Hey Atheist

The OP's question was not serious, nor would an accolmpanying thought, 'belief is a win, win, so why not?'

Both thoughts would be wrong and are dangerous.

Warning: serious commentary about to be offered...that might scare the fecal matter and lube right out of you, so keep the women and the kiddies away.

Therer is no God.

Humans learn about existence, our world, our universe, in one way and one way only.

Wehn a new particle zips through a chamber in a billionth of a second from some accelerometer in Lucerne, Switzerland, we know of its existence by the trail it leaves thorugh a purposely manufactured atmosphere with very high speed camera and timing by an atomic clock.

Knowledge is acquired when the human mind perceives evidence that something, somewhere is happening.

There is no evidence to support the existence of any supernatural being from gods, to devils and demons, fairies, nymphs, satyrs, boogie men, santa claus or the easter bunny.

Sorry folks...thas life. Well, grown up, mature life.

That is the easy part, the non scary part, the part that even a semi rational teen aged person, well, male person, could, with some modest effort, understand.

For all the retarded thinkers here, merc, babyshit, et al, who insist they must pu t their hands in poo, smell it and taste it before they will admit it exists; this is just an exercise in futility for you. But, just for the hell of it, see if you can follow along.

As the OP stated, what if you are an atheist or an agnostic and your are wrong?

Even to ask that question implies psychological harm to an individuals thinking process as it introduces fear into the equation concerning acquiring knowledge.

Like the Astronomer burned at the stake by the Catholics because he dared think outside the jesus box. Now he had reason t o experience fear as he thought his heretical thoughts...you do not.

There is no god, you should have no fear of the consequences of learning that fact.

Secondly, and more importantly, for those who are true believers and the agnostics among you, or the 'win/win' bet, nothing to lose if you believe...well, this is where I come into the picture.

I postulated at the beginning, that the human mind acquires knowledge in only one way. This statement is fact, not because I type it, but as a result of centuries of research by the best minds in science who 'learned' how the human brain, the mind functions.

Through our senses, there are only five, we perceive aspects of reality and begin the thought process of cataloging and collating and combining those percentions into groups of thought, called conccepts, and the mind thus begins to acquire an understanding of the reality surrounding him.

It is especially important to know that one cannot offer the mind a contradiction, such as a thing is and is not at the same time. The mind will rebel and place the contradiction over in a dark corner to be dealt with at another time.

This is where the danger lies, waiting to turn your contradictions into disabilities, mental illness, if you persist in trying to force the mind to accept contradictions. Such as those between faith and knowledge, you know, and like Hal 9000, it drove him crazy.

There are a ton of contradictions you folks express here, you would never kill a human child, yet you approve of others doing so as a legitimate 'choice'. There is never a choice to kill an innocent human being and even guilty ones, only through due process.

In your subjective and relativistic life where everything is fluid and nothing remains stable or universal, you are constantly faced with numerous contradictions as your senses observe the continual continuity and congruity of nature and the reality you ignore.

That is why you wake up screaming at night, pop the pills and swill the booze, to escape the hell yoi have created in your own mind.

Lastly, to believe in a power greater than yourself, is to sacrifice your individual existence and independence to the whims of those who claim to have access to this god or his rules and regulations, by which you must live to attain immortality.
actually does its work, it destroys you, you are reborn as part of the pack and may never find yourself ever again.

I quote no one, I researched nothing, these are my thoughts that arose as I became a man and now an old man.

Told you, some serious poo was coming...

:)

Amicus
 
The cat I have only likes it when it's warm. I do at least two loads at a time and while the first load is on the floor waiting for the second to fill the basket, she pees in it.

She also pees on computer chairs, so she knows exactly what she's doing.

BIIIIITCH!

My cat never did that but she did punish bad humans. Pissed on my brother's bean bag chair, twice. Once while he was in it. She'd shit in his bathroom and fold the bathmat over the crap as well. He didn't pet her, he didn't let her sleep in his bed. I on the other hand would let her have the last of my sweet sweet cereal milk and the worst things she'd do to me was pee in my shower, but I do too and it was easy enough to rinse away. She always brought me the best gifts she could catch, thought not always as dead as I would have liked.
 
My cat never did that but she did punish bad humans. Pissed on my brother's bean bag chair, twice. Once while he was in it. She'd shit in his bathroom and fold the bathmat over the crap as well. He didn't pet her, he didn't let her sleep in his bed. I on the other hand would let her have the last of my sweet sweet cereal milk and the worst things she'd do to me was pee in my shower, but I do too and it was easy enough to rinse away. She always brought me the best gifts she could catch, thought not always as dead as I would have liked.

We have another kitty who is adorable and sweet and just terrified of everything, but tries to talk. You can have conversations with him.

Today was the first day of school and four minutes after my boy had left for school the little kitty spent the day yowling his head off, essentially accusing me of murder and asking me where I'd buried him.

Now we do this for a year. The end of summer is tough on the little guy. Not my son, who had a great day, but the cat.
 
My cat wasn't clear on how cats aren't dogs. She came when you called, if someone knocked on the door or rang the door bell she was right there to see who was coming into her house. If you sat down in my house your lap was where she'd be and you'd better be petting her. She would knock phones and controllers out of your hand because hands are for petting kittehs.
 
BTW, I don't care if people want to believe in anything.

If it makes them feel better, oh well.

Just don't go around threatening others with vague "consequences" for their failure to subscribe to your brand of brainwashing.
 
The OP's question was not serious, nor would an accolmpanying thought, 'belief is a win, win, so why not?'

Both thoughts would be wrong and are dangerous.

Warning: serious commentary about to be offered...that might scare the fecal matter and lube right out of you, so keep the women and the kiddies away.

Therer is no God.

