay, praises Fidel Castro, the Soviet Union, thinks food lines are a good idea, wants to make an inefficient government even bigger, and people think he is fit to be president? Lmao.

"But muh free handouts"

 

[mikey2much]

you mean that how you pull the lever

I'm voting with my vagina

Seems like that would hurt.

 

[sr71plt]

More than any of it I think CNN/MSN/FOX all beating the "Hillary is INEVITABLE!!! She's already won!" drum for the past year and not covering Sanders beyond the debates was the most damaging.

The super delegates didn't even get a chance to hose him, that would have been a much better way to get torn down.

I don't believe you've even watched CNN. They very rarely have said that Hillary is inevitable. They've continually given air time to commentators saying it isn't inevitable. If they are now getting around to saying that, it's because, even though you don't like it and won't see it, it's getting to be pretty inevitable.

I don't know about MSN and FOX. I don't watch them. I suspect you don't either, which doesn't stop you from pulling stuff out of your ass on what they have to say.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't believe you've even watched CNN. They very rarely have said that Hillary is inevitable. They've continually given air time to commentators saying it isn't inevitable.

LOL yea Clinton News Network, one of her largest contributors hasn't been her cheerleader at all

If they are now getting around to saying that, it's because, even though you don't like it and won't see it, it's getting to be pretty inevitable.

Oh I see it and I no longer care, now I don't have to waste any time voting.

I don't know about MSN and FOX.

Oh a corporate goon/warhawk like yerself? Common.....who you lying to me or you?

 

[JackLuis]

Clinton fundraising leaves little for state parties

In the days before Hillary Clinton launched an unprecedented big-money fundraising vehicle with state parties last summer, she vowed “to rebuild our party from the ground up,” proclaiming “when our state parties are strong, we win. That’s what will happen."

But less than 1 percent of the $61 million raised by that effort has stayed in the state parties’ coffers, according to a POLITICO analysis of the latest Federal Election Commission filings.

The venture, the Hillary Victory Fund, is a so-called joint fundraising committee comprised of Clinton’s presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and 32 state party committees. The setup allows Clinton to solicit checks of $350,000 or more from her super-rich supporters at extravagant fundraisers including a dinner at George Clooney’s house and a concert at Radio City Music Hall featuring Katy Perry and Elton John.

The victory fund has transferred $3.8 million to the state parties, but almost all of that cash ($3.3 million, or 88 percent) was quickly transferred to the DNC, usually within a day or two, by the Clinton staffer who controls the committee, POLITICO’s analysis of the FEC records found.

So Hillary is taking in laundry to support herself?

Sanders' campaign late last year signed a joint fundraising agreement with the DNC, but the committee has been largely inactive. Instead, after Sanders was chided by Clinton allies for not helping down-ballot Democrats, he sent out appeals to his vaunted email list that helped raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for a trio of progressive House candidates, who got to keep all the cash.

The Hillary Victory Fund, by contrast, allows the Clinton campaign to maintain tight control over the cash it raises and spends. The fund represents by far the most ambitious use to date of a joint fundraising committee — and arguably one of the most ambitious hard-dollar fundraising efforts in modern presidential politics. Until 2014, the most an individual could have given to such a committee was $123,200. But in April of that year, the Supreme Court, in a case called McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission, struck down aggregate limits on total giving to federal campaigns, allowing maximum donations to as many different committees as a donor wanted.

Yes Pilot, Hillz is skimming the cash that is meant for the down ticket candidates.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm using it for an around-the-world cruise. Bernie's going along. He says he thinks there are some more post offices to name out there.

Wonder how much she's raised for state campaigns in the last eight years compared to how much Bernie, the "Democrat for ten minutes," raised.

But, yes, if she's been caught at it, burn the bitch. Doesn't mean she wouldn't be a bitchin president, though.

 

[JackLuis]

How Hillary Could Win the Election—and Lose the Country

Hillary Clinton’s all-but-insurmountable delegate lead in the Democratic race, and her strong numbers against any probable Republican opponent in the fall, now pose a paradox: She might win the presidency but lose the country.

The reason is that Clinton lacks a big, new animating idea in a year when voters in both parties are so discontented they have embraced some pretty bad ones. Like them or loathe them, Donald Trump's and Bernie Sanders’ messages are crystal clear and call for dramatic change, while Clinton’s remains spread softly all over the map. And her agenda promises less change than continuation—of the centrist Democratic Party policies that her husband pursued and which Barack Obama has largely followed. It’s no surprise that one of Clinton’s biggest campaign themes is to praise both her predecessor Democratic presidents—the one she married and the one she went to work for—effusively.

True, she has the worst unfavorable ratings of any would-be Democratic nominee in modern times, hovering steadily around 55 percent. But Ted Cruz’s are just as bad—and Trump’s 10 or 15 percentage points worse. True, she has blown through millions of dollars and uncounted hours fending off Sanders’ primary challenge in states that she should have been able to ignore, so safe would they normally be for a Democrat in November. But she’ll still be able to count on the core support of Democratic donors and activists determined to hold on to the White House at almost any price.

Lake says she believes Clinton resists pat answers both because she’s wary of making false promises, and also because she “has a mixed economic view—she doesn’t see things in black and white.”

She thinks in shades of Green, long green pastures seeded with foundation money from Wall Street.

 

[sr71plt]

She'll be the best president of what was running for the office.

If folks want better candidates, they'll have to stop tearing them and the government apart so that they will want to run. It's a disgrace just on this forum the names you people call them. Why should the really good ones subject themselves and their families to that sort of crap?

 

[AlwaysHungry]

And her agenda promises less change than continuation—of the centrist Democratic Party policies that her husband pursued and which Barack Obama has largely followed.

I think this is a false assessment. I think that Hillary has moved far to the right of her husband, as part of a Faustian bargain to get the Secretary of State post and the implicit guarantee of a presidency down the road. A more accurate description would be "her agenda promises less change than continuation—of the aggressively neo-con foreign policies that George W Bush and Dick Cheney pursued, and which Barack Obama has followed and amplified."

 

[sr71plt]

As oppressed to lunacy from Trump or Cruz or a glassy stare from Sanders? Not much of a choice there.

 

[BotanyBoy]

As oppressed to lunacy from Trump or Cruz or a glassy stare from Sanders? Not much of a choice there.

You're right....the plutocracy is the best option, America doesn't deserve any better.

 

[LadyVer]

Hillary may have been progressive 40 years ago. duh.