Here we go..........again.

[Ishmael]

WHO, in a secret session, has approved the proposal for a global excise tax on tobacco.

Global Tobacco Tax.


For decades now the UN has been trying to impose some sort of global tax so as to move towards financial self-sufficiency rather than be dependent on annual dues paid by the member nations. This is but another attempt to get the Camel's nose under the tent.

Regardless of how you may feel about taxing tobacco, do you really think that it's a good idea to allow an organization that has NO accountability to impose a tax of any sort on the global community.

And once the precedent is set, where does it stop? A tax on sugar (obesity)? A tax on fossil fuels (AGW)? There would be no end to the mischief the unelected, unaccountable, organization would involve itself with.

Ishmael

 

[about_average]

You don't read so well do you?
It's not a global tax. Member countries voted to maybe increase tobacco taxes in member countries.

Without prejudice to the sovereign right of the Parties to determine and establish their taxation policies, each Party should take account of its national health objectives concerning tobacco control and adopt or maintain, as appropriate, measures which may include:
(a) implementing tax policies and, where appropriate, price policies, on tobacco products so as to contribute to the health objectives aimed at reducing tobacco consumption; and (b) prohibiting or restricting, as appropriate, sales to and/or importations by international travellers of tax-and duty-free tobacco products.

WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (supposedly cited in your link)
http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publications/2003/9241591013.pdf

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I think someone has missed the point about the camel's nose.

 

[Busybody]

You don't read so well do you?
It's not a global tax. Member countries voted to maybe increase tobacco taxes in member countries.

WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (supposedly cited in your link)
http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publications/2003/9241591013.pdf

why don't you push the red button

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1096019

 

[Ishmael]

I think someone has missed the point about the camel's nose.

Pretty much.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Clearly, they just want to establish that they have a right to do it and the language can then be changed at a later date and be "deemed" to have the full effect and force of treaty. In this way, the Liberals can bypass our Senate.

 

[Ishmael]

Clearly, they just want to establish that they have a right to do it and the language can then be changed at a later date and be "deemed" to have the full effect and force of treaty. In this way, the Liberals can bypass our Senate.

That's the plan Stan. And the 'plan' totally ignores the fact that the member nations can apply their own excise tax at anytime they want without the approval, or revenue sharing required, of the UN proposal. Not to mention the fact that once the Camel's nose is under the tent all sorts of mischief can be wrought regarding existing trade agreements.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I still think my plan for the UN is the best one...

 

[about_average]

I think someone has missed the point about the camel's nose.

And I know of at least two people who've posted in this thread who can't read.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And I know of at least two people who've posted in this thread who can't read.

I read your post. And you are right as per the black and white and if it were just that then there would have been no reason for this thread.

What we are asking you to do is to push your knee back down and comprehend the implication in what you are reading.

~as an aside~

You're going on and on in one thread about a fucking comma for Pete's sake, popped off in another thread about a cite proving at once that you did not even read past the word WMD and now you are trying to disprove a point not even in contention. I hate to be so confrontational, but I am detecting a pattern.



For now, I shall blame it on coffee, because I want you to have the benefit of the doubt.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

PS - Do you know what my plan is to garner the UN the credibility that it so richly believes that it deserves?

 

[Busybody]

Below Average suffers from reading comprehension with no understanding comprehension

 

[miles]

They're already doing a fine job in the fight against Ebola.

What a useless bunch.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

They're already doing a fine job in the fight against Ebola.

What a useless bunch.

It is no more than a bureaucrat's wet dream both in intent and efficacy.

An institution where talk and intention far outweigh outcome or consequence.

 

[Ishmael]

I read your post. And you are right as per the black and white and if it were just that then there would have been no reason for this thread.

What we are asking you to do is to push your knee back down and comprehend the implication in what you are reading.

~as an aside~

You're going on and on in one thread about a fucking comma for Pete's sake, popped off in another thread about a cite proving at once that you did not even read past the word WMD and now you are trying to disprove a point not even in contention. I hate to be so confrontational, but I am detecting a pattern.



For now, I shall blame it on coffee, because I want you to have the benefit of the doubt.

And I actually addressed his point in a previous post. Maybe the point soared over his head.

Ishmael

 

[miles]

It is no more than a bureaucrat's wet dream both in intent and efficacy.

An institution where talk and intention far outweigh outcome or consequence.

You just described liberalism.

WHO has accomplished as little as the rest of the UN.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm not going to pile on or continue to flagellate a deceased equine.



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[4est_4est_Gump]

You just described liberalism.

WHO has accomplished as little as the rest of the UN.

Yes, especially in the Harvard faculty lounge sense...



... as adopted by all the leading Universities in California.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You guys need some better outrages.
Seriously. You're phoning it in again.

 

[about_average]

I read your post. And you are right as per the black and white and if it were just that then there would have been no reason for this thread.

I agree there's no reason for this thread since the headline of the article linked is a lie and the OP strong implication that they are imposing a global tax is a lie.

I also haven't found evidence about the claimed "revenue sharing".

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

As you state it, yes, it is a "lie."

As Ishmael and I have come to understand politics, the Left and the nature of bureaucracy unchecked and unchallenged, it is a tacit lie of omission, for it omits the ultimate intent of the UN and that is to be the governing body of a one-world government and therefore every activity that they engage in should be viewed with the utmost skepticism for there is no check or balance upon such an organization.

 

[about_average]

As Ishmael and I have come to understand politics, the Left and the nature of bureaucracy unchecked and unchallenged, it is a tacit lie of omission, for it omits the ultimate intent of the UN and that is to be the governing body of a one-world government and therefore every activity that they engage in should be viewed with the utmost skepticism for there is no check or balance upon such an organization.

Using something that is patently false as the example for an argument does no justice for the argument.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Article 22

e) promote and facilitate the mobilization of financial resources for the
implementation of the Convention in accordance with Article 26;
(f) establish such subsidiary bodies as are necessary to achieve the objective of the
Convention;




23
Article 26
Financial resources
1. The Parties recognize the important role that financial resources play in achieving the
objective of this Convention.
2. Each Party shall provide financial support in respect of its national activities intended to
achieve the objective of the Convention, in accordance with its national plans, priorities and
programmes.
3. Parties shall promote, as appropriate, the utilization of bilateral, regional, subregional
and other multilateral channels to provide funding for the development and strengthening of
WHO Framework Convention on Tobacco Control


multisectoral comprehensive tobacco control programmes of developing country Parties and
Parties with economies in transition. Accordingly, economically viable alternatives to tobacco
production, including crop diversification should be addressed and supported in the context of
nationally developed strategies of sustainable development.
4. Parties represented in relevant regional and international intergovernmental
organizations, and financial and development institutions shall encourage these entities to
provide financial assistance for developing country Parties and for Parties with economies in
transition to assist them in meeting their obligations under the Convention, without limiting the
rights of participation within these organizations.


See, at first, it is voluntary.

Our alarm is that agents without and within will immediately begin working towards making it mandatory now that marching orders have been issued on the war of tobacco...

 

[KingOrfeo]

Not accountable? The UN is accountable to its member states who vote in the GA.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I agree there's no reason for this thread since the headline of the article linked is a lie and the OP strong implication that they are imposing a global tax is a lie.

I also haven't found evidence about the claimed "revenue sharing".

Evidence is not needed when you are a TrueBeliever.