Humans learn about existence, our world, our universe, in one way and one way only.

Wehn a new particle zips through a chamber in a billionth of a second from some accelerometer in Lucerne, Switzerland, we know of its existence by the trail it leaves thorugh a purposely manufactured atmosphere with very high speed camera and timing by an atomic clock.

Knowledge is acquired when the human mind perceives evidence that something, somewhere is happening.

There is no evidence to support the existence of any supernatural being from gods, to devils and demons, fairies, nymphs, satyrs, boogie men, santa claus or the easter bunny.

Sorry folks...thas life. Well, grown up, mature life.

That is the easy part, the non scary part, the part that even a semi rational teen aged person, well, male person, could, with some modest effort, understand.

For all the retarded thinkers here, merc, babyshit, et al, who insist they must pu t their hands in poo, smell it and taste it before they will admit it exists; this is just an exercise in futility for you. But, just for the hell of it, see if you can follow along.

As the OP stated, what if you are an atheist or an agnostic and your are wrong?

Even to ask that question implies psychological harm to an individuals thinking process as it introduces fear into the equation concerning acquiring knowledge.

Like the Astronomer burned at the stake by the Catholics because he dared think outside the jesus box. Now he had reason t o experience fear as he thought his heretical thoughts...you do not.

There is no god, you should have no fear of the consequences of learning that fact.

Secondly, and more importantly, for those who are true believers and the agnostics among you, or the 'win/win' bet, nothing to lose if you believe...well, this is where I come into the picture.

I postulated at the beginning, that the human mind acquires knowledge in only one way. This statement is fact, not because I type it, but as a result of centuries of research by the best minds in science who 'learned' how the human brain, the mind functions.

Through our senses, there are only five, we perceive aspects of reality and begin the thought process of cataloging and collating and combining those percentions into groups of thought, called conccepts, and the mind thus begins to acquire an understanding of the reality surrounding him.

It is especially important to know that one cannot offer the mind a contradiction, such as a thing is and is not at the same time. The mind will rebel and place the contradiction over in a dark corner to be dealt with at another time.

This is where the danger lies, waiting to turn your contradictions into disabilities, mental illness, if you persist in trying to force the mind to accept contradictions. Such as those between faith and knowledge, you know, and like Hal 9000, it drove him crazy.

There are a ton of contradictions you folks express here, you would never kill a human child, yet you approve of others doing so as a legitimate 'choice'. There is never a choice to kill an innocent human being and even guilty ones, only through due process.

In your subjective and relativistic life where everything is fluid and nothing remains stable or universal, you are constantly faced with numerous contradictions as your senses observe the continual continuity and congruity of nature and the reality you ignore.

That is why you wake up screaming at night, pop the pills and swill the booze, to escape the hell yoi have created in your own mind.

Lastly, to believe in a power greater than yourself, is to sacrifice your individual existence and independence to the whims of those who claim to have access to this god or his rules and regulations, by which you must live to attain immortality.
actually does its work, it destroys you, you are reborn as part of the pack and may never find yourself ever again.

I quote no one, I researched nothing, these are my thoughts that arose as I became a man and now an old man.

Told you, some serious poo was coming...

:)

Amicus

For someone who essentially doesn't believe, you sure do use a lot of words to justify it!
 
What? No feline commentary, oh, yes, it was, as women are considered cats anyway, WTH?

amicus
 
BTW, I don't care if people want to believe in anything.

If it makes them feel better, oh well.

Just don't go around threatening others with vague "consequences" for their failure to subscribe to your brand of brainwashing.

~~~

The threats are not vague, you little shit , they are real and explcit: you fuck with me or my loved ones, you die. Clear enough?

I understand little communal rats like you gangraped those drugged little hippy girls because it was share and share alike and she was taken for the greater goold of the community.

You need not subscribe to anything, juist violate the individual rights of any other person and you are dead meat in my world. It is called, Law, self evident rights to life, liberty and property and it is no 'brand' of anything, it is truth.

You pissed me off.

Amicus
 
What if you're wrong?

Are you truly prepared to pay the price?

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Comshaw
 
i believe in a creator, but i don't think the creator gives two shits if you believe in him/her.
 
What if you're wrong?

Are you truly prepared to pay the price?

I have a Lutheran friend. She's very devout.

She can't stand people like this. The "If I'm wrong, no harm done. But, if you're wrong, you're going to Hell" type. People who view religion first and foremost as an insurance policy. People who are religious because they're too chickenshit to be otherwise.

They do a disservice to real people of faith. Not all God-fearing people are this weak. :cool:
 
What price?

No heaven, no hell so what are you going to pay?

When you are dead you are dead, end of story.

What you have now is all you got so make the best of it and do your best to make it a better world for yourself and others.
 
~~~

The threats are not vague, you little shit , they are real and explcit: you fuck with me or my loved ones, you die. Clear enough?

I understand little communal rats like you gangraped those drugged little hippy girls because it was share and share alike and she was taken for the greater goold of the community.

You need not subscribe to anything, juist violate the individual rights of any other person and you are dead meat in my world. It is called, Law, self evident rights to life, liberty and property and it is no 'brand' of anything, it is truth.

You pissed me off.

Amicus

You're one weird old bastard.

Anyway, the threats I was referring to, which I thought I was clear enough on, were the perceived threats of going to hell for disbelief in god.

You know, the guy with the horns and cloven feet?

As for gang rape, gross. I prefer the old fashioned way, afew drinks and making women laugh their panties off. Something I feel is a distant , dusty old memory for you.

But as for you personally, I honestly couldn't give two shits or a squirt of piss.

I don't believe in divine retribution, but in your case karma certainly applies. No one could do anything worse to you than you have already done to yourself.
 
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