Here's something for the LW crowd and....

lovecraft68

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Anyone trying to figure out the cuck fetish/mentality in general. Someone sent me this link and I guess if you're into it you get it. If not...well its about the best explanation I've seen...and in fun cartoon form like when we were kids.

http://www.ohjoysextoy.com/cuckolding/

Note to the Mod. This thing looks like a kick starter of some sort, but its not mine and I'm not soliciting anything or asking anyone to do the same. Just thought it was relevant to those writing in the cuck fetish.
 
Erika Moen is amazing. I've been reading her webcomic, Oh joy, sex toy!, for years and it has some really great insight (if generally, surface level) into sex education and kink. Plus, some really good recommendations on sex toys. The webcomic itself isn't a Kickstarter; they just run one about once a year for folks who want a hard copy of the latest volume. If you liked this webcomic, I highly recommend checking out the backlog. They even do guest artist comics on a regular basis.
 
More thought about this than I probably needed.

I found myself reading several LW stories a couple years back, because while I found I didn't like a lot of the elements, I couldn't wrap my head around the appeal. And the thing is, there WAS an appeal... but again and again, it wasn't with the defining traits of the genre.

The kink itself doesn't appeal to me. I'm super turned off by the humiliation stuff. I'm extra turned off by the frequent racial elements, because to me they often read as racist rather than "race-play" (as the Moen piece says). Additionally, I'm really not down with the rage and "bitch should die" vitriol that the category attracts. I'm a happy endings guy, so I hate reading about a doomed and/or emotionally abusive relationship, which so many of those stories are about. But something about it worked.

It only hit me recently: these stories typically include a strong focus on the woman's pleasure and sexual empowerment. It's usually described vividly. That's the thing I like about them. That's what I skip through to read, and why I'll put up with having so much to skip through the stuff that.

And to be really blunt, I have to wonder if that, too, is something that a lot of (cough cough male cough) readers get so upset about. Because even in racy stories, even in TV and film with lots of sexual content, the double standard continues. People get upset about a woman's enjoyment and ownership of her sexuality. [I would be VERY HAPPY to find more well-written stories with that focus that DON'T also involve anyone's humiliation.]

It's here in the Moen comic. The thing that has me a little critical of her comic is that the people presenting this explanation are a little too "in character," and they don't really talk about negotiating this out very much. They don't talk about safe words and such. And that's where I wonder if this doesn't still run the risk of giving the wrong impression of a complicated kink.
 
I found myself reading several LW stories a couple years back, because while I found I didn't like a lot of the elements, I couldn't wrap my head around the appeal. And the thing is, there WAS an appeal... but again and again, it wasn't with the defining traits of the genre.

The kink itself doesn't appeal to me. I'm super turned off by the humiliation stuff. I'm extra turned off by the frequent racial elements, because to me they often read as racist rather than "race-play" (as the Moen piece says). Additionally, I'm really not down with the rage and "bitch should die" vitriol that the category attracts. I'm a happy endings guy, so I hate reading about a doomed and/or emotionally abusive relationship, which so many of those stories are about. But something about it worked.

It only hit me recently: these stories typically include a strong focus on the woman's pleasure and sexual empowerment. It's usually described vividly. That's the thing I like about them. That's what I skip through to read, and why I'll put up with having so much to skip through the stuff that.

And to be really blunt, I have to wonder if that, too, is something that a lot of (cough cough male cough) readers get so upset about. Because even in racy stories, even in TV and film with lots of sexual content, the double standard continues. People get upset about a woman's enjoyment and ownership of her sexuality. [I would be VERY HAPPY to find more well-written stories with that focus that DON'T also involve anyone's humiliation.]

It's here in the Moen comic. The thing that has me a little critical of her comic is that the people presenting this explanation are a little too "in character," and they don't really talk about negotiating this out very much. They don't talk about safe words and such. And that's where I wonder if this doesn't still run the risk of giving the wrong impression of a complicated kink.

I agree with everything you said-especially the disgusting racism of it- and for the people who get upset about women's empowerment? They have nothing to worry about. I'm sure there will be an executive order passed shortly that will forbid women from taking pleasure in sex.
 
lovecraft68 said:
I'm sure there will be an executive order passed shortly that will forbid women from taking pleasure in sex.

I swear to god, I will never, ever again fuck a Republican; not even joking.

wastelandwriter said:
The thing that has me a little critical of her comic is that the people presenting this explanation are a little too "in character," and they don't really talk about negotiating this out very much. They don't talk about safe words and such. And that's where I wonder if this doesn't still run the risk of giving the wrong impression of a complicated kink.

Yeah, like I said, her stuff tends to be very surface level. I like to think of her comic as basic sex-ed, which focuses more on introducing topics and removing any associated stigma than anything else. If you're interested in more in-depth overviews of this kind of stuff, I recommend The Ethical Slut by Dossie Easton and Enough to Make You Blush by Kali. Really good stuff, overall.
 
What a very useful reference point for those of us who are ignorant about certain . . matters.
 
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